Game Shop

[TheDayIDie]

I've never really played this server, I got to like level 11 and stopped playing so I don't know what the server is like. Here is my idea's added to yours, give feedback

n terms of items that I think are novel:
- Hair cuts
- Mount skins
- wings
- horse items.
- low dc/mc/sc buff
- low exp buff
- torches
- pk reduction? maybe?

-Special haircuts
-RecallSet(1Day) & (3Day)
-Special Mounts/Mount skins
-Special glows/wings
-Low DC/MC/SC buffs - sort duration
-Low exp buff (maybe) - a lot of debate over this atm
-Low DC/SC/MC torches
-PK reduction pots (as mentioned before, nothing to game breaking like a full pk point wipe)
-PortableShopScroll - Basic pots, amulets, poison etc (maximum gold spend of like 100,000 gold per scroll)
-RepairOil - different one's for armor, accessory, weapon. NO SPECIAL REPAIR (it ruins economy).
-TeleportScroll - Purchase of 5scrolls for X amount, teleports player from any location to a cave entrance.
-AliveScroll - You must be on the same map as the mob, enter the mobs name. If the mob is alive on that means it says alive, if not it says mob dead. Allows users to check if a sub/boss is alive on a big map and not waste time running about.
-SkillNecklaces(1Day) & (3Day) - Again unsure on this, it's a common gameshop item but people may find it unfair.

 

[NightScare]

I think people don't look at the bigger picture... Firstly it is if they are in drops people will sell them, and there ARE people who will donate enough to level constantly on 1.2x exp pots. To assume they will sell them is a stupid idea. In the bigger numbers it does make a difference and for this reason it shouldn't be ingame. EXP multipliers should not be ingame. Server should stick to exp pills giving a set value. On high rates exp pots i can tolerate, not on low rates though, the increase they provide is too substantial. Pet leveling shouldn't be a benefit either as a level 7 pet vs level 0 pet is great deal & it allows wizards to have level 7 pets for a longer duration without having to level them, unfair for wizards with no £££. Samuel's list revised

• Hair Cuts
• Mount skins token - requires a basic brown mount to swap at a npc.
• Wings - sc 1-1 dc 1-1 mc 1-1 with different looks
• Horse items - do these have buffs? Possibly need to be fairly common otherwise only donators will be riding, but uncommon enough people will skip it.
• Impact Drugs etc... 180second boosts - the only time you need these is to put on kit really never see people level with them now
• Longer duration torches / wider spread
• PK point clean - only do 50 points, allowing people to pk then get a clean sheet is pointless in the system.
• PK points immunity - Rather than people pk'ing and then getting off make them plan it, and use a potion which for 15mins prevents them from obtaining points.
• Mob Skins - Spiders, Umbrella Girl etc...
• Magic / health wines

----------------------------------------- A possible 'game altering' prize could be if at the end of each week/month you did a prize draw of donators and they recieved a 'donators trophie' goes in stone slot and gives 5-5 dc/mc/sc. with a duration of 1 week. It is an incentive to donate but doesn't mean the richest player wins it. The crappest thing is when the game shop allows the biggest idiot with money to rule the server. Also why not have a 'donate for a mention' where the prize is your name to be shouted across the server with a value (minimum £2 to prevent spam). There are people here willin to give £300 to a server for its upkeep..

I never get this,

3H was alway everything donatable for.

Yet the Donaters neveruled; the server, ever... I just saw Donators as giant, lumbering cash cows which dropped 3/4 of the kit i was wearing.
Most Major; donaters the type who bought full kits, were foreign and played from Egypt ect so needed the kit to make up for there 712m/s ping....


Thats the joy of Mir when balanced properly Skill > Kit


If the team dont make a profit there not going to stay dedicated over a long period of time, this is a fact, they all have financial responsibilitys irl and better things to be doing with there time than listening to 14 years old cry because someone pk'ed them and this class is overpowered blah blah blah.

