Level cap is needed?

[Tom27]

Whoever is trying to rationalise level caps - you're fighting a losing battle.

This is an online game that the higher you get, the more ridiculously hard and gruelling it is to level. Why make a cap?

Saying there should be a cap is basically saying that you can't be arsed to level, but you don't want to fall behind because of it.

Personally once I got to lvl 43 in Ace M2 I couldn't be bothered to level anymore and just went to bosses, but to ask for a cap for others so I couldn't fall too far behind is completely ridiculous.

People choose to play how they want to. Some people don't want to kill bosses and want to grind, some want to PK, some want to kill bosses, some want to solo level, some want to group hunt; thats the beauty of this game and the reason people remain to play it.

Seriously, if you want a level cap, go and buy Pokemon.

This is a stupid a$$ thread and it should be closed.

EDIT: After re-reading the post I must reiterate that this is a stupid and useless idea. If I had time I would go through the points one by one but literally every argument FOR the cap is baseless. **** you all for wasting my time

Well said.

 

[Swifty]

Once you hit level 42/43/44 levelling should become a serious grind.
I got to level 50 towards the end of v1, and after a few days looked at my exp bar and was like "oh 15%...". should have been more like "0.8%... jeez" or tbh i shouldnt have even reached 50!

 

[Nec.]

Just no.

Rather see the x12 or whatever it was, changed to something less..

 

[jez]

Lvl caps are for fags who cba and want everything handed on a plate. You need something to work towards to keep the game interesting. lvl 50 + items just out of reach till you grind a bit more etc.
Put a lvl cap in and mir becomes the same as all the others, GW2, WOW etc etc.

Open pvp and no lvl cap are what help to make mir great!

 

[bayya]

OK OK I partly agree but you did not understand what I was after.
Out levelling the server contents seems to happen to a lot of servers.
I am tired of seeing the same people geeking(and I know they pay others to level the char or buy a already levelled one) to be highest on the server so they can make out they are good players.
They aren't particularly good just levels higher and with skill books others havent got yet. I would like to delay these people. That is all.
That is why I did not suggest a permanent level cap just delaying tactics

Mir is fast pc and good connection the only other advantage(if connection slow) is being many levels higher then most other players.

 

[NejDaTurk]

Out levelling the server contents seems to happen to a lot of servers.
I am tired of seeing the same people geeking(and I know they pay others to level the char or buy a already levelled one) to be highest on the server so they can make out they are good players.

So just reduce the rate of levelling then. A far more sensible and less drastic move than a level cap. Level caps never work on Mir.

Why does it bother you if people make out they are good players? If they're not, then just kill them. It'll be easy if they're bad, regardless of level.

 

[FUTURA]

OK OK I partly agree but you did not understand what I was after.
Out levelling the server contents seems to happen to a lot of servers.
I am tired of seeing the same people geeking(and I know they pay others to level the char or buy a already levelled one) to be highest on the server so they can make out they are good players.
They aren't particularly good just levels higher and with skill books others havent got yet. I would like to delay these people. That is all.
That is why I did not suggest a permanent level cap just delaying tactics

Mir is fast pc and good connection the only other advantage(if connection slow) is being many levels higher then most other players.

Again, ridiculous. Just stop mate. Mod should close this to save everyone from reading this drivel.

 

[jez]

I am tired of seeing the same people geeking(and I know they pay others to level the char or buy a already levelled one) to be highest on the server so they can make out they are good players.

This made me lol, utter bollox but funny. Some of the very best players were the highest lvls. they can grind as well as fight.

Mir is fast pc and good connection the only other advantage(if connection slow) is being many levels higher then most other players.

This is another of those sweeping statements that just aint true. Some players are wayyy more skilled than others. fast Pc/Ping/connection may help but its not the be all and end all by any means!

 

[Turrican]

i dont think a cap is needed but at some point leveling should become much slower, this allows people to catch up so most of user count is around the same level.

