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Thats how i understood it to be..

So it would only hit one object, where as lightning and hellfire hits all mobs/people it comes into contact with rather than a single object.

So what's the point in it being LOS only?
 

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So what's the point in it being LOS only?
Something new, make it more of a challenge, introduce a bit of skill into the game.

Stop being a negative **** and just accept things are going to be changed here. Whats the point in coding a new set of files if your not going to change a bunch of things?
 

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Password will no longer be visible//obtainable by the server owners, (Unless they remake the Account system).

Passwords will be converted to Hash values and stored, rather then storing the actual password.
 

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Something new, make it more of a challenge, introduce a bit of skill into the game.

Stop being a negative **** and just accept things are going to be changed here. Whats the point in coding a new set of files if your not going to change a bunch of things?

There's a difference between being a "negative ****" and just knowing the reality that not all new ideas are good ones. It's called being grounded...

There seems to be some confusion amongst members as to whether this idea is to change current spells or make new ones. ?

Password will no longer be visible//obtainable by the server owners, (Unless they remake the Account system).

Passwords will be converted to Hash values and stored, rather then storing the actual password.

Then I presume you will also be removing all the factors that would require a GM to log into a players account?
 

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Then I presume you will also be removing all the factors that would require a GM to log into a players account?

If GM's want access an account they will need to change the password.

Ultimately there will not be a need to as it can all be controlled via the server's interface.
 

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There's a difference between being a "negative ****" and just knowing the reality that not all new ideas are good ones. It's called being grounded...
what makes you so sure that this idea isnt a good one?

what points of the idea is so bad that it just wont make it a nice feature?
 

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what makes you so sure that this idea isnt a good one?

what points of the idea is so bad that it just wont make it a nice feature?
Lol, don't bother asking him that, he'll just say it's so obvious whats wrong with it that he doesn't need to explain. Same way he said he didn't need to explain why calling all your chars the same name ruined the rpg aspect of the game. Yeh, good one.
 

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Just red the entire thread and i have to say that Jamie is doing a superb job, however recently there was negative comments from certain individuals, these people should remember that Jamie has done all of the work by himself, therefore he is able to do whatever he wants, so give him some respect.

Also, I'm wondering if SW system would be changed? I'm pretty sure everyone would want something new.
 
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Just red the entire thread and i have to say that Jamie is doing a superb job, however recently there was negative comments from certain individuals, these people should remember that Jamie has done all of the work by himself, therefore he is able to do whatever he wants, so give him some respect.

Also, I'm wondering if SW system would be changed? I'm pretty sure everyone would want something new.
Thanks for your time in reading, and grats on your first post :p

Its true, I believe SW should be changed. Now there have been some ideas floating around on my desk/ fourms but at this stage its direction is still undecided :)
 

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what makes you so sure that this idea isnt a good one?

what points of the idea is so bad that it just wont make it a nice feature?

Have I not already just explained the LOS/nuke magics?

Furthermore, I did not say this was strictly a bad idea. I said not every new idea is a good one. I'm simply putting an opinion forward for the good of these files.

If everyone sat here tonguing ass like and saying "ye thats great do whatever you want irrespective of whether or not it's actually a positive/productive thing" like Nymph and others then this would be a big waste of time. That may still be the case though the way things are going!

Lol, don't bother asking him that, he'll just say it's so obvious whats wrong with it that he doesn't need to explain. Same way he said he didn't need to explain why calling all your chars the same name ruined the rpg aspect of the game. Yeh, good one.

Yet there were so many moronic responses that I did end up explaining why that was a poor idea. So jog on you little scrote.

Just red the entire thread and i have to say that Jamie is doing a superb job, however recently there was negative comments from certain individuals, these people should remember that Jamie has done all of the work by himself, therefore he is able to do whatever he wants, so give him some respect.

Also, I'm wondering if SW system would be changed? I'm pretty sure everyone would want something new.

OH, I APPEAR TO BE MISTAKEN. You can do whatever you want so I need to respect you for it! Lol. No, if you post on this forum I give you constructive feedback. If you can't handle it then you know where the door is.. On the other hand if you want me to just agree with everything you say and every idea you put forward then just tell me :)
 
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Have I not already just explained the LOS/nuke magics?

Furthermore, I did not say this was strictly a bad idea. I said not every new idea is a good one. I'm simply putting an opinion forward for the good of these files.

If everyone sat here tonguing ass like and saying "ye thats great do whatever you want irrespective of whether or not it's actually a positive/productive thing" like Nymph and others then this would be a big waste of time. That may still be the case though the way things are going!



Yet there were so many moronic responses that I did end up explaining why that was a poor idea. So jog on you little scrote.



OH, I APPEAR TO BE MISTAKEN. You can do whatever you want so I need to respect you for it! Lol. No, if you post on this forum I give you constructive feedback. If you can't handle it then you know where the door is.. On the other hand if you want me to just agree with everything you say and every idea you put forward then just tell me :)

Don't see how i'm "tounging ass" simply because I think his ideas are good ones.
I'm not seeing any constructive criticism from you, just you saying a minor detail is going to completely ruin any chance of this server being good , and then failing to explain why. It's not constructive criticism, it's just you trying to put the guy down.
 

