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Bon

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Bon just a suggestion m8.

I never liked alphaphrozen servers cause of their drop rates.There were no rares and that applied for ur Oldskool 1.4 server as well.You are an experienced mir player and im sure u know that best fun in game other than pvp is boss-hunting.Plz make it worth the effort.

I like the chance of getting 1-2item drops from norm mobs during an exp hunt but i strongly believe that rares should come from bosses.Anyway im sure u can understand wot im saying and balance it (if u havent already)

Also since we talk about a 2.3 server dont forget that orbs are ingame so having items with super stats aint really needed since u can always gem/orb em unlike 1.4 servers

Finally i would suggest u have some low lvl items (such as mir items) that will have very nice stats and will also be very rare.I always liked that.
basically wot we've done is allowed lvl 30-50 items drop off mobs, but ud only get maybe 1-2 per hunt as u said, however if u was to kill say 10 boss's, ud most likely get a few.

level 50 set and under will be a sorta "standard" non rare set, seein as lvlin to 50 is not hard.

after that the lvl 55/60/65/70 sets only drop from boss's, a few items of the set may drop in the hard guild huntin areas, eg zumaland, but will be rare.

the lvl 50+ sets off boss's will gradually get rarer the higher level they are. these are just the standard sets tho

we then have a range of unique diff items, for example HP+300 armor, PA+2 Ring, acc+10 brace etc... then there are sets for certain caves, like mir set = evilmir, heavenset = jichontemple, frozen = articcave etc etc.. these will be rare sets that level up / change class and will be considered rare

sounds good, ill give it a bash

hate the sound of doing 1-40 again in a day (rly cba with that **** lol, shud start at level 40, and just make it abit harder tbh), ill probs get bored at lvl 4 and a log off.

But meh ill try it neway.
considerin up to about lvl 20 its 1 level per mob i cant see how itsa problem.. lol


All im saying is G/L

comin from some1 thats corrupt on his own server means nothing
 

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I finished the ridiculously complicated SubClass system just this morning and now it is 100% Working and in effect ...
Ive totally redone the SkillBooks to compensate for all 15 SubClasses , so bookdrops will still be in the files and double clicking a book will still learn it (arent I awesome? :P )

I just have to make a few more changes to the Item DB to replace the old books with my new books and then its just a case of us reworking the drops tommorrow ... Were still good for an early Weekend release ...

No matter what 2.3 server you have played ... nothing has this many features .. were bringing in fresh Ideas and a fresh subclass system that lets you decide how you want to play ...

By the Morning we'll Edit a complete List of the Skills Available to Each SubClass in the 1st post so people know exactly which class they wanna be ...

Be warned however : tweaks will definately occur as ofcourse just me and Benny cant test all 15 types of chara in mass pvp situations :P

Biggest Note :

PLAYER IDEAS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME ...

Unlike certain servers that ask for player ideas then do jack-shyte once they receive them , If a systems possible , I will add it the very next day ...
whatever NPC script Idea you have , or pvp system idea or guildwar system idea , no matter how complex it may seem to implement , feel free to post it , If its possible I will Script it the same day and implement it , crediting it to the Inventor ofcourse :P ...

EDIT : "Capture The Flag" NPC being worked on .. this **** is gunna be awesome ...
 
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Well i just wouldnt like see ppl having exactly the same same kit if u get me.It doesnt look good every lvl45 war/wiz/tao having the same lvl45 full kit.Hopefully wot u are trying to do will work out.Im sure u dont like it either.

Also since i believe not every1 will have FW like previous server i hope that caves will be all 3 classes oriented.That means not 1million mobs in 1 spot obviously(that would kill server resources neway).

PS.Good drop files make a server worthy.Doesnt matter how many features it has if it doesnt have nice worked-out drop files.Hope u agree on that and make em as good as possible
 

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Well i just wouldnt like see ppl having exactly the same same kit if u get me.It doesnt look good every lvl45 war/wiz/tao having the same lvl45 full kit.Hopefully wot u are trying to do will work out.Im sure u dont like it either.