 

[Sanity]

I think a cap is the best suggestion mentioned so far for the v2, most games these days have level caps and increase them over time, this keeps the player base around the same level, which is great for PVP terms and probably the main reason is it will help sam more then he knows, maintaining the server and the current bugs.
Also imo will keep a better usercount, you have those who are waiting for the next update to increase cap and new players who get attracted knowing they can catch up.

But if you do add a cap you have to give those player who reach it something to do and imo and what's been missing from MIR is PVE/PVP gear which means you need to introduce PVE/PVP stat.

Some might disagree but ACEM2 is just like any other version of MIR, fook all to do apart from level and PVP, need to give people something eles to aim for.

 

[DeadGirl]

I think a cap is the best suggestion mentioned so far for the v2, most games these days have level caps and increase them over time, this keeps the player base around the same level, which is great for PVP terms and probably the main reason is it will help sam more then he knows, maintaining the server and the current bugs.
Also imo will keep a better usercount, you have those who are waiting for the next update to increase cap and new players who get attracted knowing they can catch up.

Surprised this came from you, considering leveling was your favorite thing to do. How would you have felt when you got to 40 and couldn't level more? We would have lost you 10 levels sooner :P

But if you do add a cap you have to give those player who reach it something to do and imo and what's been missing from MIR is PVE/PVP gear which means you need to introduce PVE/PVP stat.

Some might disagree but ACEM2 is just like any other version of MIR, fook all to do apart from level and PVP, need to give people something eles to aim for.

Surprised this came from you, considering leveling was your favorite thing to do. How would you have felt when you got to 40 and couldn't level more? We would have lost you 10 levels sooner :P

 

[d1craig]

just because on official you didnt have doesnt mean it aint a good/the best option. like has been mentioned maybe a soft cap?

i rember ragezone highrate, it was so easy to get 50 and even 55 but after that you played for weeks without even getting 1 level but on here (not a highrate) you can get level 55 and higher in a reasonable amount of time.... that is the biggest problem for me.

i am thinking maybe all these people that dont like the idea of a level cap dont like it because it would mean killing stuff in the kingroom would only be beneficial for poor normal mob drops and not exp.

also out levelling content removes alot of the skill from the content, if a zone level cap was introduced and nothing was added for people above a certain level say 55.
so if you are under 55 you can play normal and hunt all the bosses but once you get past it you lose the right to fight the bosses. this would combat out levelling stuff so it becomes too easy.

 

[FUTURA]

Yeesh - "everyone being level 40 is good for pvp" Oh, really? And connection speed/PC has nothing to do with it? I have seen high levels get battered by people alot lower than them due to this. So - FALSE.

"keep people interested" - oh really? Based on the last time we had TONS of new content on a weekly basis? FALSE and leads me onto my next point:

"Take the pressure off sam" - oh really? So you're assuming again that this poor chap is going to have to go to work during the day, come home and spend the evening creating weekly content that keeps these level 40's happy? What about when everything is delayed, and everyone is stuck at 40? I guarantee everyone will bitch their tits off. Also, "help maintain the server and fix bugs" - why would a cap do that? Because everyone will be fannying off killing bosses? Thou art illogical - FALSE and FALSE.

You know what I can't be bothered to write anymore. Once again people talking without a firm grasp of reality. Enjoy la la land, mother ****ers.

 

[jez]

so when we have this wonderful lvl cap we just take shoulder dash and repulse etc out the game do we? coz wen were all lvl 40 it wont work.
And wen some priks stood on your nice drop you just ask nicely for them to move along do ya.

not to mention all the spell lvls that would need changing etc, mobs that tu or tame at certain lvls would need altering down etc etc.

Seriously, theres some utter shyte written in this thread!

 

[Liandrin2]

Diablo 3s paragon system would work well, probably quite a bit of extra development time sadly though.

 

[WildGirl]

Seriously, theres some utter shyte written in this thread!

Hilarious never the less.

The Troll in me is fighting to come out by reading it.

 

[Sanity]

Yeesh - "everyone being level 40 is good for pvp" Oh, really? And connection speed/PC has nothing to do with it? I have seen high levels get battered by people alot lower than them due to this. So - FALSE.

