Mirroring tested, bugs and ideas, looking for discussion.
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Deva also does attacking the mobs before, why changed now. it is a level 38 skill which can be found by normal mobs.
Mirroring is level 41 skill, only 2 or 3 in game. but it does the same job as deva do but with less damage, more MP consumption.
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Check the official website and say your words.
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Checked in the game.
thunderbolt and flamedisruptor do the same range of damage. 7-11.
Mirroring is level 41 skill, only 2 or 3 in game. but it does the same job as deva do but with less damage, more MP consumption.
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Check the official website and say your words.
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Checked in the game.
thunderbolt and flamedisruptor do the same range of damage. 7-11.
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Your such a bell end, Deva is a Tao's pet and is meant to hurt, your clone is just to make people flinch and be an annoyance in pvp not hit 50+ a hit and kill people easy!
You think its crap eh? You do realize if you use that in pvp against archer your insta dead. Its always been for blocking or flinching. On euro most our beast ff wizzys in T_M didn't even use mirror as it got in way and wasted crucial mp.
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Thousands way of flinch for wizard. the mirroring is like chicken ribs.
Tell me any of warrior skill is chicken ribs? rage or protect field? do you use them when you are hunting or pvp?
Do you find it useful?
I do not find mirror is useful. so I fight for it and put my reasons.
If you did not play wizard. I think you do not know it deeply.
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like I said, I would rather not use it.
clone do not have magicshield and have to take all the damage.
Archer has higher HP now and do 120+ damage.
If I play archer, the only thing I am doing is attacking the clone, the wizzard will run out of MP easily. use your pros and your mind.
I am not trying to overweight wizard ... But it is a 41 level skill and it sucks... it is very rare that you find high level skill useless.
Tell me any of warrior skill is chicken ribs? rage or protect field? do you use them when you are hunting or pvp?
Do you find it useful?
I do not find mirror is useful. so I fight for it and put my reasons.
If you did not play wizard. I think you do not know it deeply.
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like I said, I would rather not use it.
clone do not have magicshield and have to take all the damage.
Archer has higher HP now and do 120+ damage.
If I play archer, the only thing I am doing is attacking the clone, the wizzard will run out of MP easily. use your pros and your mind.
I am not trying to overweight wizard ... But it is a 41 level skill and it sucks... it is very rare that you find high level skill useless.
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Do you know me or what? I played Mir for more than 15 years. thanks. your opinions are just crying, not really suggestions.
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I am 44 wiz but I agree mirroring is not meant to cain people and hurt its just their to offer helping to flinch in pvp and for blocking at bosses or blocking doors etc it shud hit 100% not do much damage I don't have it so don't know how much mp it uses but maybe lower it if it is too high mp consumption? I always remember it being better to keep it at lvl 0 than lvl 3 because it doesn't get any better just uses up more MP lol.
But what I don't agree with is that wiz class is fine it is NOT fine it is pretty much broken class Samuel you always say "but Wizz have amazing AOE" etc etc, but actually they do not we can only ts one Cave in the whole bloody server being PT. you cant TS bdd properly on here Boars in bdd DO NOT STUN with ts and the mobs have way way too high HP TS barely scratches it if wiz go to bdd to ts lvl they run out of mp in 2 lures and takes ages to die, you need to change bdd mobs and make boars stunnable from ts no wizzyzs even bother tsing whole of bdd its better just to TU archers this is a major broken part of the server if you want to keep it line with euro it needs to be changed?
But what I don't agree with is that wiz class is fine it is NOT fine it is pretty much broken class Samuel you always say "but Wizz have amazing AOE" etc etc, but actually they do not we can only ts one Cave in the whole bloody server being PT. you cant TS bdd properly on here Boars in bdd DO NOT STUN with ts and the mobs have way way too high HP TS barely scratches it if wiz go to bdd to ts lvl they run out of mp in 2 lures and takes ages to die, you need to change bdd mobs and make boars stunnable from ts no wizzyzs even bother tsing whole of bdd its better just to TU archers this is a major broken part of the server if you want to keep it line with euro it needs to be changed?
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Might I take it as a personal attack?
Since I already get warnings, I think I better shut up in front of you big guys.
Since I already get warnings, I think I better shut up in front of you big guys.
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Maybe i was a tad harsh! but you need to realize Mirroring isn't meant to be doing what Deva does :/
Personal attack words removed.
I want to make the point, the mirroring is useless and we should do something. if you hold the point that thing does the job so we do nothing. then fine.
I keep my opinions
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Then teach me if you can, how to use the mirroring. I really do not know.
So far, from what I see, I do not want to use it.
OK, for the purpose of flinch, It consume 37 mp for its magic attacking as the real flamedisruptor. why should. it is not a flamedisruptor. it is just a attack to flinck.
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I am complain about the mirroring is because some of the details seems not make sense.
the MP consumption of clones. I do understand clone HP link to MP of true character. But I started to doubt it when I find out its magic attacking also consume true character's MP with such a low damage (OK, for the purpose of flinching, yes)
On the other hand, How many people have mirroring in the server? How many people tested it?
You said no body will reply. Maybe because they do not even have this skill.
You reduce my reputation for my pointless argument. I rather not have such a boring thread, wasting me ****ing time on it.
Just for your notice, my thread get 385 viewers.
thanks and good night
Before I sleep, I would like to ask:
What is the difference between level 0 mirroring and level 3 mirroring?
more damage? more smarter?
it is question to be thinking for you big guys.
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Just can not go to sleep without saying my thoughts. but better using facts to tell.
