Marble V2 [Discussion]

  • Remember! Never use the same account usernames and password across different servers!
Mu online season 21 - grand opening

Hurricane

LOM2 - Code Services
Dedicated Member
Hurricane
Game Master
Oct 25, 2018
610
1
484
105
All you need to do is have his discord activity turned on and sit in safe zone in game afk….

Surely if you were against “AFK mechanics” the system wouldn’t count players sat in any safe zone or idled outside of sz for x amount of time
As I mentioned earlier the purpose of Discord activity is mainly to advertise the game and let more people see it which isn’t a bad idea. People being AFK while tracking doesn’t really inflate anything since they’re logging their main character, not 20 alts to artificially boost UC. Honestly idgaf about UC numbers as long as the game has a decent amount of players logging in, playing, and enjoying themselves. So I don’t get why you lot are so bothered about the numbers!!
 

JoeDunn

Banned
Banned
Veteran
Jun 16, 2009
1,081
162
149
While people have their own opinions on the matter, Abusive messages towards Staff will not be tolerated.
No worries, It is what it is.

I suspect Auto play will be a big thing going forward for other servers (once they create it), so I'll not bother changing the source and just keep usercount hidden.

I also get to save on £10 a month this way
Still throwing your toys out the pram lil boy. Proven me right yet again what kind of person you really are :D
Rat GIF by MOODMAN


Right, but they are not human players, which is what the list is designed to display.

As you know, it’s difficult to have rules for it when people are forever trying to flout them and inflate it. Can’t we all just be honest?

Other servers have been removed for being full of miners or stalls too, it is nothing personal at all. Just trying to do what’s right.
Thank you for taking care of the issue it was simple after all. i apologise for being a dick i could have been nice but ive tried that and it was ignored several times. Some times kicking off and causing a storm is the only way things get fixed and made better. Ill take all the **** that comes with it if it means this game and community doesn't get abused by people like Jamie.

Now all you server owners need to do is bang your heads together and stop paid levels and its as simple as locking accounts to a single ip address for x hours after logging off am sure one of you could whip something up with in a few hours and pass it around. I really don't wanna cause another **** show, so please just listen this time.

To the clowns defending Jamie hows his dick feel inside you? does it even touch the sides anymore.
Post automatically merged:

This.

@Tai step down and make me admin. I want to ban this guy.

I don't know why you allow all this dumb drama. I don't like servers with any auto playing features but Jamie has been open about this since the beginning, this is how the server is made. Period. When we've banned people before it was because of scams of shady stuff going on.
as for you? you see it as dumb drama i see it as killing the game we all love, its a shame you don't care about the game the same way anymore. you're a very sad sad little boy with an inferiority complex. just admit i was right now thank you and goodbye clown
Post automatically merged:

@JoeDunn how are you not banned yet 🤦‍♂️

While I don’t agree with the user count situation but it’s bound to happen, anyone who thinks that a server has genuine 600 players are deluded.

Jamie has brought 3? Consistent servers online which has always done well. People donate, but people also donate on the other cash cow servers which are floating around. So what Jamie earns money from his projects? Like every other server available
I speak the truth lil boy i don't play nice or mince my words to not hurt the feelings of dick riders like you when its something i care about, but i guess your just another that owes me an apology
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Flashy

Flashy

LOMCN Member
Nov 4, 2022
91
59
20
Still throwing your toys out the pram lil boy. Proven me right yet again what kind of person you really are :D
Rat GIF by MOODMAN



Thank you for taking care of the issue it was simple after all. i apologise for being a dick i could have been nice but ive tried that and it was ignored several times. Some times kicking off and causing a storm is the only way things get fixed and made better. Ill take all the **** that comes with it if it means this game and community doesn't get abused by people like Jamie.

Now all you server owners need to do is bang your heads together and stop paid levels and its as simple as locking accounts to a single ip address for x hours after logging off am sure one of you could whip something up with in a few hours and pass it around. I really don't wanna cause another **** show, so please just listen this time.

To the clowns defending Jamie hows his dick feel inside you? does it even touch the sides anymore.
Post automatically merged:


as for you? you see it as dumb drama i see it as killing the game we all love, its a shame you don't care about the game the same way anymore. you're a very sad sad little boy with an inferiority complex. just admit i was right now thank you and goodbye clown
Post automatically merged:


I speak the truth lil boy i don't play nice or mince my words to not hurt the feelings of dick riders like you when its something i care about, but i guess your just another that owes me an apology
Problem is the majority of players who are left playing servers are pay to play/win. Server owners are just catering to that crowd because if they couldn’t pay or afk they wouldn’t play.

