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The thing is it is good endgame. There's no game that comes close to it.

Endgame is where the fun is at, teamwork and the challenges are far better than levelling.

Post you char, that has cleared all the content and got Brutal Gladiator titles and I will agree WoW requires no skill.

Yes it's not as random and theres far more grinding than in the SS v TM days. But to be honest, it wasn't much different then, infact there was nothing to do which is why those fights existed.

The only thing I miss is 40man raids, apart from that the new expansion has been very good.

All i can say to that is LOL. Seriously. The average level 70 pre WOTLK spent around 8hours A DAY in an arena or BG. How pathetic. 8hours of outdoor PVP would be amazing.

Oh yeah, no game close to WoW? People say this as they are too nooby too look at the mmo site.

Try checking Darkfall. "Warning this game is not for noobs who cry when they die as they loose all their kit, equipts and bag"

This game requires true skill range from building towns to basically you control your sword movement and you AIM your spells.

Darkfall will change MMO'S!

Oh and on WoW i have - 80 priest, 70 warrior, 70 hunter, 67 paladin, 65 deathknight, 60 hunter, 60 shaman, 54 warlock, 29 twink rogue, 29 twink warrior. They are my best chars.

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Oh and on WoW i have - 80 priest, 70 warrior, 70 hunter, 67 paladin, 65 deathknight, 60 hunter, 60 shaman, 54 warlock, 29 twink rogue, 29 twink warrior. They are my best chars.

/kizza

So I assume they all have gladiator titles then? Seeing as it requires so little skill. I guess the 2 twinks are super skillful as well?

And if you thing Arena is about 8 hours a day grinding then you are very wrong.

Yes, Darkfall does look pretty good, but it's not even released yet. It's an entirely different concept and can hardly be compared to WoW. Personally I think it won't be anywhere as good as everybody thinks. Reminds me of Shadowbane, which failed massively. Oblivion style fighting, lets hope they can do better or it will be another who can click faster game.
 
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All i can say to that is LOL. Seriously. The average level 70 pre WOTLK spent around 8hours A DAY in an arena or BG. How pathetic. 8hours of outdoor PVP would be amazing.

Oh yeah, no game close to WoW? People say this as they are too nooby too look at the mmo site.

Try checking Darkfall. "Warning this game is not for noobs who cry when they die as they loose all their kit, equipts and bag"

This game requires true skill range from building towns to basically you control your sword movement and you AIM your spells.

Darkfall will change MMO'S!

Oh and on WoW i have - 80 priest, 70 warrior, 70 hunter, 67 paladin, 65 deathknight, 60 hunter, 60 shaman, 54 warlock, 29 twink rogue, 29 twink warrior. They are my best chars

/kizza

so you bought wotlk got 80 then started complaining... hmmmmm.... also like armoury profiles because i really dont belive you have them chars, if you do then i will apologise but until i see some form of proof then you've just been lying and have no experience of the game at all... also its not all about arena and bg... you ever done a raid? ... you know one of those things where 25 players colabirate [spelling] to reach a goal... [sorry about the 25man i didnt play pre-tbc] ... Also people that have twinks are generally assholes so glad your living up to your reputation if you acctually have those chars ^_^

Also Darkfall seems somewhat flawed just by looking @ this:

"There’s alignment in Darkfall?
Yes there is. You start out with a neutral alignment, and based on your actions, this alignment changes. Turning evil is easy, although it doesn’t make for an easy life. Killing other characters unprovoked will get you there fast and this will make most guards, clans and other players attack you on sight. Changing your alignment towards good is a challenging and difficult process"

so basically if you want to be evil.... well shame you HAVE to be good to progress in this game.




"What about character classes? How does character development work in Darkfall?
The rule is that there are no traditional character classes, or templates. We want to give the players total control of what and how they want to play. Customize your own character to suit your playing style best, without traditional templates to limit you. If you want to be an axe wielding Dwarven fighter you simply pick up the Axe skill, Axe Mastery, Parry, Dodge, Cleave and other linked skills. If you later decide that some magic would be nice as support, you pick up a few magic skills and spells as well. The same goes for trade skills. Want to be able to create weapons? Pick up Smithing and Weapon Crafting. Want to make clothing or work as a tailor for a while? Pick up Tailoring. No need to re-roll your character.
There is no way to "gimp" your character by picking the "wrong" skills or spells.
Get what you want, play as you want.
That being said - There is an option available to follow a class system: the Prestige classes described below."

So basically after a while you will be a master in everything? , would be good to see how this will pan out. "i wanna be an sword,bow,axe,spear,polearm wielding, spell casting, healing, weapon smithing, armour making god."
 
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If you dont believe me i can gtive you the names of my characters. I've played WoW since release.

Guys, im sure there are people with at least 20 level 70's out there. I got bored made some new characters and got them to high levels.

Also in darkfall, if someone has max level skill in everything, they can be taken out by about 5 people who have played the game for a few months... Thats how even and skill required PVP will be.

