Game Shop

[Doobie]

In regards to 'donations' I think the best approach would be to offer cosmetic items and small boosts / advantages only, as people have already mentioned. With regards to XP potions I personally wouldn't mind 1.2x pots limited to 1 per day. However, I think there's room for more creative ideas rather than simple XP potions.

One way would to be offer an optional monthly sub, cheap-ish price say £5 per month.
Possible benefits:
- 1.2x XP (some people wouldn't like this, but IMO this would be fine as long as XP pots aren't there too)
- Only subbers can list items on the TrustMerchant (everyone can buy, only subbers can list)
- Only subbers can lead a guild
- Bigger bank
- etc

Of course this "freemium" method could be used in conjunction with cosmetic items.

Another method I've thought of would involve XP pots, but before you all screw your faces up and cry pay2win - listen:

They should start scheduling regular events, maybe a weekly few hour XP or drop event (or both, alternate based on player preference or whatever) where everyone gets 1.2x XP or drop. But you can purchase an XP/drop pot, which you can only use for the duration of this event which will give you 2x XP for the duration of this event - event could last ~3h, boost could cost £3-5?. You can only use ONE, and only use it for the duration of the event, and it should be visible to other players that you're using the item. If you are killed, this item is dropped (100% chance) and your killer (or friend) can pick it up and use it for the rest of the event - and you won't be able to just buy another (until next event ofc).

This would be great IMO, the event would get everyone on hunting together, donating, and PKing. And it gives good players/guilds who don't / can't donate a chance to gain "paid for" benefits for free.

Weekly / monthly scheduled events would be great, and ones that encourage donations would definitely motivate the GM's to get on and run them for us.

 

[Reloaded69]

this server looks good, might even dust off my pc just for this server, seeing as last time round the only way to beat me was to ban me!

/Skibadee

 

[Hoody]

One way would to be offer an optional monthly sub, cheap-ish price say £5 per month.
Possible benefits:
- 1.2x XP (some people wouldn't like this, but IMO this would be fine as long as XP pots aren't there too)
- Only subbers can list items on the TrustMerchant (everyone can buy, only subbers can list)
- Only subbers can lead a guild
- Bigger bank
- etc

Worst idea ever, you working for bioware ? as bad as SWTOR free to play!

 

[Pottsy]

A server capable of hosting this game is NOT £80 a month, a decent Virtual Server from various hosting companies are more than capable of hosting the server. And cost around £30.

Do you even know the difference between a virtual and a physical server or did you just google it and see its cheaper?

 

[phoenixdancer]

Do you even know the difference between a virtual and a physical server or did you just google it and see its cheaper?

I know the Diff perfectly well thanks, What you failed to conclude from my post is that there is NO NEED for more than a virtual server.

read my post again, and stop trying to imply people are stupid when in fact you made yourself look stupid

 

[Pottsy]

I know the Diff perfectly well thanks, What you failed to conclude from my post is that there is NO NEED for more than a virtual server.

read my post again, and stop trying to imply people are stupid when in fact you made yourself look stupid

If you did you would know a physical server is the best option for running something like this

 

[bayya]

Suggest Game shop items are not trade able, cannot be gifted, vanish when dropped, cannot be sold on TM.
Buffs even very small and exp alter the game on every server I played that had them.

 

[Richens]

Maximum donation p/week £2.50
or
Maximum donation p/month £7.50

Benefits
> When right clicking someone and 'viewing' - It shows Donated in a glowing colour.
> 2x 'Essential Packs' which when double clicked gives 1x TT Bundles / 4x RT Bundles / 10x XL HP+MP Bunds / 2x SunBunds
> Also gives 1x XL Torch - very long lasting
> 1x Choice of a free haircut
> 1x Choice of mount colour change

I really don't think it should be much more than that to be honest.

No + DC/MC/SC stats
No + EXP%

Donations are purely for showing support of the server and the team really.