"keep people interested" - oh really? Based on the last time we had TONS of new content on a weekly basis? FALSE and leads me onto my next point:

"Take the pressure off sam" - oh really? So you're assuming again that this poor chap is going to have to go to work during the day, come home and spend the evening creating weekly content that keeps these level 40's happy? What about when everything is delayed, and everyone is stuck at 40? I guarantee everyone will bitch their tits off. Also, "help maintain the server and fix bugs" - why would a cap do that? Because everyone will be fannying off killing bosses? Thou art illogical - FALSE and FALSE.

You know what I can't be bothered to write anymore. Once again people talking without a firm grasp of reality. Enjoy la la land, mother ****ers.

1. Internet connection is your own fault not the servers.

2. Taking the pressure of Sam? Why? People don't out level the content so early on and request more, Sam won't have to deal with bugs when a couple of people hit 50+ and most of the server is around 40.

If a cap is bad then why do every single modern mmorpg have them? But what am also saying is if a cap is added sam would really need spend time working on stuff which people can do when they hit cap. I said it a lot but you have to introduce PVE/PVP gear, that means adding new stats PVE attack and defense and PVP attack and defense, it will bring a new life to Mir imo.

I won't be playing but i just thought id give my 2cents on why a cap which benefit this server, as DG said above all i did was level and reason for that is because that was all there was to do which led me to quit in the end, no point leveling up with no goal in sight, it's just ridiculous and pointless.

 

[Tyraes]

I said it a lot but you have to introduce PVE/PVP gear, that means adding new stats PVE attack and defense and PVP attack and defense, it will bring a new life to Mir imo.

This is exactly what WoW did and look how seperated the PvP and PvE scenes are. Two lots of gear for two seperate scenes. Mir is good because of how well the PvP and PvE scenes mix up.

I think a cap shouldn't be put in place either. If people want to out run the content then that's their choice.

 

[FUTURA]

1. Internet connection is your own fault not the servers.

2. Taking the pressure of Sam? Why? People don't out level the content so early on and request more, Sam won't have to deal with bugs when a couple of people hit 50+ and most of the server is around 40.

If a cap is bad then why do every single modern mmorpg have them? But what am also saying is if a cap is added sam would really need spend time working on stuff which people can do when they hit cap. I said it a lot but you have to introduce PVE/PVP gear, that means adding new stats PVE attack and defense and PVP attack and defense, it will bring a new life to Mir imo.

I won't be playing but i just thought id give my 2cents on why a cap which benefit this server, as DG said above all i did was level and reason for that is because that was all there was to do which led me to quit in the end, no point leveling up with no goal in sight, it's just ridiculous and pointless.

1. Exactly...so a level 40 cap is irrelevant.

2. Take two scenarios:

Scenario A: Level cap, and everyone is level 40. Sam feels the pressure of adding new content to keep level 40's occupied. People can't level in the meantime, which is additionally frustrating (you said yourself, "above all i did was level and reason for that is because that was all there was to do").;

Scenario B: No level cap. Sam feels the pressure of adding new content to keep up with levels. People can level in the meantime, so whilst frustrated at the lack of content, at least there is something to do.

Both scenarios mean Sam feels the pressure, however B means less frustration.

3. This isn't a modern MMORPG. What you're suggesting is rewriting the fundamentals of the game by introducing PVP gear. No-one has the time or the patience to do such a thing. Small example of an issue, what happens if a guild runs to a boss KR in PVP gear and annihilates everyone that didn't wear their PVP defense?

Sorry for the scenario bullshit I know I must look like a twat but I'm bored at work again

 

[d1craig]

I see the points your are making about sams time being divided more with a cap than without and partly agree. But I still think a cap ( preferably a soft cap ( once a certain level is reach exp required multiplies massively )).

I'm sure pvp stats are/where on bens server ( Oldskool ). And yea it does beg the question "what's the point in normal gear without pvp stats if you can bump into someone in pvp gear while hunting?"

EDIT - **** me the typos whilst on my phone are a joke lol