They may have good intentions now, but no-one can put up with the crap of running a server and listening to you lot for no personal gain over a prolonged period.

Its the same as blizzard spending all that time creating WOW, giving it away and then staying around for years adding new FREE content and a to fix all the "issues and balance" that the 13 year old trolls and crybabys have with the game.

All for Free, you live in a dreamworld son, it just wouldnt happen and the same principle applies to anything in life.

By blocking any sort of serious Profit-making model you are seriously shortening the life span of this server,

Unless samuel has the patience of a saint, and is all ready a multi-millionaire irl with no other responsibilitys. even then you guys would probarly push him over the edge after a year or two.

 

[jez]

how about no guild creation from WT horn, but you pay from game shop for a token.
then you can add extras..
Guild Territory £x amount a month.. its down to guilds how they finance it.
Guild pet areas
Guild colours/banners
Guild wars cost tokens.
To join a guild you need a token too, from game shop.

just no exp boosters! lol

 

[TheDayIDie]

how about no guild creation from WT horn, but you pay from game shop for a token.
then you can add extras..
Guild Territory £x amount a month.. its down to guilds how they finance it.
Guild pet areas
Guild colours/banners
Guild wars cost tokens.
To join a guild you need a token too, from game shop.

just no exp boosters! lol

So you penalise people who can't / won't donate to make a guild then penalise them from joining one?
Guilds are a big part of the mir community, I think if you make people pay to join a guild they would leave or just not bother with a guild.

 

[Nemo]

As Sam has said, we haven't discussed what the GameShop, sorry, 'GameDonationPage', will include.

Personally I am also not a fan of exp pots being in there, however, I think 1.2x exp pots limited to 1 a day, or say, 5 a week per account, would be fine, if we're assuming everything in there will also be achievable through drops.

 

[JordanF]

All good other than exp pots server looks too good to spoil tbh and they will put a lot of ppl off, I understand u need to cover costs but there are probably better alternatives. Could maybe settle with it if they were only included in something like a vip package, 4 a month with other novely bits for 5er a month, nobody would be storming ahead then buying pots everyday. wud make a fair bit with the user count shud it be as good as ace, probs better

 

[Nick13786]

I never get this,

3H was alway everything donatable for.

Yet the Donaters neveruled; the server, ever... I just saw Donators as giant, lumbering cash cows which dropped 3/4 of the kit i was wearing.
Most Major; donaters the type who bought full kits, were foreign and played from Egypt ect so needed the kit to make up for there 712m/s ping....


Thats the joy of Mir when balanced properly Skill > Kit


If the team dont make a profit there not going to stay dedicated over a long period of time, this is a fact, they all have financial responsibilitys irl and better things to be doing with there time than listening to 14 years old cry because someone pk'ed them and this class is overpowered blah blah blah.

They may have good intentions now, but no-one can put up with the crap of running a server and listening to you lot for no personal gain over a prolonged period.

Its the same as blizzard spending all that time creating WOW, giving it away and then staying around for years adding new FREE content and a to fix all the "issues and balance" that the 13 year old trolls and crybabys have with the game.

All for Free, you live in a dreamworld son, it just wouldnt happen and the same principle applies to anything in life.

By blocking any sort of serious Profit-making model you are seriously shortening the life span of this server,

Unless samuel has the patience of a saint, and is all ready a multi-millionaire irl with no other responsibilitys. even then you guys would probarly push him over the edge after a year or two.

Amen to that

 

[Hoody]

how about a personal leveling cave, a teleport that takes you to a cave with no bosses and just mobs, no pk area just a peaceful place for people to hunt. exp wouldnt need to be anything special and mobs should just drop gold.... buy a teleporter that lasts a week and you have somewhere to level peacefuly


unless being able to level in peace for a week with average exp and nothing but abit of gold dropping is unfair?

theres always going to be negative pricks either way

 

[NewHope]

Thing is though the people that are more likely to donate are those people with money.
Money comes from working... If your working your not playing the game...
Those people who say they 'grind', thats fine but not everyone is on the dole.
I always saw donations as a way for people who couldn't play as much to catch up to those that played 8-12hours a day.

