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GMs did you consider..
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Yes but shock doesn't stop the ranged mobs from hitting you.
if the pets are not suppose to be tamed get rid of them. The only use in them frogs is for taming.
If if you want high levels to have something to tame maybe stop making mobs above them frogs only 1 at a time...
add new stuff instead of making the stuff that has been played countless times less contended.
Eurp means **** all. They didn't have archers, sins or orcs so let's stop changing things (after a year of working out that it's broke) to something that failed and had many many flaws.
also this thing about euro has not only just been discovered so why leave it so long? Many have benefited. Got past certain walls and now it's changed so any new players can't have the same benefits and easy loves as the people already getting it easy.
if the pets are not suppose to be tamed get rid of them. The only use in them frogs is for taming.
If if you want high levels to have something to tame maybe stop making mobs above them frogs only 1 at a time...
add new stuff instead of making the stuff that has been played countless times less contended.
Eurp means **** all. They didn't have archers, sins or orcs so let's stop changing things (after a year of working out that it's broke) to something that failed and had many many flaws.
also this thing about euro has not only just been discovered so why leave it so long? Many have benefited. Got past certain walls and now it's changed so any new players can't have the same benefits and easy loves as the people already getting it easy.
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As per most of my posts,they are wizz relative.Just thinking of up and coming wizards thats all.I certainly wouldnt want to have tamed 2+ frogs being a low lvled wizz to then be wiped out by a bunch of foxes or a pker to then start over BECAUSE I COULDNT RT.During my leveling i ve experienced plenty of that **** not to mention lagouts....
pets last 24 hrs max and to solo playing low lvl wizz they are an important part of lvling,yes there are easier ways to lvl on a wiz...i enjoyed taming pets and soloing until archer tu..
As stated it matters to my char 0..i have already endured that part ,now it is harder for others...no hidden self agenda at all,and to those that think there is..come to foxes and try pk me :P i will be there looking out for my fellow wizzers:love-struck:
I love how when it suits people - they say 'well euro mir does it this way', and when it doesn't suit them 'this isn't euro mir, so why are you doing this'
This was a change that was needed. Bosses ARE too easy to get to, and too easy to kill at the moment. Like mirtiger said earlier - the biggest bit of fun during hunts for me was allways getting TO the boss, making sure your tao stayed alive, and you held enough pots back for the kill.
Just RTing to a boss room. then mindlessly smacking it for 60 seconds, then TTing -- rinse repeat. Thsi is jsut a plain boring playstyle. Fighting to the boss is the fun bit.
/Mark
because the other even bigger guild camps it you mean
and it drops much better than bosses that are more difficult to reach
like phawk said rt ride smack a few times rinse repeat for days n days thats if you have enough guild member to be hunting for orbs
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- Feb 4, 2014
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the post was started purely for diffulculties encountered in taming for wizzes, the FB is irrelevant . Increase spawn rate on 2nd 10 fold but why should wizards be targeted just because you all want a harder run to the FB.Its not good enough imo to revamp current maps/bosses to suit existing players,the challenges should come with new content/harder NEW bosses or stagnation/boredom will only ensue.
I think it's a good point MirTiger and yourself make, but once players become a certain level and get good kit, they no longer need to keep clearing full caves. For many of the current userbase, I would imagine that this change hasn't really effected them. Their gear and levels mean it is fairly easy for them to either run or kill only what's needed.
A change like this would have been perfectly fine when FB was first being hunted, but so far into the server when players are already loaded with gear it's tougher on the weaker guilds and players.
New content being added (I'm aware it is being worked on) should and would have been the correct move for this situation as the "bigger" guilds will move on to new pastures leaving this boss for the "weaker" guilds, without there having been any advantage over the past months gained by the guilds that hunted FB whilst it was easy/easier to get to.
Back to the post I quoted, that is what made mir so much fun in the beginning. Getting yourself in a guild or a group and hunting through caves for exp and maybe a lucky drop before getting to a boss., but the way to bring that back shouldn't be too change current content making it harder for players that were unable to benefit prior to a change that should have been made months back.
Phawk, you will never see me say I want it like euro. I played euro for 5 weeks and got bored.
as someone else said this is not about fox boss.
Anyway why not just add a new cave that cannot be rt'd at all. The. Introduce a new harder boss for people.
Whats going on in Hell? I haven't even seen that boss listed on anyone's hunting lists.
as someone else said this is not about fox boss.
Anyway why not just add a new cave that cannot be rt'd at all. The. Introduce a new harder boss for people.
Whats going on in Hell? I haven't even seen that boss listed on anyone's hunting lists.
Good points
but the only single guild who camped and farmed Fox Boss didnt have fun or work together to get there.
That this good dropping boss was such an easy boring rinse repeat thing should have been mentioned months/weeks ago It wasn't, even by the mod in the guild rinsing and repeating.
Lower levels can now have fun getting thru getting exp a learning group play. Once high enough thy o have to kill thru.
I don't care about solo players its a group game.
Can wizzies tame most lower level bosses? Khaz/Crystal Spider/Frost Tiger? I think Hocus is right. We need to think of the lower levels here, with a lack of bosses to kill in order to catch up with kit and money, they are left behind, I think removing the taming of any bosses/sub-bosses would be a great start.
Thank you hocus for bringing this to my attention.
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Thank you hocus for bringing this to my attention.