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Don't see how i'm "tounging ass" simply because I think his ideas are good ones.
I'm not seeing any constructive criticism from you, just you saying a minor detail is going to completely ruin any chance of this server being good , and then failing to explain why. It's not constructive criticism, it's just you trying to put the guy down.

I've never said anything of the kind...

And on the contrary, I have explained everything. If your feeble mind can't process it that's your problem. Get out of my face.

+ We should stay on topic now!
 
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I've never said anything of the kind...

And on the contrary, I have explained everything. If your feeble mind can't process it that's your problem. Get out of my face.

+ We should stay on topic now!
Mabye you didn't say those exact words, but yes you have said something of the kind, i'm just not going to sift through 32 pages of this thread to find it.

On the contrary no you haven't, you may have tried to explain it but you haven't actually given a suitable explanation.

Like me saying oranges are great because they taste nice. Yeh I gave an explanation, but it wasnt a very good one was it?
 

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For those who get banned..

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Overall views concidering you're not limited it's seeming impressive, i like the fact that you're evolving mir and dropping some of the aspects that others have problems with.

Essentially with the amount of hate that a few are giving on the topic of name changes, you can keep 1 name for all 3 characters, do you plan to keep the previous titles that show there classes to make this a little easier for those who are suffering to understand, or will there be no ranks what so ever?

Now, the thought of fireball being a line and fire skill sounds interesting, i think it's a great idea for fireball, great fireball, soul fireball even. However skills like thunderbolt, firewall i disagree with being made into this format if even possible. I would keep those skills the same.

Overall I would say it looks smooth and I wish you all the best with it.

Off-topic: Tai & Nymph, While you are both presenting defences or comments you're both actually spamming a thread with useless ****.

If you disagree leave it as : I disagree, i don't think the ideas good due to confusion. Do not feel OBLIGED to reply to each and every single post that involves either of you. It's causing too much chaos to read through actual updates currently.

Please be a bit more mature.

Back on-topic I wish you all the best with this project, it may bring a new level of enjoyment to mir along with a few new features to experiment with.

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I wonder if you could make a left 4 dead - esque system in some caves too, like, you kill a certain mob and a whole load of mobs respawn in the room and rush you.

Im pretty sure you could find a way of doing that in the current mir files but dont think anyone has yet.
 

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Now, the thought of fireball being a line and fire skill sounds interesting, i think it's a great idea for fireball, great fireball, soul fireball even. However skills like thunderbolt, firewall i disagree with being made into this format if even possible. I would keep those skills the same.

i think the plan was to only use it on spells that have the capability to work like that (fireball etc) because tbolt, fd are more direct attacks, where as fball etc you see fly off. if that makes any sense

I wonder if you could make a left 4 dead - esque system in some caves too, like, you kill a certain mob and a whole load of mobs respawn in the room and rush you.

Im pretty sure you could find a way of doing that in the current mir files but dont think anyone has yet.

i think it could be done quite easily on the 2.3 files, [@onmobkill omakingspirit]....

then spawn a ****e load of mobs from every nook and crany lol.
 

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i think the plan was to only use it on spells that have the capability to work like that (fireball etc) because tbolt, fd are more direct attacks, where as fball etc you see fly off. if that makes any sense



i think it could be done quite easily on the 2.3 files, [@onmobkill omakingspirit]....

then spawn a ****e load of mobs from every nook and crany lol.

yeah these sort of things are done on mir 3 servers quite regularly.

On topic, I was wondering, as this is a mix of mir 2 and mir 3 with new features as well, what are your current plans for mounts? Obviously mir 2 has tigers, and mir 3 has horses, are we gonna get either one or both in this project? If you use tigers would they have the same kind of features as they do in mir 2? And with horses, could you edit the wweight/hweight for all horses & dc/sc/mc given by each horse like you can for Red/Black horse currently in mir 3?

Will you be coding the special items like CHB, Cosmos, Life, Chaos & Death neckies etc? One thing that might be a nice option for these types of items if you make them, is to be able to set the crit damage values etc in the databases, rather than just having the default ones, so like cosmos neck takes off what 3 or 4hp with poison, maybe have an option to set it higher if desired, same with the CHB?

One other thing, in the new king files there are horse armours, are you looking at using that feature in this project?

If i think of anything else I'll add it lol
 

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Been thinking of a new Idea.... Exp Split.

Basically you can go to your Options, Set the amount of EXP to Split (In percent) up to a Maximum of 20%, and the EXP you gain on the character will be reduced by this amount and in return the chosen character (On same account) will gain this amount.

obviously This needs to gather some feedback maybe add a penalty for large level difference.


I'll state this before I get grief.. This is an IDEA and has not been implemented yet.

I would like some feedback on if you think its a Good/Bad idea, why and/or how it could be improved.

The idea behind this is too help keep people interested in other classes.

Also:

Gold is now across account rather then character specific.
 
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