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Veora

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Is this working as intended? It hits like Francis Ngannou in AoE form (hitting me for ~230 non-red damage) has better range than any archer skills and requires Stevie Wonder-like aiming. It seems so backwards that AoE skills hit harder than single target, Up the FD damage and lower Glacial Shower. I'm sure if flaming arrow could hit 16 people at a time people would be raging!
 

jaffar91

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Seems a fair comment if the above is correct?? Or does glacial have cooldown?
 

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Glacial is pretty much most broken aoe skill in game... can 2 shot taos sins, no comment to what it does in group fights... does 200’s and can do up to 250+ from top end wizzies and is 4x4 afaik.

this skill is beyond powerful and I think you’ll see it when everyone rerolls/makes a guild full of wizzies, no one would survive 10+ coordinates glacials

firewalls can do up to 120 from all top wizzies..

the list goes on
 

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They reply you will get is "You judt gotta understand how to use tge skills."
 

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Ice Storm actually hits harder than Glacial Shower, it's just harder to land.

I do agree though, single target spells like Flame Disrupter should be hitting harder than a ranged AoE.
 
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Ice Storm actually hits harder than Glacial Shower, it's just harder to land.

I do agree though, single target spells like Flame Disrupter should be hitting harder than a ranged AoE.

It also costs about 180mana per cast :miserable:
 

Drakay

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Buying this spell by the way :):)

The one in the title.

/Avata
 

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lol @ kori with 180 mp thing...most of the wizz skills can 2 hits any sins 45+ , GS + FF im dead , 2x FF im dead , icestorm + FF im dead , yet i cant 2 hit wizz with any skills ....so what happent is that wizz is bk to OP like it was @ begginin when FW + FD was OP , now its just diffrent skills but still same **** , sin is the best DPS my ass , 2 sins hiting a wizz and not dieing or an archer lol...yet archer also can 2 hit me ,
0 balance.
 

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Like I said before up everyone’s HP and don’t nerf the spells. More balanced instantly.

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HP has never scaled correctly with the ever changing newer than euro high end spells.
 

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lol @ kori with 180 mp thing...most of the wizz skills can 2 hits any sins 45+ , GS + FF im dead , 2x FF im dead , icestorm + FF im dead , yet i cant 2 hit wizz with any skills ....so what happent is that wizz is bk to OP like it was @ begginin when FW + FD was OP , now its just diffrent skills but still same **** , sin is the best DPS my ass , 2 sins hiting a wizz and not dieing or an archer lol...yet archer also can 2 hit me ,
0 balance.

i was killing all ur guild wizzes on sinpaki, most of them in 2 hits..is just the skills mate.

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Glacial is pretty much most broken aoe skill in game... can 2 shot taos sins, no comment to what it does in group fights... does 200’s and can do up to 250+ from top end wizzies and is 4x4 afaik.

this skill is beyond powerful and I think you’ll see it when everyone rerolls/makes a guild full of wizzies, no one would survive 10+ coordinates glacials

firewalls can do up to 120 from all top wizzies..

the list goes on

u just cant say tht.. is the luck causing problems here, once u got lk 6 things going crazy..but not.for.wizzes only lol.. lets not speak about warrs, sins..

and we all know wizzes hp.
 

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Like I said before up everyone’s HP and don’t nerf the spells. More balanced instantly.

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HP has never scaled correctly with the ever changing newer than euro high end spells.


This is a valid point, people scale damage of spells and sc/dc/mc scaling on items, but you are stuck with the same hp pools that haven't taken into account these changes.
 

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What is the use in a glass cannon that fires paper balls?

Where is the logic.. any other class can 1 or 2 hit a Wizard, if your struggling to do that you not playing your class right.

Wizards are bottom of the chain in PvP until they get these extremely rare skills that most of the population do not have..
 
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Veora

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What is the use in a glass cannon that fires paper balls?

Where is the logic.. any other class can 1 or 2 hit a Wizard, if your struggling to do that you not playing your class right.

Wizards are bottom of the chain in PvP until they get these extremely rare skills that most of the population do not have..

I don't want them to fire paper balls, wizzies should be targeting a powerful single target spell at enemies not just face rolling glacial spike which requires 0 skill. Why don't they just swap the FD and Glacial Spike damage around?
 

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What is the use in a glass cannon that fires paper balls?

Where is the logic.. any other class can 1 or 2 hit a Wizard, if your struggling to do that you not playing your class right.

Wizards are bottom of the chain in PvP until they get these extremely rare skills that most of the population do not have..

Wizzies can tank dnno what bs your on about lol, I’ve been on a 48 wiz and managed to tank 2 sins a wiz Tao and war for over 10 seconds while outputting stupid damage.... while I used a 4x4 aoe which 2 hit taos sins and bliz Ff For sins wars...

i think a hp buff is needed at this point, people die too too quick
 

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Wizzies can tank dnno what bs your on about lol, I’ve been on a 48 wiz and managed to tank 2 sins a wiz Tao and war for over 10 seconds while outputting stupid damage.... while I used a 4x4 aoe which 2 hit taos sins and bliz Ff For sins wars...

i think a hp buff is needed at this point, people die too too quick

Sound legit. are we talking level 35 chars? xD
 

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Wizzies can tank dnno what bs your on about lol, I’ve been on a 48 wiz and managed to tank 2 sins a wiz Tao and war for over 10 seconds while outputting stupid damage.... while I used a 4x4 aoe which 2 hit taos sins and bliz Ff For sins wars...

i think a hp buff is needed at this point, people die too too quick

Jesus Ibby, that's some tanking i think i need to copy your set up mate. Teach me.
 

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i think the Hp increase is a longer term plan to be fair, most classes are hitting hard, a hp increase will simply mean, classes like the archer and wiz, will not need improving, we can then increase damage of classes slightly behind, this will then lead to a more balanced fight system. This will therefore mean we need to increase all hp/damage of bosses/mobs too, to ensure things dont become too easy. With this, it will take some time.


I will speak to the team tonight, to discuss further

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