Also since i believe not every1 will have FW like previous server i hope that caves will be all 3 classes oriented.That means not 1million mobs in 1 spot obviously(that would kill server resources neway).

PS.Good drop files make a server worthy.Doesnt matter how many features it has if it doesnt have nice worked-out drop files.Hope u agree on that and make em as good as possible
its very different from the 1.4 version, obviously because 1.4 had multipe class spells, and instant pots.

there isnt really any caves that say "ur level 50 u should go here" theres just lots of various caves. u level where u think is best... harder the area better the exp.

im also aware drop files make a good server, and i will be doin my best to balance them ;)

in other news, dedi server is setup and ready to go, hopefully move server from my home PC to dedi 2moro or saturday when im lookin to open server public for some testing (altho i have had many helpers help me test boss's so far so there wont much much needed...) then live openin will shortly follow.

also please be aware that when it goes live it will be in beta, meanin quite a few things may change. ;)

will be uploadin full client tonite also
 

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Bon i take back EVRY thing i said on Mirreloaded post You do know alot about mir and i cnt believe any1 could make a server like this =/ i thort RZ was good-.- nice one on server and soz bout mirreloaded's thred
 

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Ben some questions m8.

You are using TD's files i suppose?How is slow/pa/poison/curse working?Is it like MR ish?

To be more exact.Is pa/slow working a lot(not talking about power/duration) like MR?

What are your intentions about poison strength?(imo should do some decent dmg since its high rate server)

How are u going to deal with curse problems?Since its going to be high stat server curse is gonna last like 50secs lol.

Finnally i hope u are aware that orb/gem chances+curse+poison+mob that para are somehow connected (or at least they used to be on mirrevenge that also uses TD's files).
 

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I Will Deffo be plying this, looks best thing that has come out in bloody ages! hope it stays up awhile, Bon mind if i have ur msn?
 

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1.please tell me you have removed instant pots as wiz with instant pots = ownage lol ( well any class really )
2.will you be having the sabuk wall caves ect ?
3. do only some warrior sub class's get tdb / fs and others dont ?
oh and im loving the sound of capture the flag lol nt sure how it will work though
 

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been testing it tonight with ben & some others & all i can say is
OMG - the new classes own, the start on the items are great, exp's not half bad :D
wow ben u've actually got me to enjoy mir again :P
-Dan
 

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Ben some questions m8.

You are using TD's files i suppose?How is slow/pa/poison/curse working?Is it like MR ish?

To be more exact.Is pa/slow working a lot(not talking about power/duration) like MR?

What are your intentions about poison strength?(imo should do some decent dmg since its high rate server)

How are u going to deal with curse problems?Since its going to be high stat server curse is gonna last like 50secs lol.

Finnally i hope u are aware that orb/gem chances+curse+poison+mob that para are somehow connected (or at least they used to be on mirrevenge that also uses TD's files).
yes im usin TDs files

yes PA slow works kinda often, i think 12/14 is works every hit. MR PR is bugged as u know, 2pr/mr = stops all... so basically i will not have any PR/MR ingame, altho i may have an item or 2 that has 1x PR/MR on.. think thats like 50% chance. we'll see

PA/slow gems wont have a very good success rate as to keep ppls pa/slow low, aswell as them bein rare. orbs will be same.

basically ive made poison how it should be, green = slowly takes down the targets hp. red psn = increases damage by about x1.8. there wil be no silly taos psnin ppl and doin -50hp a sec

well ive kept taos sc low, im undecided on curse atm, as i belive it ruins boss's wot with it havin a 5x5 range and workin like 90% of the time. most likely it wont be implemented, but if it is it will be very rare, and wont be able to go past level1.

ill look into this thx.