I add comparison among decoy, deva and mirroring to my thread.
I want to make the point, the mirroring is useless and we should do something. if you hold the point that thing does the job so we do nothing. then fine.
I keep my opinions
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Then teach me if you can, how to use the mirroring. I really do not know.
So far, from what I see, I do not want to use it.
OK, for the purpose of flinch, It consume 37 mp for its magic attacking as the real flamedisruptor. why should. it is not a flamedisruptor. it is just a attack to flinck.
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I am complain about the mirroring is because some of the details seems not make sense.
the MP consumption of clones. I do understand clone HP link to MP of true character. But I started to doubt it when I find out its magic attacking also consume true character's MP with such a low damage (OK, for the purpose of flinching, yes)
On the other hand, How many people have mirroring in the server? How many people tested it?
You said no body will reply. Maybe because they do not even have this skill.
You reduce my reputation for my pointless argument. I rather not have such a boring thread, wasting me ****ing time on it.
Just for your notice, my thread get 385 viewers.
thanks and good night
Before I sleep, I would like to ask:
What is the difference between level 0 mirroring and level 3 mirroring?
more damage? more smarter?
it is question to be thinking for you big guys.
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Just can not go to sleep without saying my thoughts. but better using facts to tell.
I add comparison among decoy, deva and mirroring to my thread.
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It does need changing imo, but not in the way this guy is on about, atm its a liability in pvp and for anything else really, it shouldnt be taking ur mp point for point when it recievs damage, nor should it take ur mp to cast its spells, 37 mp for a flinch in pvp? nonsense.
you said its "mostly" like euro, but i think it should be changed all the way to euro, and as the fd is only a graphical change it can keep it, but the way it is now, its really a kind of pointless skill
just my 2p.
you said its "mostly" like euro, but i think it should be changed all the way to euro, and as the fd is only a graphical change it can keep it, but the way it is now, its really a kind of pointless skill
just my 2p.
I calm down from yesterday enthusiastic of getting the book, disappointing about skill, and madness when discussion.
I agree this guy's opinion and I will put it in the my first thread.
I agree this guy's opinion and I will put it in the my first thread.
I had mirroring on both Euro & GamePotUSA and these are the changes that should be made to match it:-
1.) Mirror does have some AC/AMC on those servers. I don't know the exact figures, I would suggest this is based on a typical L40 Wiz AC/AMC
2.) Damage taken by mirror is equal to 1/5 that amount of MP only, not same amount. E.g. On Euro the guard would do 200 damage for example and my MP bar lost 40MP. This applies to all damage taken, you receive the 20% the damage amount from your MP bar.
3.) Mirroring does not take 18/37MP per shot, it takes MP overtime by reducing your 16-18 second regain. Level 0 reduced it somewhat, Level 1 quite significantly, level 2 made it so you hardly regained anything and level 3 made you lose MP per interval rather than regain it. So levelling it to L3 was a tricky decision
4.) Mirrorings damage increased with level, and this was visible from tests on the trainer. Level 3 did much more than Level 0 did and attacked significantly quicker. Level 0 had a delay which made it slower than a player while Level 3 matched the same speed. Overall levelling made it a huge different to damage output but cost you MP over time.
I did play ACE2M and I noticed mirroring was not the same as Euro in the above ways. The way it took mana per shot was a disaster and a mistake IMO, made it useless for PvE and was not as it was originally. As said it just become this useless PvP crap which I stopped using in favor of an extra pet.
Source: my memory, either everything I have said above is true or I have mental problems and remember fake things that I spent hundred of hours testing on trainer and making notes of in notepads.
1.) Mirror does have some AC/AMC on those servers. I don't know the exact figures, I would suggest this is based on a typical L40 Wiz AC/AMC
2.) Damage taken by mirror is equal to 1/5 that amount of MP only, not same amount. E.g. On Euro the guard would do 200 damage for example and my MP bar lost 40MP. This applies to all damage taken, you receive the 20% the damage amount from your MP bar.
3.) Mirroring does not take 18/37MP per shot, it takes MP overtime by reducing your 16-18 second regain. Level 0 reduced it somewhat, Level 1 quite significantly, level 2 made it so you hardly regained anything and level 3 made you lose MP per interval rather than regain it. So levelling it to L3 was a tricky decision
4.) Mirrorings damage increased with level, and this was visible from tests on the trainer. Level 3 did much more than Level 0 did and attacked significantly quicker. Level 0 had a delay which made it slower than a player while Level 3 matched the same speed. Overall levelling made it a huge different to damage output but cost you MP over time.
I did play ACE2M and I noticed mirroring was not the same as Euro in the above ways. The way it took mana per shot was a disaster and a mistake IMO, made it useless for PvE and was not as it was originally. As said it just become this useless PvP crap which I stopped using in favor of an extra pet.
Source: my memory, either everything I have said above is true or I have mental problems and remember fake things that I spent hundred of hours testing on trainer and making notes of in notepads.
Rainstone,
Thank you for making this thread I was going to spend a lot of gold to buy this skill. But from what I have read I am in no rush to get it. Hopefully the command changes and maybe other improvements will make it more desirable.
Thank you for making this thread I was going to spend a lot of gold to buy this skill. But from what I have read I am in no rush to get it. Hopefully the command changes and maybe other improvements will make it more desirable.
I am glad I can help you in this way.
Now I have to pay back my debt since I borrow a great amount of gold to buy this skill:bord:.
Now I have to pay back my debt since I borrow a great amount of gold to buy this skill:bord:.