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Hey so i have runned @ the past hours and did a few bits here and there , did not read the forum posts so i can have more time to run ingame and see what i can find


1 When you press B and open the BigMap the White dot is to small and on maps with show you cant see were you are . If you have BigMap opened and try open the Bag the Map is covering the bag and you cant see what you have in it , also you cant make it semi invisible like on other servers , cant auto-run ( dunno if you guys had in plan to make auto run on map or not )

Also when you press B and open BigMap you dont see Town names / caves names ( on the big map ) in : Bichon / EdenBay / SerpentValley / WoomyonWoods / TaoVillage ( here you have all the names on the map but in Chinese ) / CastleGi-Ryoong / MongchonProvince / PrajnaIsland / PastBichon / WhiteValley / DockIsland / SenjinCity / DeadLands

2 I randomly started Quests ( was looking to see if i can find FateSword quest ( not sure if you guys have it ingame or not ) at some point i got a quest in TaoVillage it's from " Sam " npc from Drapery ( in TaoVillage ) Quest if for lvl 21 called Missing Materials , you need to colect 10 RedThread's and 10 Blackthrea's by Killing VenomSpider's and GreatSpider's in TreePath so i was in there for like 30 min killing this Spiders but none were droping so i started to kill all the mobs ( was thinking maybe it's bugged and others are droping the quest items ) but no luck at all so i started to go f1-2-3-4-5 and killed all kinds of spiders to find out if they are droping still no luck .

3 Imo the SpiderBats in TreePath and in the cave to rme Poison you ( PARA ) to often , dunno if it's the same with Wedge's and other mobs that have the para efect just what i noticed with SpiderBats .

4 When you set auto-pot on relog it resets to 0 it's not being saved

5 Trap on assasin have pretty big cooldown Imo , if it's meant to trap all mobs then the CD is to High imo , if it's meant for Subs and other stuff then it's ok ( but i try to trap some subs and did not work )

6 Assasin hide is not working on a fair few mobs ( apart from Wedges / Spider bats , wich should be normal like all servers )

7 Orcs map there is a few problems here , there are tiny things on the map like Rocks or what should i call them that if you try to walk on them you get knockedback ( wont let you get past it so you need to bypass it , Some corners of the map do the same thing , dunno if you realy understand it's hard to explain , but if you are in that map and run through it it's pretty annoying when you get knocked back , you should get stoped like when you hit a wall or a big object . Some other maps that are similar to orcs with small things on the ground have the same effect .


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So i started the HolySword quest in TaoVillage ( i think this is the quest for RedMoonSword right ? ) . Started the quest got to the point that i need to Kill a RootSpider so he can tell me somekind of story . Killed the spider quest apeared as Complete , gone back to the npc completed the quest then the next step is to Listen to this guy's Story , but the quest got bugged and it still tells me to kill a root spider when i click him , but when i open Quest window it shows me i need to listen to his story . NPC is called Perry in TaoVillage inside the castel


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Went to Kill OMAKING or at least to see how hard he hits and what damage i can do to him , it was NOT OUT and i was the only one online the past 1:30-2:00 hours or so ... not sure if it is ingame , if it was bugged not spwaning , or if some one killed it before i got online and it has a big respawn time ... i searched for it like 1 hour or so and nothing there ...

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Mobs ( Dark ) from WoomaTemple when hiting sin in hide , unhide you , dunno if it's normal or not , encountered this thing with other mobs aswel when hiting you removing your Hide

PoisonSword (Sin Spell ) when hiting a certian mob you it gets auto targeted all spels hit him but if you have your mouse cursor on some other side and hit PosionSword spell , the spell will not hit the mob and your char will turn to the place were your cursor is ( dunno how explain this but i hope you can understand .

Sometimes AutoPot is not working you have to pot manualy for it to start again

Also bagweight can do with a small adjustment i think it's a bit low , can do with some extra bag weight


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Dont know if this is realy important but i noticed the PatrolGuard in BichonProvince will not patrol if you stay on your horse / mount at the coords 322:257 , When he gets there he stops behind your back and wont move or bypass you until you move away




I will edit this post as soon as i find other things so i don't create 1 million posts :P . Also if you want i can try to cover as many quests as i can to see if they all work ( Or did any 1 cover them ? ) , but the question is do people actualy do quests is it worth the time to see if they all work ? or will people just grind the lvls by killing mobs the old style? should i do this? :)



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Hey so i have runned @ the past hours and did a few bits here and there , did not read the forum posts so i can have more time to run ingame and see what i can find

1 When you press B and open the BigMap the White dot is to small and on maps with show you cant see were you are . If you have BigMap opened and try open the Bag the Map is covering the bag and you cant see what you have in it , also you cant make it semi invisible like on other servers , cant auto-run ( dunno if you guys had in plan to make auto run on map or not )

The big map is suppose to be over the top and should be closed if you wish to interact with other elements of the game. We will possibly look at adding a feature to make it transparent but it's not going to be anything priority. There is also currently no plan yet to add auto-run via clicking on the map.