Blame the users not the server owners. If you want to attack Jamie’s server then attack the players, without one Jamie’s server is dead

Also without much thought each server owner is spending £ per month just hosting it so no one’s gonna launch a server that returns £0 per month unless they genuinely love the game

So in other words MIR is ****ed
 

JoeDunn

Banned
Banned
Veteran
Jun 16, 2009
1,081
162
149
Problem is the majority of players who are left playing servers are pay to play/win. Server owners are just catering to that crowd because if they couldn’t pay or afk they wouldn’t play.

Blame the users not the server owners. If you want to attack Jamie’s server then attack the players, without one Jamie’s server is dead

Also without much thought each server owner is spending £ per month just hosting it so no one’s gonna launch a server that returns £0 per month unless they genuinely love the game

So in other words MIR is ****ed
The server owners have all the power in the world to stop it over night. when you let players keep getting away with cheating it gets to this point and then it becomes becomes normal. I don't blame the players for cheating why wouldn't they when others are doing it and not being punished for it, this is on the server owners not wanting to loose their cash cow as its those paying for levelers and botting that also spend the most in cash shops.

ive spent 1000s of my own money over the years paying for dedi host and never asked for a penny back ive turn down 100s for a +256 weapon back in the day. It seems my morals are just higher than most i guess. There are ways to monetise the game without killing it
 

nigelfarage

Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
Mar 2, 2017
451
74
55
Going to be funny seeing every server from now on blocked from the tracker since every server is going to have auto play
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Wummy

Valhalla

Nexus Mir Developer
Veteran
Nexus
Game Master
Sep 7, 2012
2,112
6
597
180
127.0.0.1
1000010413.jpg

Gonna add my 2 cents to this with the image attached. Nexus has been clear as day with usercount and its players with this public channel on discord since the first week of launch and noone batted an eyelid, it's pushed to the side by other servers because of mining, fishing, botting, autohotkey scripters, you name it. Usercount has been less than 5 for months yet I'm still keeping it online for the handful of people that still appreciate the time ive put into making it. There isn't a single afk mechanic to be seen on the whole server. 4+ months worth of content to play through with more in the pipeline. Yes this is a plug for nexus and I do not care.


Would I be lying if I said I haven't thought of adding afk **** to V3? Yes I would, the thought of adding afk mechanics has crossed my mind a lot, not because of money or having a high number on mirtracks, but because of the genuine effort that goes into making a server feels useless when everyone jumps on the bandwagon of servers that have these afk systems. It feels downright pointless putting months/years of effort and time into something only a few will even log into because of the lack of afk stuff.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Ricecrispies

Jamie

LOMCN Developer
Developer
Mar 29, 2003
4,862
418
350
United Kingdom
View attachment 37769

Gonna add my 2 cents to this with the image attached. Nexus has been clear as day with usercount and its players with this public channel on discord since the first week of launch and noone batted an eyelid, it's pushed to the side by other servers because of mining, fishing, botting, autohotkey scripters, you name it. Usercount has been less than 5 for months yet I'm still keeping it online for the handful of people that still appreciate the time ive put into making it. There isn't a single afk mechanic to be seen on the whole server. 4+ months worth of content to play through with more in the pipeline. Yes this is a plug for nexus and I do not care.


Would I be lying if I said I haven't thought of adding afk **** to V3? Yes I would, the thought of adding afk mechanics has crossed my mind a lot, not because of money or having a high number on mirtracks, but because of the genuine effort that goes into making a server feels useless when everyone jumps on the bandwagon of servers that have these afk systems. It feels downright pointless putting months/years of effort and time into something only a few will even log into because of the lack of afk stuff.


I didn't add Auto Play to inflate user count, user count was inflated because of outdated logic/original implementation of the count.

I added it because majority of people don't have time like they used to. I enjoy the more recent games like Mir4, NightCrows, MirM that had auto, hence It was implemented.
Post automatically merged:

Still throwing your toys out the pram lil boy. Proven me right yet again what kind of person you really are :D
Rat GIF by MOODMAN


Look I am going to be real, I have no idea what you are talking about, I feel like you are reading what you want to be written and not what was written.

I am begging you here, can you help me understand, I am really trying.

Step by step what I proved and how? Explain like I am five, as the herculean leap of logic is hard for me to follow.
 
Last edited:

SPL1FF

Golden Oldie
Golden Oldie
Mar 24, 2003
555
323
250
So is Hurricane going to be removed from Mirtracks? Currently 314 online at 9:45 am on a Sunday, which isn't a huge fall from peak time.

If counts are going to be removed, then we need to apply the same stance across the board, as there is absolutely no way 314 independent IP connections to that server.
 

Jamie

LOMCN Developer
Developer
Mar 29, 2003
4,862
418
350
United Kingdom
So is Hurricane going to be removed from Mirtracks? Currently 314 online at 9:45 am on a Sunday, which isn't a huge fall from peak time.

If counts are going to be removed, then we need to apply the same stance across the board, as there is absolutely no way 314 independent IP connections to that server.

