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Wond

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Pebble said:
Doesn't mean you should download them ILLEGALLY. Just save up.


Please, just stfu. Don't make me remind you what forums you are on.
 

Elijah

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Err, we give guides how to edit LOM files, isnt that ilegal? pretty sure it is,

also we give cracks out for programs such as bde commander, (the mir db edditor, not sure if its bde commander or wot eva)

and im pretty sure we would give someone a serial code for adobe photoshop if someone couldnt find one.

Point Said.
 

Wond

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Pebble said:
Since when has it been illegal to download 1.4 files, 1.4 client and 1.5+ client?

Never, so no.

You obviously havn't used these forums for very long.
 

Pebble

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Actually I've been here longer than you.

And yes I don't care if Mir private servers are illegal. I actually encourage the playing of private Mir. But I'd rather buy something than download it, for the fact that I know it will / can be improved upon.

What I'm getting at is I'd never download a game or program that you can buy from a shop.
 

Wond

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Actually I've been here longer than you.

And yes I don't care if Mir private servers are illegal. I actually encourage the playing of private Mir. But I'd rather buy something than download it, for the fact that I know it will / can be improved upon.

What I'm getting at is I'd never download a game or program that you can buy from a shop.


So you would remember when LOMCN got threats from GN for the exact same reason your crying about ?

And if you would rather buy somthing then go buy it thats your choice. But this guy like alot of other people see it easier to simply click a download link than going to a shop and spending money that could be spent on somthing else that cant be got for free.
 

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¤]´)÷¤--§îr Äürøñ--¤÷(`[¤ said:
Sorry, but this thread is retarded.

You can't afford the £30 for the shiny new PC game? Go get a job.

You can counter all you like, your sorry ass won't be earning money playing that pirated game. This isn't the music industry, folks. The games industry isn't swimming in money.

Meh, people will never get it Auron. They'll only cry when people won't make games for them anymore. And as the connections get faster the development pot gets smaller. Then again, humans are pretty good at killing what they love.

Gooooo lazyness. Goooooo lawn your neighbours garden and earn some money, fatties.
 

Pebble

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Yes, but without customers for game companies, where the hell are they going to get money from?

Answer: They don't.



And without game companies, how many games are going to be made?

Answer: None.



And when no more games are being made, what are you going to play?

Answer: Nothing.



I'm pretty sure you can see where I'm going with this.



Company makes product >> Consumer buys product >> Company makes product >> Consumer "simply click a download link" >> Company goes out of business. No more games being made. End of the gaming community.



Don't be the person that stops the production of games. Don't be an idiot.
 
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Meh, people will never get it Auron. They'll only cry when people won't make games for them anymore. And as the connections get faster the development pot gets smaller. Then again, humans are pretty good at killing what they love.

Gooooo lazyness. Goooooo lawn your neighbours garden and earn some money, fatties.

Sawell, this is the exact problem LomCN has always had. Those here for a reason, versus those here because they don't understand.

Your average manufactured band will produce a CD every 6 months or so. It will cost around £10, and the larger ones will get massive sales. Your average development studio may churn out a new game every 2 years or so. It will cost £30, but their sales figures are nothing when compared to the manufactured band's.

The music artist may take frequent holidays. Live an indulgent lifestyle. Drive a big car. Reckon the game developers will? How many of them will have 18-carat rims. Hell, how many could afford to?

The music artist, his work hours are relatively flexible. He could be in the studio for a few weeks, but then he's out & free until the next album. The game developer works all year. He doesn't get half as much credit.

Tell me. Are you people really so incredibly stupid as to take money from an industry that desperately needs it. From people who aren't so different from you and me. From the average guy. You may not have any objection ripping off the pop superstar, but ripping off the little guy? That's just low.
 

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Not being funny but if you would like to buy the game go buy it,

Its hard to find a job around were I live ages 18 and below and when somethings on a plate being offerd to you for free shour your going to take it (only strange people don't). People who are saying that gaming industry will die out... thats bullcrap. It balances out the same as the music industry dose...

So when you lose your job and have no money and everyone has a game that you realy want don't be upset ^^

Oh and borrowing your mates to coppy his CD is realy the same as downloading it iligaly!!!


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I also bet 90% of you have some iligal softwere on your PC, whos gonna pay £100+ for items like paintshop, virus detectors and VB studio when you can get em free?
 
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Pebble

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Stickly said:
Oh and borrowing your mates to coppy his CD is realy the same as downloading it iligaly!!!

It isn't unless you are using a CD crack.

Theoritically you're buying the CD not the software, game, video or music on it.
 

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is that not hipicritical?