 

[SmavidDavid]

Thing is though the people that are more likely to donate are those people with money.
Money comes from working... If your working your not playing the game...
Those people who say they 'grind', thats fine but not everyone is on the dole.
I always saw donations as a way for people who couldn't play as much to catch up to those that played 8-12hours a day.

If you live in England though you can not work and get money!

 

[jez]

So you penalise people who can't / won't donate to make a guild then penalise them from joining one?
Guilds are a big part of the mir community, I think if you make people pay to join a guild they would leave or just not bother with a guild.

yer fk em. i dont buy this cant afford bull/s. A quid to join a guild is reasonable. contribute to the game you wanna play or fk off.
fair system.

 

[Skyline]

yer fk em. i dont buy this cant afford bull/s. A quid to join a guild is reasonable. contribute to the game you wanna play or fk off.
fair system.

Pay to join a guild...? Seriously?

A quid or not, I'd not want to pay money to join a guild. That has to be one of the craziest idea's I've heard so far.

 

[jez]

Pay to join a guild...? Seriously?

A quid or not, I'd not want to pay money to join a guild. That has to be one of the craziest idea's I've heard so far.

Crazier is...

We're sorry to announce Chronicles of Mir will close on April 1st, This is despite our best efforts, we were unable to raise enough funds to cover the costs of the Server and general game upkeep." Thank you & goodbye.

That is of course, if its opened by then :P

 

[SmavidDavid]

Jez.. i hope Samuel posts t to prove your monthly donation to this sever. 'Cause i'm fairly sure whens its live if gameshop isn't offering you substantial stuff to get an advantage, you wont donate but be first to complain if Samuel closes it due to money.

 

[Pottsy]

The way I see it, as long as the items you get are in drops as well. Put whatever you like.

I don't see why people that have money to throw away should get anything 'extra' on top of real players.

GameShop should be for people to cba to hunt for stuff, obviously leaving out the stupidity such as actual items. But if you put exp pots in, then they should also drop from bosses an stuff

 

[jez]

Jez.. i hope Samuel posts t to prove your monthly donation to this sever. 'Cause i'm fairly sure whens its live if gameshop isn't offering you substantial stuff to get an advantage, you wont donate but be first to complain if Samuel closes it due to money.

And you base this on what? Rather a silly post tbh.
i put up a few ideas to address costing problems and also say im not a fan of exp boosters.
i would much prefer we all paid subs 3 or 4 quid a month. i didnt play usa mir for long because of the game shop bollox.
The best way to fund anygame is subs, all these "free" to play models are anything but.

At the end of Acem2's life there were around 70 players still, a quid a month off each would of almost paid the £80 for server.
As for gameshop advantage, i couldnt be more against that, thats my biggest concern, that players will find a way to work an advantage.
so yer i doubt very much ill buy anything from game shop.
id pay to join a guild tho.
Your right tho, im sure there will be lots of free riders, another plus for subs and not a shop!
Posting who donates isnt a bad idea.

The only Advantage i need in Mir is me, i grind and fight and enjoy.
1st to complain if it closes coz of money? fkin right!

 

[Hyd]

A very simple solution...

For £5 a month you purchase an XP boost item that expires at the end of each month.

- Set the normal XP rate to x1 (normal rate)
- Make the monthly XP booster x3 (current rate)


All donations problems are solved. No need for cash shop or additional donation page.

 

[jez]

Oo +1

i think you've nailed it!

 

[Hoody]

yeah think thats probaly best way! thought maybe x2 rate instead of x1 to stop abit of moaning! :P

not that ill be spending money on the server :P

 

[Breezer]

I say put the shop in and put a load of **** in it , like pets and hair dye...Just to make you all scream and cry like bitches.