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As a low lvl wiz (39) I just want to make clear it's impossible for me to tame yellow frogs solo, the foxes destroy me and I have to TT as soon as I get into trouble - I've only ever managed to tame 1 frog by myself in there, as soon as I hit one and if a fox is nearby the fox comes over and nails me.. pets for a wizard is a key part of their game, it's a shame they are near impossible to get for lvling. I like the idea of having the frogs spawn on the outside rather than foxes.
As far as I'm aware there are no decent pets whatsoever for me to tame other than the yellow frogs, browns are 41 and blue ones are 44 I believe.. other than those 3 mobs there is nothing else decent enough for wizzies to use for lvling. I remember in euro where venoms were decent, I tried them and they are completely useless.
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Also, has there been any movement on keeping pets after a lagout? I just spend God knows how long taming those yellow frogs (with some help in the end as I was failing solo) and then lvling them only to tele to Numa, rt a few times and lag out.. I know lag isn't always the server teams fault but it's incredibly frustrating spending all that time to prep to lvl only to lose them all, it's ruined the lvling I had planned tonight and theres no way im spending another hour doing that crap again.
It would be great to have some feedback from the GMs/Server Team please
As far as I'm aware there are no decent pets whatsoever for me to tame other than the yellow frogs, browns are 41 and blue ones are 44 I believe.. other than those 3 mobs there is nothing else decent enough for wizzies to use for lvling. I remember in euro where venoms were decent, I tried them and they are completely useless.
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Also, has there been any movement on keeping pets after a lagout? I just spend God knows how long taming those yellow frogs (with some help in the end as I was failing solo) and then lvling them only to tele to Numa, rt a few times and lag out.. I know lag isn't always the server teams fault but it's incredibly frustrating spending all that time to prep to lvl only to lose them all, it's ruined the lvling I had planned tonight and theres no way im spending another hour doing that crap again.
It would be great to have some feedback from the GMs/Server Team please
Just throwing this question out there so please nobody go off on one.
Are wizards not powerfull enough without having easy to gain and unlimited pets?
I'm mean magic boost, FF, blizzard, MS and also 5 pets that when in safezone do not time out and if added they are not lost on log out?
That all seems way way way OP to me
BH
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Not sure that justification works BH, once wizzies have those spells they rarely need the pets and don't have a problem dealing with the foxes. The lvl39 wizzies like Jamole who don't have any of those skills are being shafted abit.
Currently fox cave is next to no hindrance to the OP wizzies, but a massive one to those lower lvl. Seems abit backwards punishing the lowbies because the OP wizzies are OP. Then again, the server does almost always favour the 5% at the top and never looks to balance the gap.
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I don't have FF, Blizz or Magic Booster and doubt I will get any of these either.. Does that make me over powered? Why not either amend these spells to do less damage or pets do less damage to players rather than mobs.
You can't base wizards being overpowered by a small % of high lvl players on the server who have the gear and the spells. As you're part of the development team for this server, maybe you should look to amend things slightly in order to balance things out? You've just stated how wizards are overpowered as it is - imagine the likes of lkira with 5 blue frogs in pvp too.. majority of high lvl wizzies don't pvp with pets, why? Because 1)it takes forever to tame the things and 2) because they don't need them anyway
I'm sure you can amend the pets damage to deal less against players?
I still say making the pets not die on log out will just make things worse as the high level wizards will tame and have them all the time along with their skills.
Yes maybe it should be made a little easier to find and tame them but I still say allowing any level wizard to keep pets after a log out in unfair
Once they are tamed you have a solid 2 hours with them and if you need to go afk you can rest in a safezone and not lose any time
BH
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I understand about the logging out side of things, it's just frustrating when you spend a lot of time taming and then lvling them just to lag out and lose them, I wouldn't mind so much if it was easier for us to tame them in the first place. I can't even tame 2 lvl 36 pets solo, it just doesn't make sense on having to rely on help from the guild to tame pets. Surely something can be done?
I think punishing the majority % of wizards because a handful of others have the big spells/gear is unfair. We should be able to lvl solo comfortably and feasibly by using pets - solo lvling without pets just isn't practical and a lot harder.
BH everyone can be considered OP with enough levels. What you have pointed out as OP is a level 52+ wizard. How many of them take pets now?
low level wizards want to tame pets. It's kinda fun if it's a good system. With all the stability issues this server gets because of its popularity this should be something you consider seriously instead of holding mir back.
Look ok at the servers that has this feature. Does anyone complain about it on them servers? You have already made some decent pets only one at a time. Level 44 is the max level for effective pets.
BH you could even give the pets a 1 hour limit of staying alive whilst logged out. That wouldn't hurt anyone.
We we are mostly adults now that play this game. There are more important things than staying on the game for 2 hours straight. Give some thought to that. It was half decent when we where kids.
low level wizards want to tame pets. It's kinda fun if it's a good system. With all the stability issues this server gets because of its popularity this should be something you consider seriously instead of holding mir back.
Look ok at the servers that has this feature. Does anyone complain about it on them servers? You have already made some decent pets only one at a time. Level 44 is the max level for effective pets.
BH you could even give the pets a 1 hour limit of staying alive whilst logged out. That wouldn't hurt anyone.
We we are mostly adults now that play this game. There are more important things than staying on the game for 2 hours straight. Give some thought to that. It was half decent when we where kids.
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