GameMasters Read, Some advice.

[ILovePie:D]

Right a challenge melkor, when you bring 30 people to a fight vs 5 and stand back letting your wizzies met and bliz with ur shop kitted greifing chars in there hitting us, that is not a challege is it? Lol.

Would 30 v 30 fights not be more fun than 5 v 5?

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Just so yano tested warr vs wizz damage not long ago with similarly kitted out chars

wizz 1min damage =9k

warr 1min damage =26k

havent done one a sin but pretty sure toriblack would be over 25k and Inoob would just be silly lol

Is that testing it on a trainer? With AoE spells? The trainer only picks up one square. FF hits for 9 squares. 9x9K = 81k damage. You can add in Blizz and Met Strike to that equation too.

I'll try tori out later

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People say you mass recruit because you do. I was in bdd with 3 players with no guild the other week, I grouped with them chatted played together. Next time I see them they are in Forsaken and I am sure they didnt know any of you.
Forsaken was not around at the start of the server nor was Team think DD was
Lying will get you on to Santas naughty list you know
The poll was even before BH time and polls can be manipulated. Biggest guild votes for what they want.
The server count was 500 ish not 200. Guild cap shoulda been lowered with the user count.
Drop it to 50 and one alliance.

Team has been around since the start of the server.

 

[joking]

Right a challenge melkor, when you bring 30 people to a fight vs 5 and stand back letting your wizzies met and bliz with ur shop kitted greifing chars in there hitting us, that is not a challenge is it? Lol.

I dont personally mind the numbers, makes it a very easy decision to just say no to some fights.. which sucks, as i do love a good fight, win or lose i dont personally care aslong as its a good fight. But being over run by waves upon waves of players sucks ass and its just not worth losing anything over. So i get the initial point of lowering guild limit. But 100% it wouldnt change a thing.

As for both Team and Forsaken constantly throwing out rumours of betrayal ... you guys have no idea how much backstabbing goes on in your own guilds, you really dont :/ (and im talking currently) Mind your own business you miserable people

Just because our problems became common knowledge, doesnt mean your own doorstep is '**** free'.

Get a grip lmao

 

[Tyga]

Right.. I didnt come to argue or have a bitch fight. If tori and melk jump of their high horses and be honest here would be nice... Fine maybe people want big guilds/numbers... But tori or melk for once agree im making a point here.

Mass fights are fun sure. But way wizard is at moment its not, we had evilwoman2 in tko and soon as he came EE we was wiping groups by the mass. Thats when i noticed the problem.. People stood back like they do in both guilds and let wiz blizz/met other group and that one or two wizards take out most of other group except warriors usually. Its not a cry to neef wizards its a pointer im showing that with bliz met spam how it is, it does ruin big fights. Be nice if one of you agree with me when you see other team with 2/3 blizz/met wizies and you havent brought any along, how much impact they change on a fight to other clases, sure warriors sins do hurt but in order for melee classes to hurt you have to run in there to get a hit off... Not stand back and just lol while spamminng met or bliz and dropping taos sins and adchdrs like flys. Every class except wizzies will agree with me about this, not saying nerf damage on them... Im saying make met and bloz a risk factor spell that it was always meant to be where you stood rooted no matter what even if canceled.. And a shated cooldown like there meant to have, because at the moment wizzies just lol and spam it with no care in world because soon as a class gets near the wiz can just auto run off.

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dont get why certain people always have to come cry.. For once as a community who wants best for server can you not just agree with me as you know its right, rather than disagreeing for easy mode times.

 

[ILovePie:D]

Right.. I didnt come to argue or have a bitch fight. If tori and melk jump of their high horses and be honest here would be nice... Fine maybe people want big guilds/numbers... But tori or melk for once agree im making a point here.

Mass fights are fun sure. But way wizard is at moment its not, we had evilwoman2 in tko and soon as he came EE we was wiping groups by the mass. Thats when i noticed the problem.. People stood back like they do in both guilds and let wiz blizz/met other group and that one or two wizards take out most of other group except warriors usually. Its not a cry to neef wizards its a pointer im showing that with bliz met spam how it is, it does ruin big fights. Be nice if one of you agree with me when you see other team with 2/3 blizz/met wizies and you havent brought any along, how much impact they change on a fight to other clases, sure warriors sins do hurt but in order for melee classes to hurt you have to run in there to get a hit off... Not stand back and just lol while spamminng met or bliz and dropping taos sins and adchdrs like flys. Every class except wizzies will agree with me about this, not saying nerf damage on them... Im saying make met and bloz a risk factor spell that it was always meant to be where you stood rooted no matter what even if canceled.. And a shated cooldown like there meant to have, because at the moment wizzies just lol and spam it with no care in world because soon as a class gets near the wiz can just auto run off.

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dont get why certain people always have to come cry.. For once as a community who wants best for server can you not just agree with me as you know its right, rather than disagreeing for easy mode times.

Blizz / Met will still ruin your smaller fights too. There has been posts made about these skills, which will make fights more enjoyable. DD have the best Wizard force around in fights, and we still have great fights with them.

I agree that the high MC wiz are a game changer, yet in our recent fights with DD, we have still wiped them out countless times without OP Wizards ourselves. Like you said, it becomes boring when people rely on 1 or 2 people to win a fight. It's also boring when people door block too.

Big fights are a lot more fun, 20 v 20 fights are great, and we can't wait for the new Sabuk to come into place.

