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slayer1219

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  • Infernal Soldier no longer uses its range attack in PvP should increase its movement if it become melee
 

pwnage

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  • Infernal Soldier no longer uses its range attack in PvP should increase its movement if it become melee

Think it should just do less dmg vs players if its an issue not remove its ranged attack all together. Increasing its movement speed would make demon explosion even more of a nightmare
 

hermon

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with the addition of a strong boss like Icetiger, it would be nice to increase group to at least 30 ppl, SP made 2 groups to kill and only 1 got to drop, does not seem fair to me.
 

Sedge

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with the addition of a strong boss like Icetiger, it would be nice to increase group to at least 30 ppl, SP made 2 groups to kill and only 1 got to drop, does not seem fair to me.

Make another guild to compete for drops then.
 

thedeath

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mhh i have to admit 3 huntgold limit seems excessive low :(
i hit the huntgold limit just running to sw to get a weapon out of refine :(
makes the server a tiny bit on the edge of p2w now
would have prefered seeing it go to 10 or something

(also means going mining is totaly out of the question now lol)
 

Kazababy

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mhh i have to admit 3 huntgold limit seems excessive low :(
i hit the huntgold limit just running to sw to get a weapon out of refine :(
makes the server a tiny bit on the edge of p2w now
would have prefered seeing it go to 10 or something

(also means going mining is totaly out of the question now lol)

What does reducing the hunt gold cap actually do? It doesnt deter people from botting as they always earn the same as before, it only really hurts the regular player?

What was the purpose of this other than to force people into donating more? Clarity needed @Jamie
 

irene

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What does reducing the hunt gold cap actually do? It doesnt deter people from botting as they always earn the same as before, it only really hurts the regular player?

What was the purpose of this other than to force people into donating more? Clarity needed @Jamie

bots can, kill use rt, kill, rt.... This cap dont stop bots, i think this is to increase donate.
 

DonKiddick

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can huntgold be set per map?

Mines = 3 - easy /fast to tt and get back to reset.
Lair/JT4th+/ BP4th/ MysteryShip etc = 30 - these places mean you are actually going somewhere to do something for a longish period of time..meaning 3hunt gold is a bit pants.
 

DarkSacred

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can huntgold be set per map?

Mines = 3 - easy /fast to tt and get back to reset.
Lair/JT4th+/ BP4th/ MysteryShip etc = 30 - these places mean you are actually going somewhere to do something for a longish period of time..meaning 3hunt gold is a bit pants.

It's no different than before.

30 minutes outside of SZ = 30 GG
30 minutes outside of SZ now still = 30 GG

Only different is you've actually gotta be killing to keep the hunt gold rolling in. If it's taking you almost 4 minutes to put a lure together what exactly are you doing?

The only class this potentially has a negative effect on would be Wizards in Snow who take longer to put a lure together, but they still have access to the same amount of hunt hold as before, you just can't store it up so they have to decide do they want the biggest lure but possible lose out on 1-2 hunt gold. Or smaller lures but always cap hunt gold?
 

Kazababy

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I love refining so I mine a lot, now I feel like I just can’t mine while being semi afk. Ditto with kinda being semi afk while playing at work, feel like overall I will just end up playing less.

My question is, was this done to counter bitters or was it done to try to force the average player to donate more?
 

irene

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I love refining so I mine a lot, now I feel like I just can’t mine while being semi afk. Ditto with kinda being semi afk while playing at work, feel like overall I will just end up playing less.

My question is, was this done to counter bitters or was it done to try to force the average player to donate more?

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force the average player to donate more
 

Chalace

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What correlation am i missing between botting and hunt gold?

If you are botting you gain 1 HG per minute, before you would still gain 1 HG per minute, bots never did benefit from the inactive stacking... so the change has nothing to do with bots?
 

Jamie

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I love refining so I mine a lot, now I feel like I just can’t mine while being semi afk. Ditto with kinda being semi afk while playing at work, feel like overall I will just end up playing less.

My question is, was this done to counter bitters or was it done to try to force the average player to donate more?

To combat the AFK Game Gold Farming, I may look at the option to make Mining Pause buffs same for Sabuk Wall, but that'll be next maintenance at the earliest.
 

Shane/Banshee

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What correlation am i missing between botting and hunt gold?

If you are botting you gain 1 HG per minute, before you would still gain 1 HG per minute, bots never did benefit from the inactive stacking... so the change has nothing to do with bots?

Correct it’s to stop the afking stacking 30 hunt gold and killing mobs. It was also creating to many look at this guy afking in mobs swinging in mid air, must be a bot BS.

its now hunt gold where you need to hunt for it which I think is fair.
 

<SOSO>

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They usually farm ants with macros so they will be uneffected by this (rt, hit, wait few sec > repeat), while the normal players are (if u need to get to a place say F5 and rt's don't work, u will have to stop kill 3 mobs thn run again and so on. Until now by the time we've reached the destination (for example F5 or F6) we already had like 15 gamegold waiting to be collected when we start killing.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I can play like this, I`ll just adjust my playstyle and stop every couple mins to kill 1-2 mobs. I`m just saying that it affects us more thn the ppl who're exploiting and hunt caves like ants and fleas rt'ing about and killing ****.

They could have like 1 guy semi-afk watching over 3-4 PC's @ the same time, hence their reaction is slower.
 

Shane/Banshee

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They usually farm ants with macros so they will be uneffected by this (rt, hit, wait few sec > repeat), while the normal players are (if u need to get to a place say F5 and rt's don't work, u will have to stop kill 3 mobs thn run again and so on. Until now by the time we've reached the destination (for example F5 or F6) we already had like 15 gamegold waiting to be collected when we start killing.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I can play like this, I`ll just adjust my playstyle and stop every couple mins to kill 1-2 mobs. I`m just saying that it affects us more thn the ppl who're exploiting and hunt caves like ants and fleas rt'ing about and killing ****.

They could have like 1 guy semi-afk watching over 3-4 PC's @ the same time, hence their reaction is slower.


people you mention are actively now being made to stop. 3 last night have certain privileges removed from them.
 

<SOSO>

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While I'm glad that this issue has been addressed, the bigger problem was the gold farmed like this, not the hunt gold. They've farmed hundred of millions by this time, I was watching some noob chars who @ lvl 50 had red horse waiting for them. Those chars don't know where ant cave is on the map. I understand it's a delicate subject and that this is a business, but something needs to be done about these 20h / day gold farmer chars.
 

ventus

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Don't like this hunt gold change, it was fine how it was. This change doesnt make a difference for botters, they will still be gather that hunt gold. Botters grinding gold is the problem here not hunts gold.
Be careful with changes like this, its one of the reasons people love playing here. Gotta keep that usercount up or else the servers done no matter what features you put in.
 
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thedeath

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heh was just randomly observing cashcow:
he tt'd to repair /sell pots
every 20 seconds he cast renounce in town (even tho it's a near 2minute spell)
5seconds after his shield died he cast shield

(and all this while he was in town walking between shops to repair/buy things)
at least makes it obvious he has the skill macro's, not saying he's a 100% bot but :p