Of course not, they are afk in safezone or mining which is allowed.
 

Alecs

SPQR
VIP
Jan 10, 2009
3,519
3
1,415
360
Europa
as for you? you see it as dumb drama i see it as killing the game we all love, its a shame you don't care about the game the same way anymore. you're a very sad sad little boy with an inferiority complex. just admit i was right now thank you and goodbye clown

Oh, don't give me that now. You're a crying disrespectful bitch who thinks has the right to just insult everybody to make a point.

I guess your IQ is not high enough to allow you to make your point without going full retard.

I don't like the auto hunt features in mir (or any other game) so I avoid them but if a huge part of the fan base wants is there's nothing you can do. The game is already dead and we're keeping it on life support. Screaming "yOu'rE kiLLinG tHe gAmE wE aLl lOvE" won't make anyone stop playing.

Have you ever done anything for this community instead of bitching around?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jev

JoeDunn

Banned
Banned
Veteran
Jun 16, 2009
1,081
162
149
Oh, don't give me that now. You're a crying disrespectful bitch who thinks has the right to just insult everybody to make a point.

I guess your IQ is not high enough to allow you to make your point without going full retard.

I don't like the auto hunt features in mir (or any other game) so I avoid them but if a huge part of the fan base wants is there's nothing you can do. The game is already dead and we're keeping it on life support. Screaming "yOu'rE kiLLinG tHe gAmE wE aLl lOvE" won't make anyone stop playing.

Have you ever done anything for this community instead of bitching around?
Ive help countless smaller servers with everything from making maps to scripting npcs and events back in 3.55 and several used my dedi server. Never once asked for a single penny back from people but yeh ive never helped any one you're right :ROFLMAO:.

Ive made my point clear serval times not just on jamie's **** show but with others like scorpion too, been nice about it. But like i said unless you kick off a storm its easier to just ignore the issues.

Disrespectful to who? an admin team thats turned lomcn in to a ghost town? That's ****ed off so many people now that most just jump from discord to discord? There's less than a hand full of people on here who deserver any kind of respect cut the bull **** clown. I have every right to bitch and moan about people like jaime ******* up the game just like you have the same right to to cry i upset your feelings by using bad words.
 

Flashy

LOMCN Member
Nov 4, 2022
91
59
20
So is Hurricane going to be removed from Mirtracks? Currently 314 online at 9:45 am on a Sunday, which isn't a huge fall from peak time.

If counts are going to be removed, then we need to apply the same stance across the board, as there is absolutely no way 314 independent IP connections to that server.
I have the answer! Remove Mirtracks from LOMCN all together - let players log in and see for themselves without looking at a false usercount stat that owners will manipulate to say ‘my servers got LOADS of active players’ when it’s actually afk players being rewarded for being afk…

It’s weird because you banned Elite and they have zero problems filling their server with players without mirtracks

Also what’s the point in this on Mirtracks? Nothing but ‘?’
 

Attachments

  • IMG_4666.jpeg
    IMG_4666.jpeg
    310.7 KB · Views: 20
Last edited:

nigelfarage

Dedicated Member
Dedicated Member
Mar 2, 2017
451
74
55
I have the answer! Remove Mirtracks from LOMCN all together - let players log in and see for themselves

Yeah let's make people waste their time downloading all of the dead servers on the list until they find one that actually has players on it, good idea.
 

IceSlice

Golden Oldie
Golden Oldie
May 24, 2005
1,320
207
250
Habs head rent free
I only have mining in the game and even that is limited to 5 clients per PC. I’m completely against AFK mechanics or anything that inflates UC. The only reason I added mining because every other owner was doing it and showing off inflated "silly online" counts while they barely had 30–50 real players.

If there’s a proper discussion and a rule gets set against AFK mechanics that mess with UC, I’d delete mining by now!

You can now run up to 10 clients at once (previously limited to 3)


bit contradictive xD
 

Hurricane

LOM2 - Code Services
Dedicated Member
Hurricane
Game Master
Oct 25, 2018
610
1
484
105
You can now run up to 10 clients at once (previously limited to 3)


bit contradictive xD
Funny commenting on a 3 month old post ain't it? Well let's make this clear, don't know why I'm even replying to this but let's clear the air.

I had the client limit at 5 initially. The server was very active and UC increased massively. I reduced it to 3 because I didn't like UC being overly boosted by mining and seeing silly numbers around.

After 3 months, ofc the server won't be in the same state as the first month or two and UC dropped by half icl. And another server popped up a month ago using mining system with no limitations. I'm not blaming him for that at all as long as lomcn allowing that and I have to compete with him on the same terms.

So don't be an ass and throw random sh1t on a 3 month old comment without knowing the full picture, just for attention or trolling ;p
loveyatwirl <3
 
  • Dislike
  • Like
Reactions: DarkStar and Mylo