Also Liandrin2 - I said arena's and BG. Read before you post silly stuff.

/kizza
 
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It's perfectly reasonable to have those sorts of chars these days tbh.

When I wanted a resto drood for arena took me less than a month to get it 70, now think if you have been playing for 4 years (even when it was harder to lvl).
 

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Lol, just because I have a few high leveled characters you assume i'm lieing? Ok.. Fair enough..

But back in the first days of WoW people leveled in parties all the time. This increased the quest rate, as you were doing them faster, exp, and ultimately fun.

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Lol, just because I have a few high leveled characters you assume i'm lieing? Ok.. Fair enough..

But back in the first days of WoW people leveled in parties all the time. This increased the quest rate, as you were doing them faster, exp, and ultimately fun.

/kizza
its just that some 1 that says its a **** game cant possible have chars like that , thats why we can tell your lieing m8
 

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Leveling is trivial nowadays, with RaF I managed 62 in 2days played, and that wasn't aiming for any kind of target.
 

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We are not saying leveling is super hard we are just saying someone with that opinion of the game wouldent have the chars they claim to have.
 

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We are not saying leveling is super hard we are just saying someone with that opinion of the game wouldent have the chars they claim to have.

I've tryed the endgame in all of the expansions throughout WoW all have been boring in my opinion. I love the WoW leveling, nothing ATM compares to it. Hence the fact i have lots of characters.

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endgame still takes skill to be good at. a lot of the big bosses need people with fast reactions and a brain to get them through the situation they're in. examples are heigan and sapph in naxx, both take people that are quick and have the skill to avoid instant death.

it's the same for pvp, you say it takes no skill, probably because you haven't put the effort in to getting gear, but even if people have gear you can still be beat by people with bad gear. I've lost to people 5 levels lower than me with skill, but I've also beat 2 or 3 well geared players at a single time, all depends how you read the situation and adapt to it.

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endgame still takes skill to be good at. a lot of the big bosses need people with fast reactions and a brain to get them through the situation they're in. examples are heigan and sapph in naxx, both take people that are quick and have the skill to avoid instant death.

it's the same for pvp, you say it takes no skill, probably because you haven't put the effort in to getting gear, but even if people have gear you can still be beat by people with bad gear. I've lost to people 5 levels lower than me with skill, but I've also beat 2 or 3 well geared players at a single time, all depends how you read the situation and adapt to it.

I really should stop posting from my iPod.

It's limited skill.

While i do admit, not everybody has the basic skills to complete a boss, their actualy never that tough. Moving your character to the right by 3 strides isn't skill. It's just clicking a button when something shows on a screen.

Although, saying that.. I guess you could say the same about any game. Maybe skill is based around reaction time?

Hey Paul, you addicted to WOW now then? Sorry i got you into that stuff lol.

/Ash
 

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iam a lvl 13 rogue i own you all lol noobs.

/sykesy laughin skul

if any1 wanna take me lvling just pm me , beware my gf may be on lol

iam enjoying game but hardly any1 wanna party does this change later on????
 

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iam a lvl 13 rogue i own you all lol noobs.

/sykesy laughin skul

if any1 wanna take me lvling just pm me , beware my gf may be on lol

iam enjoying game but hardly any1 wanna party does this change later on????
 

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Yeah it does change alot. Just keep going and you'll meet new people.

Btw people, all i was saying is the endgame in WoW sucks, the story and leveling and area's are just awesome, thats the only reason i went back for WOTLK.

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Kizza- Lol kizza, make ure mind up. Wow Owns, I love it. Im just getting my char plvled from 30-55, yeah lazy i know. But i want to make a DeathKnight. Thats what ive wanted to do for AGES. Ive played privates and i know my way around a DK. How is it bad at Endgame? And is there a Endgame? New Expansions, New Levels Etc Etc Etc. There can never be a "EndGame" There can be a Expansion Completion. But Never a EndGame on a MMO. Because the game is constantly updated. And why do your posts always say "WoW is crap" And if you did get to your "EndGame" How come you only have lvl 70s? Have you really got them? Because if you had experienced the "EndGame" you would of at least had 1 level 80. So i think your bull****ting to get in with the crowd. No offense but thats my opinion. But im loving the game atm.

Shady- I will add you on MSN Soon mate ;) When i get my char back from PLvling ill come and play wid u :D Always love grouping up even if its taking lower levels. WoW is boring when you do everything on your own. Thats why i LOVE Grouping up lol. Its uber having friends to do dungeons or bosses or just plain quests or grinding. Its awesome. You need friends in wow or you wont get anywhere and you'll just get bored. And of Course your welcome in the guild as wasnt there a motto for ASDA or something? "Every little helps" And Plus on that, no1 is too low :). Its a group of friends isnt it Not a raiding etc guild. We are here to have fun aint we ^_^

Ive had my say ;)