So you are saying they tried to exploit but they couldn't because it was fixed so they shouldn't receive any punishment?
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I personally think that people "trying" to exploit do deserve a punishment providing they can 100% prove they were out to exploit.
but punishing people because you think they intended to exploit is a dangerous road to go down. This is not minority report.
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and you believe that people should be punished for failing to commit a crime?
I am happy to see wrong doing get a slap on the wrist but this is starting to sound more and more like we'll appease the howlers and just thow some kicks n punches at random.
Why not also just take 50% of current level from a randomly chosen 1 in 10 of every person ever that went past gatekeeper.
Take half the gold away from one in ten of everyone else because they were probably in a cave where something got exploited at some time on the server.
Why anyone takes the word of a proven scammer about what items were gained from exploiting makes no sense either.
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the intended victim usually in hospital as proof that something happened. This instance NOTHING HAPPEND
and people who happened to be in the same building arent punished.
On second thoughts this was more like an attemped smash n grab burglary foiled by the cleverness and vigilance of the heroic server staff.
so no crime was commited.
Well dome server staff.
The perps wouldnt be charged though would they?
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Wrong, harm being done as part of attempted murder would simply be a second charge of ABH/GBH
Maybe next time they will be part of the team that finds the exploit and with no slap on the wrists they will then exploit and say "it's my first time".
If they join a group with a few of the known exploiters and head to the same place that those known exploiters exploited I would assume they are goin to try and exploit the bug.
but as of previous bugs/exploits they should really be let off and told to do it more discreetly next time.
If they join a group with a few of the known exploiters and head to the same place that those known exploiters exploited I would assume they are goin to try and exploit the bug.
but as of previous bugs/exploits they should really be let off and told to do it more discreetly next time.
Server bosses **** going to **** server with silly inconsistent decisions. Only happened because they was **** and incompetent. David if you going to get involved on these subjects need to play bro.
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LOl so kickey was wrong and he liked the post telling him so. Attempted murder would be ABH/GBH instead and there would be visible evidence that something had happened.(the victim in hospital) There is no evidence that something happened for each of the alleged exploit benefiting players.
what i said was
this more like a case of a failed smash n grab. Our clever n vigilant staff foiled the bad guys. In that scenario it is unlikely that the perps would be charged or punished.
Did you read what I said before you quoted me?
LOl so kickey was wrong and he liked the post telling him so. Attempted murder would be ABH/GBH instead and there would be visible evidence that something had happened.(the victim in hospital) There is no evidence that something happened for each of the alleged exploit benefiting players.
what i said was
this more like a case of a failed smash n grab. Our clever n vigilant staff foiled the bad guys. In that scenario it is unlikely that the perps would be charged or punished.
Did you read what I said before you quoted me?
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Convoluted but I see what you mean.
Its right that people who benefited from an exploit should be punished. It's possibly even acceptable that you can give someone a warning for looking like they were going to be naughty and then being severe next time.
My objection is that those who say they did not do that and werent even there are punished on the word of someone who should have reported the thing in the first place. How trustable is anything from that source.
If there isnt a way to check who was there and who wasnt then how can they hand out punishments for something which is someone's word against someone elses. Stinky
Some1 more Stupid than i , Oh dear...
So... husband falls out with in-laws , leaves house in a mad rage and tells wife im gonna kill them , wife phones police , police arrive at in-laws house, man is on there door-step with a gun
I don't know if he would get charged with attempted murder because he never actually got to attempt the murder's , but he would be going to jail for sure.
In this instance the information about the bug was the gun & bullet's & hell cave f4 was the in-laws doorstep
. You get me bro ?
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Over Christmas i spent hours and lots of gamegold with lvling in BDD.
I attended a GK kill on the second day of the 'game mechanics' lvling, in which you had fixed, so I did approximately 2.5% exp at 47 I believe.
When logging out the other night I think I was on 47.30%
I have now been de-levelled to 46.38%.
I spent my hard earned cash and my christmas holiday period solo'ing in BDD, as many could vouch for (Eyedrops, iNoob & the TKO members that were constantly trying to PK in there).
I'm off anyways, but I'll be putting a paypal dispute in for the money wasted over Christmas on the corrupt server.
Adios, Mugen
I attended a GK kill on the second day of the 'game mechanics' lvling, in which you had fixed, so I did approximately 2.5% exp at 47 I believe.
When logging out the other night I think I was on 47.30%
I have now been de-levelled to 46.38%.
I spent my hard earned cash and my christmas holiday period solo'ing in BDD, as many could vouch for (Eyedrops, iNoob & the TKO members that were constantly trying to PK in there).
I'm off anyways, but I'll be putting a paypal dispute in for the money wasted over Christmas on the corrupt server.
Adios, Mugen
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so you lost around 100 mill exp mugen? 350 mill+ myself mate,seems they have taken 1 full lvl of each person no matter the lvl they are,i realistically made around 00.50% at a guess and they took 97% from me,bearing in mind that half a % was made within say 2 hours of killing hell mobs in a group.
if you decide youre leving thats another honest player gone sorry to hear this,make sure you claim youre donations back.
if you decide youre leving thats another honest player gone sorry to hear this,make sure you claim youre donations back.
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Doubt corrupt but inept hasty panicked and reacting to a bad situation without taking a step back for some careful thought.
They need a youth worker, teacher type person about who understands exactly how manipulative duplicitous and truth twisting that many people can be when backed into a corner.
This plus the the loud vocal outrage of those that see themselves as victims has brought about an untidy un reasoned over reaction to what is a rather minor incident.
The would be an independent enquiry in other scenarios.
Cant really happen here but looks like conclusions have been made from insuffiecient and unreliable information.
Ill informed decisions
They need a youth worker, teacher type person about who understands exactly how manipulative duplicitous and truth twisting that many people can be when backed into a corner.
This plus the the loud vocal outrage of those that see themselves as victims has brought about an untidy un reasoned over reaction to what is a rather minor incident.
The would be an independent enquiry in other scenarios.
Cant really happen here but looks like conclusions have been made from insuffiecient and unreliable information.
Ill informed decisions
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Its not 1 full level loose. Some people have lost 170%
Staff did say it was a half arsed attemp to punish because they didnt have the time...
Dont have the time to run a server and solve disputes but plenty of time to withdraw paypal fees and take holidays.
Staff did say it was a half arsed attemp to punish because they didnt have the time...
Dont have the time to run a server and solve disputes but plenty of time to withdraw paypal fees and take holidays.
You talk an awful lot about things you have no idea about. Everyone involved lost 1 level, no more no less. I mean the command literally is CHANGELEVEL - 1 and was tested before hand to ensure it didn't reset people to 0% of the previous level. If this happened to anyone we will look into it if they PM me here on LOMCN.
For the record I do believe the 24 involved knew what the hunt was for "Depress: I remember my first exploit" ring any bells for people? It'd be great if we could take peoples word that they didn't know but we can't. This is the action that was taken Razarus. You don't like it okay, quit or move on. We're not gonna continue to debate this with someone who will happily twist whatever is said to fit their own agenda.
For those of you who do feel unfairly punished PM me (I already have a few to go through and will) and we can attempt to work something out. We never claim to be perfect and we never claim our methods are perfect. We do the best with the time that we have. Exploiting bugs instead of reporting them just takes time away from more important things. Report them when you hear about them. Don't go on hunts with people that you know are going to exploit. Let us know so we can take action and everyone can have a fair and level playing field
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