1.please tell me you have removed instant pots as wiz with instant pots = ownage lol ( well any class really )

2.will you be having the sabuk wall caves ect ?

3. do only some warrior sub class's get tdb / fs and others dont ?

oh and im loving the sound of capture the flag lol nt sure how it will work though

there are no instant pots, only sun pots which add about 80hp

sabuk cave will be worked on as a patch update once we have server up and runnin, will only take me a few hrs to put it in

the sub class's are build around the main class. so yes only subclass warriors will get tdb/fs... you wont see wiz with tdb/fs. lol

me neitehr but im sure tuma can sort it he says he knows how
 
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I finished the ridiculously complicated SubClass system just this morning and now it is 100% Working and in effect ...
Ive totally redone the SkillBooks to compensate for all 15 SubClasses , so bookdrops will still be in the files and double clicking a book will still learn it (arent I awesome? :P )

I just have to make a few more changes to the Item DB to replace the old books with my new books and then its just a case of us reworking the drops tommorrow ... Were still good for an early Weekend release ...

No matter what 2.3 server you have played ... nothing has this many features .. were bringing in fresh Ideas and a fresh subclass system that lets you decide how you want to play ...

By the Morning we'll Edit a complete List of the Skills Available to Each SubClass in the 1st post so people know exactly which class they wanna be ...

Be warned however : tweaks will definately occur as ofcourse just me and Benny cant test all 15 types of chara in mass pvp situations :P

Biggest Note :

PLAYER IDEAS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME ...
Unlike certain servers that ask for player ideas then do jack-shyte once they receive them , If a systems possible , I will add it the very next day ...
whatever NPC script Idea you have , or pvp system idea or guildwar system idea , no matter how complex it may seem to implement , feel free to post it , If its possible I will Script it the same day and implement it , crediting it to the Inventor ofcourse :P ...

EDIT : "Capture The Flag" NPC being worked on .. this **** is gunna be awesome ...

The class system isn't complicated, its just the people who make servers are un-educated fools looking for a quick fix of attention and power online. Im guessing a little title above your name saying your new class? Then a permanent name color change? Sharing spells among classes has never been hard, its just many choose to stick to the standard mir design... as it tends to bring in more players. Just looking at it from a different angle.

Also everything on your server has been done at one time or another, in one place or another. The only way to get originality these days is if you can hard code onto the existing files like Meteroa server does.

Quests?

Goodluck with your server, sounds good. You have dedication at least.
I may check it out, as its bound to have rivalry due the the amount of people hanging around bens arse, waiting for a sign of recognition. :eek:
 

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i dunno why ur flaming me when might was nothing special... no1 asked for ur opinion.

i never said stuff was brand new and never seen before, but yes, this "class system" we have hasnt been done before, so therefore it is new

if u say it aint complex then ok u go do it in a few hours? my q-function is like 50kb in size full of stuff

ive not even been workin on server a week yet, ive still got a lot more to add.

ne way i dont wnana get into an arguement, so w/e
 

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this servers more or less going to be awesome. many attributes, quests worth doing, hunting areas and lots of boss's, the sub class system gona be awesome once balanced, pking going to be fun plus more pking because you drop less, thing is though i think its one server thats going to need instant pots standard, not over the top instants but +250 hp n 100mp for wars and +250 mp +100hp for wizzes with the tao having a choice of either one. the reason i think server needs it is your going to have all these skills and reasonabley high stats but only normal pots to out pot, and i dont think it will work, but obviously make cash worth while on server and charge for these pots. and items wise i like the idea of kits but i think you need bosses to drop unique items for odd lvls with gd stats but to be rare.
 

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The class system isn't complicated, its just the people who make servers are un-educated fools looking for a quick fix of attention and power online. Im guessing a little title above your name saying your new class? Then a permanent name color change? Sharing spells among classes has never been hard, its just many choose to stick to the standard mir design... as it tends to bring in more players. Just looking at it from a different angle.