 

[Tyga]

Doorblock is a tactic we use to take double our numbers.. Only actually do it if they have a wiz with met n blizz... Says alot really

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You clearly dont know ne tori. Im not out to ruin game in my favour so i can 1 hit classes, i play mir for fights nothing more.. Im stating wizard bliz and met needs adressing, its ruining the fun out of a fight as it is... I fail to understand how you dont see that or is it because you have two of the highest mc/lvl wiz ingame?

 

[Tigerspottin]

The fact that people recently voted on guild size is extremely relevant here.

Many people seem to think that polls don't work because the big guilds just vote for what they want. I am afraid that people who believe this to be true are just plain wrong. It is usually people who say this who also say things like "forsaken always crying" or "team always blah blah".

Your insistence in describing us as one entity with one voice is inaccurate (and always winds me up tbh lol). Anyone who has ever spent more than five minutes on Forsaken team speak would understand the truth which is that we don't always agree on whats best for the game, we don't always agree on what's best for the guild and we ALWAYS maintain our own views rather than towing some imaginary party line. We are a group of individuals who like playing mir together.

If more people voted for one particular thing, it was because more people wanted it. Personally speaking (and not on behalf of anyone other than myself) I really enjoy playing with the people that are in our community and would find a way to still hunt with them all even if guild size was reduced.

I actually believe there are some merits to smaller guild sizes in terms of game play, but fact is, I would not value those benefits higher than the relationships it has taken our guild a year to develop.

 

[ILovePie:D]

Doorblock is a tactic we use to take double our numbers.. Only actually do it if they have a wiz with met n blizz... Says alot really

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You clearly dont know ne tori. Im not out to ruin game in my favour so i can 1 hit classes, i play mir for fights nothing more.. Im stating wizard bliz and met needs adressing, its ruining the fun out of a fight as it is... I fail to understand how you dont see that or is it because you have two of the highest mc/lvl wiz ingame?

Are you a special kind of stupid? Look at the other threads relating to MB / Blizz etc, and you'll see that we all want them toned down.

If you want some good fights, you're in the wrong guild.

 

[Tyga]

I have good fights thanks, until you guys bring all wizzies you can get just to win. And as for wrong guild nah im not, i dont need 40 people to fight with me to boost my ego and think were amazing, anyway done arguing with you shaun, your IQ level is that of an ape. Your a buyist player whos for his own gains.

 

[ILovePie:D]

I have good fights thanks, until you guys bring all wizzies you can get just to win. And as for wrong guild nah im not, i dont need 40 people to fight with me to boost my ego and think were amazing, anyway done arguing with you shaun, your IQ level is that of an ape. Your a buyist player whos for his own gains.

You know I don't need 40 people to back me up to make you TT either.

We bring along anyone who wants to come to hunts, like guilds should do?

 

[Tyga]

Sorted, 1v1 outside sz tonight, no pots or tele. Fight til death, every1 can come watch, where and when gorgeous?x

 

[CrazyBear...]

Loser has to make a public apology thread accepting the other man was better?

 

[Tigerspottin]

interesting thread, time of death 11.02

 

[MelkorXV]

ToriBlack vs Ramboone...

No wonder you're getting smashed 30v5, someone doesn't know when to pick their battles ha

 

[Tyga]

Toriblack vs hyperviper actually same level ish, both luck 7 fair enough fight really?x

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Ill even put 10 mill wager on it tori isnt good he just has kit, i have kit also so skill will previal x

 

[azzi]

Blizz / Met will still ruin your smaller fights too. There has been posts made about these skills, which will make fights more enjoyable. DD have the best Wizard force around in fights, and we still have great fights with them.

I agree that the high MC wiz are a game changer, yet in our recent fights with DD, we have still wiped them out countless times without OP Wizards ourselves. Like you said, it becomes boring when people rely on 1 or 2 people to win a fight. It's also boring when people door block too.

DD dare I say it... Awful

Forsaken don't recruit mass numbers, their extremely picky about who go's in .


Bliz/Met should have a cooldown - As should shoulderdash.

 

[Tyga]

**edit** ill use luck5 dsword to give him a fair advantage actually x

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Sdash does have a cooldown and its not really a damaging spell, but if it needs looking into thats fine, put cd on repulse and ss aswell?

 

[azzi]

SDash has about .5Second cooldown on here, it should be 2-3 seconds as on Euro, Met/Bliz should have about 10 second cooldown. Rep never had CD SS should, a teleport spell with no CD is OP. Simple.

 

[Tyga]

Its thats how dash was on euro im fine with that being changed. Like i said i want balance not easy mode classes.

So tori whats happening youve gone quiet now?

 

[ILovePie:D]

Its thats how dash was on euro im fine with that being changed. Like i said i want balance not easy mode classes.

So tori whats happening youve gone quiet now?

Sorry for the delayed response hunz, i'm at work.

Wouldn't a fairer fight be if I logged onto Depress and you used Hyperviper?

I think it was you who implied I needed numbers to fight on Tori and you called me out. Suggesting that your own character and kit was better than my efforts?

Let's have a fight in a cave, as that's where real people fight?

You'll have to wait until the weekend though.

 

[Koriban]

That's why you need hands from other ranged class to flinch wizz. It is the spirit of the server: cooperation.

Straight from the horses mouth.

Want to beat a wizz? gang up on him.