 

[Violet9]

Things I'd like to see on GS:
-GS items or points able to be traded or even sold in TM;
-Cosmetics like Haircuts or only hair dyes, wings, etc. Ocasional (event) skin tokens like Santa, JackOLanterns or other fun and creative looking skins;
-Consumables, Torches with large light area and durability;
-Mounts
-Maybe Global Chat scrolls for global announcements?... but then the spammers issue would need to be solved somehow.
-If any scrolls active for a certain amount of time, I'd like them to not disappear/cancel on re-log. They could either save and apply next time you log in or just be active in real time.
-Special repairs (we won't have too many gems/orbs/nice items dropped anyway, I hope).

Things I would NOT like on GS:
-Items that would give a significant power boost. No Experience/Drop scrolls. I guess it's not game breaking if there's a non-stackable low exp/drop boost (like 10%). I personally don't want exp/drop scrolls in game at all, let's stick to old skool lvling/hunting.
-Non-tradable GS items (or account bound);
-Cosmetics with exaggerated size or effects, that wouldn't look like Mir2 no more;
-Inappropriate skin effects (like being able to look dressed in HA when in fact you're wearing LightArmor or you're not even the OKR lvl, yet you look like wearing one); this would create a boring and inappropriate landscape of "all high levels dressed in MirArmor or OKR, HA" when in fact we're a bunch of noobs.
-Boxes with x% chance of giving weapons, armors or accessories or gold;
-Donate for social interraction -"Pay to join a guild" - it would change the clasic Mir too much.

I've heard others saying "the rich ppl with no time should be given the chance for drops or faster lvling, so exp. scrolls are OK", but this is a controversial idea and you shouldn't rely on this idea when deciding if u'll add or won't add exp scrolls because the fact is: rich ppl with no time will always find a way to catch up with the top ones if they want to, with or without exp scrolls, legal or not, like it or not. Plus if exp scrolls added, there will always be grinding geeks who'd max out their exp boost and go nuts with lvling. They'll lvl anyway, with or without exp scrolls.

 

[jez]

id like to see comedy Breasts
Exploding cigars
Gm's phone numbers
no exp scrolls
no plus anything stat wise.

 

[phoenixdancer]

If you did you would know a physical server is the best option for running something like this

Its absolutely not. You think otherwise, that's fine. People spend to much these days on things they dont need.

 

[Pottsy]

Its absolutely not. You think otherwise, that's fine. People spend to much these days on things they dont need.

I can tell you now, I already know someone who tried it on a virtual server and just quite simply sucked

 

[phoenixdancer]

In that case they may have used one that was crap.
There are some very decent ones out there that are more than capable.

And a small example is that Jamie's server ran fine on one and wasnt close to 10% of the resources used,

 

[NightScare]

Maximum donation p/week £2.50
or
Maximum donation p/month £7.50

Benefits
> When right clicking someone and 'viewing' - It shows Donated in a glowing colour.
> 2x 'Essential Packs' which when double clicked gives 1x TT Bundles / 4x RT Bundles / 10x XL HP+MP Bunds / 2x SunBunds
> Also gives 1x XL Torch - very long lasting
> 1x Choice of a free haircut
> 1x Choice of mount colour change

I really don't think it should be much more than that to be honest.

No + DC/MC/SC stats
No + EXP%

Donations are purely for showing support of the server and the team really.

And weres the teams motivation to continue listening to the cry babys and provide content update, be called black to blue about how **** there server is by everyone who plays it, whinged at constantly to keep the server "Low rate" but also provide new content (Hows that even possible...) if there's no Profitbility in the server, Yeh i see this lasting years......


People need to get over there "anti-gameshop" attitudes if this game is to survive long term.

 

[Slipmatt]

And weres the teams motivation to continue listening to the cry babys and provide content update, be called black to blue about how **** there server is by everyone who plays it, whinged at constantly to keep the server "Low rate" but also provide new content (Hows that even possible...) if there's no Profitbility in the server, Yeh i see this lasting years......


People need to get over there "anti-gameshop" attitudes if this game is to survive long term.

Agree'd, look what happened to ace. Yes it was taken down for remodeling but also no help towards dedicated hosting must of been a major key too.