Also everything on your server has been done at one time or another, in one place or another. The only way to get originality these days is if you can hard code onto the existing files like Meteroa server does.

Quests?

Goodluck with your server, sounds good. You have dedication at least.
I may check it out, as its bound to have rivalry due the the amount of people hanging around bens arse, waiting for a sign of recognition. :eek:

Such an aggressive post ...

But I Just cant post back in the same many .. why???

Because I have nothing but sympathy for the host who gave his files to a complete stranger and compromised the security of all his players accounts thus destroying his own server ...

Lets look at some Facts : Your 2.3 Server with custom features lasted less time than Ben's 1.4 server (using 5 year old files) , and had a lower playercount ... please dont give any advice to us , I dont think you can help ...

And dont talk about Meteora in here ... When I look at their "Upcoming server Original Thread Date and the current date , it makes me remember when I was a boy" , Thanks
 

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i dunno why ur flaming me when might was nothing special... no1 asked for ur opinion.

i never said stuff was brand new and never seen before, but yes, this "class system" we have hasnt been done before, so therefore it is new

if u say it aint complex then ok u go do it in a few hours? my q-function is like 50kb in size full of stuff

ive not even been workin on server a week yet, ive still got a lot more to add.

ne way i dont wnana get into an arguement, so w/e

Just because i don't bow before you and kiss your feet im a flamer? Okay.
I was just merely stating facts, don't hate me hate the facts.
Of course 'your' class system hasn't been done before, its yours. But its not a new idea.

I love how you got defensive straight away also, by attempting to insult my server. I can see why so many people love your, your certainly something for them to be aspiring to.

Maybe i should just say the server iz lyk totaly mazin, and i cnt w8 2 play it. But then i have common sense and dignity. No arguement here.

Your server is fresh and new, a great take of some old under used ideas. Combined woth your oh so fame stricken existence on mir im sure it'll be a big hit. Until you do something someone doesn't like. :punch:
Plus since theres not much competition around these days, well done.

EDIT: Thought i'd add some more since tuma loves me.
I merely filled a void that over 40 people had over the christmas period, my server wasn't planned to be released EVER, nor was it complete in any form. Plus my lack of enthusiasm for updating as fast as people expected and lack of interest in pleasing people online - it was coming to a close before the 'stolen server files' incident. I merely released my server as it was far better than any that were online during that time in terms of features and gameplay, plus the whole idea of starting a fresh somewhere gives people a chance of getting uber.

I never insulted your server, i merely made a comment on it. Since everyone else made a comment i thought i'd have mine. Its not my fault that my ideas and yours dont match. Nor is it yours. But if i had to blame anyone, i would obviously blame you. :)

For the work Meteroa have done i would expect it to take time.
Its not hard to rename spells/items/mobs/maps.
 
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please dont give any advice to us , I dont think you can help ...

Go look on this forums help section.

Also any server Ben plays/creates has a fairly high usercount because of all the drones that follow him mindlessly. Or something.
 

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i aint after an argument

i dont care whos server is better or worse....


Go look on this forums help section.

Also any server Ben plays/creates has a fairly high usercount because of all the drones that follow him mindlessly. Or something.

i see no shame in askin for help

99% of the stuff i asked for i could of figured out, but it woulda taken time

why waste time tryin to figure stuff out when u can merly ask some1 that will quickly tell u?

im gratefull for every1 that has helped and answered, inc u. i jsut dont see why ur bein an arse tryin to put the server down. it rly aint that bad lol

oh and sorry for havin friends.
 
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what a poor come back, if your server was incomplete as you put it, you couldnt be bothered to update and wernt really planning on doing so, why did you waste peoples time and put it up?

and as for meteora, its pretty crap tbh another destinyAO that wont come up, even when i tested it the stats were lower than euro for christ sake and lvling was just as slow or slower.
 
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