Now because you have borrowed a game your saying thats right...
The people who made that game lose out on a sale

I don't want to argue just state my point
 

Pebble

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They have lost out on a sale but as the CD is being bought it is the purchasers property and can be used as they wish.
If the company wanted to CD to be used once, they would make it so that the CD had to be in the CD ROM to actually work the software.
 
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Stickly said:
Its hard to find a job around were I live ages 18 and below and when somethings on a plate being offerd to you for free shour your going to take it (only strange people don't). People who are saying that gaming industry will die out... thats bullcrap. It balances out the same as the music industry dose...

You know, given that my optician recently said I'd do well not to try walking without a new pair of glasses, you must make me look positively longsighted.

Incase you hadn't noticed, the music industry is already ****ed. Most signed artists simply remix/**** over songs already made, in an attempt to further milk our wallets. The only way to get decent CDs is through shops which stock independant labels.

The game industry is going the same way. No, it won't die. It'll stagnate, instead. Instead of seeing exciting new games, you'll get constant sequels, maybe the odd Character Franchise A meets Character Franchise B game.

Oh, wait, have you not noticed that? The majority of games that make the shelves these days are rehashes of already made games. Why? Because morons are guaranteed to buy them. You'll get a few untalented developers working like *******s on the same thing OVER and OVER again. Take a look at EA, if you want to see the future.

Now, you can try and justify this incredibly stupid behaviour. "I can't get a job". Boo ****edy hoo. Move to somewhere where you can. There is work for people who are willing to take it. That sentence says to me you're either too far up yourself, or you're too stupid to do a job properly.

Wake up people, the future is just around the corner.
 

Stickly

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¤]´)÷¤--§îr Äürøñ--¤÷(`[¤ said:
You know, given that my optician recently said I'd do well not to try walking without a new pair of glasses, you must make me look positively longsighted.

Incase you hadn't noticed, the music industry is already ****ed. Most signed artists simply remix/**** over songs already made, in an attempt to further milk our wallets. The only way to get decent CDs is through shops which stock independant labels.

The game industry is going the same way. No, it won't die. It'll stagnate, instead. Instead of seeing exciting new games, you'll get constant sequels, maybe the odd Character Franchise A meets Character Franchise B game.

Oh, wait, have you not noticed that? The majority of games that make the shelves these days are rehashes of already made games. Why? Because morons are guaranteed to buy them. You'll get a few untalented developers working like *******s on the same thing OVER and OVER again. Take a look at EA, if you want to see the future.

Now, you can try and justify this incredibly stupid behaviour. "I can't get a job". Boo ****edy hoo. Move to somewhere where you can. There is work for people who are willing to take it. That sentence says to me you're either too far up yourself, or you're too stupid to do a job properly.

Wake up people, the future is just around the corner.

I know were your going Auron with the games and for one I don't realy play other games and most of my music is from the shops because I like my music and love collecting the real CD's.

I have plenty of job opitunitys when im 18 but all other jobs are like sesonal and 12-14 yearolds have them because;
1 they can't get done proply for selling sinide items,
2 they don't mind the £2.50 hour pay,

And the fact your telling me to move? Why leave home while at college for next to nothing?
My sisters work at a pub cutting Veg they get £10 for like 5 hours... its stupid.

So you could say I'm 'to far up myself' but you move down here and find a job at 17 with a full time college course (6am to 6.30pm) and the nerist towns like 20 miles away!!

I'v been sacked from most jobs because younger people and the Polish will work cash in hand for next to nothing!!

So I will say no more.
 
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Stickly said:
I know were your going Auron with the games and for one I don't realy play other games and most of my music is from the shops because I like my music and love collecting the real CD's.

I have plenty of job opitunitys when im 18 but all other jobs are like sesonal and 12-14 yearolds have them because;
1 they can't get done proply for selling sinide items,
2 they don't mind the £2.50 hour pay,

And the fact your telling me to move? Why leave home while at college for next to nothing?
My sisters work at a pub cutting Veg they get £10 for like 5 hours... its stupid.

So you could say I'm 'to far up myself' but you move down here and find a job at 17 with a full time college course (6am to 6.30pm) and the nerist towns like 20 miles away!!

I'v been sacked from most jobs because younger people and the Polish will work cash in hand for next to nothing!!

So I will say no more.

I suppose you've got to guage it in a very, VERY simple way.

You either get £2.50 per hour. Or you get £0 per hour. And what, pray, is wrong with cash in hand? o.O
 

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Whats wrong with cash in hand? and its illegal to pay less than £3 an hour for anyone aged 16 or 17, and i think its £4.20 for 18+