Without some kind of donation scheme how do you expect them to keep a server up and running for us long term? all the big servers e.g the shite i call MR and also the likes of p69/ arcadia were donation based and look how long they have all survived.. Lets be honest we all want something thats going to be here for the long term not just to waste time on then to wake up one morning to find its closing down..

 

[ervinzed]

character customization features are the most popular

making fully customized character cross class

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also char specific custom collectable rare items and boosters

 

[jez]

And weres the teams motivation to continue listening to the cry babys and provide content update, be called black to blue about how **** there server is by everyone who plays it, whinged at constantly to keep the server "Low rate" but also provide new content (Hows that even possible...) if there's no Profitbility in the server, Yeh i see this lasting years......


People need to get over there "anti-gameshop" attitudes if this game is to survive long term.

The motivation is, they love mir.
There all ex players, they know the script, they know we bitch and moan and slag em off (this isnt exclusive to mir btw, go on any mmo forums)
The point is amongst all the bitching and moaning are some very valid points and great ideas to make the game better and move it forward.
Were never all gonna agree, but thats what makes the forums funny and interesting to read.

So as i understand it, its not about profit, its about covering costs. Which should be very easy to achieve with a good playerbase, which in turn will come with a great mir, with updates etc etc.
Soooo, if they stay on the ball it should survive np. It dont need a gameshop, the idea Hyd had solves it all.
exp scrolls and boosters are the game breakers and stupid **** like that. :@

 

[NightScare]

The motivation is, they love mir.
There all ex players, they know the script, they know we bitch and moan and slag em off (this isnt exclusive to mir btw, go on any mmo forums)
The point is amongst all the bitching and moaning are some very valid points and great ideas to make the game better and move it forward.
Were never all gonna agree, but thats what makes the forums funny and interesting to read.

So as i understand it, its not about profit, its about covering costs. Which should be very easy to achieve with a good playerbase, which in turn will come with a great mir, with updates etc etc.
Soooo, if they stay on the ball it should survive np. It dont need a gameshop, the idea Hyd had solves it all.
exp scrolls and boosters are the game breakers and stupid **** like that. :@

You live in a dream-world mate.

Not a single "None-Profit" "for the love of the game" server has lasted over 6-12 months.

In the ten year history of these forums.

The reality is, this is a capitalist world, time is money my friend and while they may have the time and patience now, sooner or later a time is going to come when they don't, and if they aint making no money, there aint no motivation to carry on.

Which results in a dead server ^_^, regardless if costs are met or not, Humans are genetically and naturally selfish creatures, you cant feed your family and put a roof over there heads on good intentions.

While im not saying its "Impossible" that this server will last over 12 months, i am saying statistically its Shelf life is alot shorter without a Profit model, than with a profit model, because when there lives get busy the first things people ditch/sack of are hobbys/none profit recreational tasks.


If you think your ever going to have a professional run, long term server with regular updates your all going to have to pull your heads of your own arses and come to terms with the fact a game shop is needed, a team that makes 2-4k a month is going to be alot more motivated to deliver consistent quality content, than one that just covers the costs.

 

[Rollcage]

You live in a dream-world mate.

Not a single "None-Profit" "for the love of the game" server has lasted over 6-12 months.

In the ten year history of these forums.

The reality is, this is a capitalist world, time is money my friend and while they may have the time and patience now, sooner or later a time is going to come when they don't, and if they aint making no money, there aint no motivation to carry on.

Which results in a dead server ^_^, regardless if costs are met or not, Humans are genetically and naturally selfish creatures, you cant feed your family and put a roof over there heads on good intentions.

While im not saying its "Impossible" that this server will last over 12 months, i am saying statistically its Shelf life is alot shorter without a Profit model, than with a profit model, because when there lives get busy the first things people ditch/sack of are hobbys/none profit recreational tasks.


If you think your ever going to have a professional run, long term server with regular updates your all going to have to pull your heads of your own arses and come to terms with the fact a game shop is needed, a team that makes 2-4k a month is going to be alot more motivated to deliver consistent quality content, than one that just covers the costs.

sounds about right

 

[ervinzed]

i say focus on user generated content and opinions fro new players, look also at what works for the most popular online *latest games