Class Balance
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Top end I think is ok as it still holds that random factor. Just like rage and the lower level UltimaEnhancer but boosting MIN mc by 24? is a shocking idea that somehow got through the dev team all them years ago and has just been mimiced since.
When a BAD FF is 250 damage you know something is wrong.
compared to a sin/war's BAD hit of 12....
No, I was comparing all end game kits, average ff I hit is around 250 and that's with 1 of the best mc kits in game,
not every1 is p2w I no a few nice kits that have been made without any money being spent it jus takes time,
If mc was that easy why hadn't every1 got mc80+ kits?
if you nerf wizz going by the few end wizzies that smash it, what happens to all the averagely kitted wizzies? They will quit lol
lighting needs a big boost, in my max kit I hit 240 max ish, concidering it's a hard skill to hit imo should be 300+
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Level52 can't be got to overnight either, what is there 4 lvl52's? Says a lot.....
not every1 is p2w I no a few nice kits that have been made without any money being spent it jus takes time,
If mc was that easy why hadn't every1 got mc80+ kits?
if you nerf wizz going by the few end wizzies that smash it, what happens to all the averagely kitted wizzies? They will quit lol
lighting needs a big boost, in my max kit I hit 240 max ish, concidering it's a hard skill to hit imo should be 300+
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Level52 can't be got to overnight either, what is there 4 lvl52's? Says a lot.....
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We are talking long term balance, there will be more 52's, soon enough 52 will be the average level, especially with more content coming.
You might see this as an attack against you because you are one of those people that has leveld fast and im grateful to you for doing that, you are highlighting exactly what is broken.
You highlighted blizzard and it got fixed, you enjoyed it being overpowered, of course you did and thought you "deserved" it to be over powered but face facts.
You are the balance guinea pigs, that is the choice you took by leveling fast and pumping cash into kit.
The benefits you get is that you can go around destroying things for awhile with overpowered spells but please stop crying when they get fixed and by fixed I mean balanced.
ATM people are in 2 minds about running up and chopping into a wizz, when they are nerfed, people like depress with his 400's fs or toriblack with his crazy dps and kenpatchi with his luck6 will jus run up to a wizz and drop with no problem or no 2nd thoughts about dieing
when/if this happens a lot of wizzies will disappear
how about when fighting some1 with magic booster be smart and avoid getting close while the eye is up, then soon as it's down start going for it? Hmmm....
when/if this happens a lot of wizzies will disappear
how about when fighting some1 with magic booster be smart and avoid getting close while the eye is up, then soon as it's down start going for it? Hmmm....
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same can be said that if you end up against a damage dealing warrior stay away from them? hmmmmm
a warrior should always drop a wizard. You are an AOE leveling class not a Tank DPS PVP master.
Yeah ovs I dnt run up to no4 and stand next to him that's silly id die in 2secs....
Els wizz shouldn't die against a warr 1v1 unless you get trapped in mobs or lag... Mirror master target, ice storm + fw, hmmmmm
Els wizz shouldn't die against a warr 1v1 unless you get trapped in mobs or lag... Mirror master target, ice storm + fw, hmmmmm
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This is exactly how the wiz should be for pvp. but currently its not, its a case of bliz get in close, step FF, step FF step, pick up death drop.
People are just completely biased, who better to compare levels and kits than the players you mentioned. Scale down the levels and stats when comparing and class's are at an even footing at the moment.
Wizzys magic shield is no longer "base mc time calculated" you get 5/10 hits and its down, or goes down after so many seconds if not hit. Once you shield is down a level 46 wiz has 238HP. We all know thats a 2 hits from a war in an average kit. 2/4 hits from a sin dependant on kit (an averaged kit sin will also take 100+ damage with one HS) and one arrow barrage from a close archer.
If any class is overpowered its a warrior, out damage most sins and have a greater health pool....
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What wizards are out tanking a wars??
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Lol people are stupid tho imo, blizz hits for x3 on stAtionary targets and x5 on moving, yet I still see people trying to run through it and then cry it's op....
160x3 is 480, quite high damage yeah
160x5 is 800, ...... Just saying
160x3 is 480, quite high damage yeah
160x5 is 800, ...... Just saying
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It's not bad for a skill that was designed to be a team assist type spell and slow people down, rather than do damage. Met strike is the damage dealer.
480 can still 1 hit kill a lot of sins, taos, archers 40+
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TBH i think your average Wiz is perfectly fine, the high end wiz, well they spent the time levelling so deserve to be OP
i agree with Sam, no need to nerf, just add things that people can use to defend.
im 45, average kit, one hit by most Assassins and Wars at similar level. i dont complain i expect it.
Same as when IkirIA 1 hits me, i expect her to be able to.
quit whining and play the game?
i agree with Sam, no need to nerf, just add things that people can use to defend.
im 45, average kit, one hit by most Assassins and Wars at similar level. i dont complain i expect it.
Same as when IkirIA 1 hits me, i expect her to be able to.
quit whining and play the game?
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This is whats wrong with this..
They have leveld so should be OP? no other class is OP at 52....
think again clint.
Pvp no4 see how u get on.....? Even tho he sucks at pvp 
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Lol when me Varaka or likra get lvl2 met with 115+ mc .....,haha then I can understand the moans :O
cant say for sure cause I haven't got it but pretty sure it will be 200+ per hit easily maybe more!
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Lol when me Varaka or likra get lvl2 met with 115+ mc .....,haha then I can understand the moans :O
cant say for sure cause I haven't got it but pretty sure it will be 200+ per hit easily maybe more!
Depress with his shoulder dashing at 3 paces easily wipes me out in 1 fs even with shield up, yet ive had EW2 and Varaka FF'ing me (on separate occassions) and have still managed to get away. Of course they are strong, they have levelled loads and have uber kit, but I dont think they are OP relative to other classes at that level.
I agree with clintus and would add that an average kitted lv46 wiz like myself hits quite nicely PvE with FF, but really quite poorly in PVP (80-100). I usually end up using FD instead, as a least i might get a hit or two in before being floored. Havent even got blizz yet, but it is fairly easy to outrun this and met strike.
Instant killing level 45 sins archers and wiz if they happened to not have shield and a tao if they happened to be moving by using a ranged skill with no risk that also roots.......not OP at all....
no.4 has an infinitely more expensive kit and is still not guaranteed to kill a wiz(needs to catch the wiz first).
This doesn't even make sense as an argument......as mentioned earlier, high level wiz with a little bit of hp kit can tank the same things as a warrior....maybe even better....orc warlord for example.
When a wizard can 1 shot FF or 1 shot met strike or 1 shot bliz 3 other classes it is obviously a problem. Even if a sin or a War can 1 shot a class they have to at the very least be able to catch them. This is the same problem as arrow barrage 1 hitting people, but much worse because ab had a cool down. Maybe we should put a 30 sec cooldown on FF, Blizz and met strike.....(joking here but hopefully get the point)
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