Also when you press B and open BigMap you dont see Town names / caves names ( on the big map ) in : Bichon / EdenBay / SerpentValley / WoomyonWoods / TaoVillage ( here you have all the names on the map but in Chinese ) / CastleGi-Ryoong / MongchonProvince / PrajnaIsland / PastBichon / WhiteValley / DockIsland / SenjinCity / DeadLands.

This is a client interface issue. We have to go through all of the minimaps/ bigmaps and apply text and border to them but it's one of the last things on the list in regards to interface.

2 I randomly started Quests ( was looking to see if i can find FateSword quest ( not sure if you guys have it ingame or not ) at some point i got a quest in TaoVillage it's from " Sam " npc from Drapery ( in TaoVillage ) Quest if for lvl 21 called Missing Materials , you need to colect 10 RedThread's and 10 Blackthrea's by Killing VenomSpider's and GreatSpider's in TreePath so i was in there for like 30 min killing this Spiders but none were droping so i started to kill all the mobs ( was thinking maybe it's bugged and others are droping the quest items ) but no luck at all so i started to go f1-2-3-4-5 and killed all kinds of spiders to find out if they are droping still no luck .

Probably a typo with the quest items in drop files, we will look into this.

3 Imo the SpiderBats in TreePath and in the cave to rme Poison you ( PARA ) to often , dunno if it's the same with Wedge's and other mobs that have the para efect just what i noticed with SpiderBats .

We will look into this.

4 When you set auto-pot on relog it resets to 0 it's not being saved

Never had this issue before but we will look into it.

5 Trap on assasin have pretty big cooldown Imo , if it's meant to trap all mobs then the CD is to High imo , if it's meant for Subs and other stuff then it's ok ( but i try to trap some subs and did not work )

This is intended, there is of course a level requirement but the level gap is a lot higher than the taoist trap hexagon. You can trap higher level monsters but only 1 at a time and at a lower frequency.

6 Assasin hide is not working on a fair few mobs ( apart from Wedges / Spider bats , wich should be normal like all servers )

We had an issue in phase 2 where no monster was seeing players in hide. I think xx69xx has since been working on the database to correct this so I'll add it to the tracker and see where he is at with this.

7 Orcs map there is a few problems here , there are tiny things on the map like Rocks or what should i call them that if you try to walk on them you get knockedback ( wont let you get past it so you need to bypass it , Some corners of the map do the same thing , dunno if you realy understand it's hard to explain , but if you are in that map and run through it it's pretty annoying when you get knocked back , you should get stoped like when you hit a wall or a big object . Some other maps that are similar to orcs with small things on the ground have the same effect .

Yes we are aware of a variety of different knock-back issues on maps. We unfortunately can't fix these issues until we are able to get hold of a good map editor to correct the blocks. If you could report any maps (and roughly the co-ordinates) that you experience these issues so we can edit it when we are able to get our hands on a map editor.


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So i started the HolySword quest in TaoVillage ( i think this is the quest for RedMoonSword right ? ) . Started the quest got to the point that i need to Kill a RootSpider so he can tell me somekind of story . Killed the spider quest apeared as Complete , gone back to the npc completed the quest then the next step is to Listen to this guy's Story , but the quest got bugged and it still tells me to kill a root spider when i click him , but when i open Quest window it shows me i need to listen to his story . NPC is called Perry in TaoVillage inside the castel

We will test and look into this bug, seems odd that it said complete but wasn't allowing you to continue, maybe there was a level requirement of some sort.

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Went to Kill OMAKING or at least to see how hard he hits and what damage i can do to him , it was NOT OUT and i was the only one online the past 1:30-2:00 hours or so ... not sure if it is ingame , if it was bugged not spwaning , or if some one killed it before i got online and it has a big respawn time ... i searched for it like 1 hour or so and nothing there ...

We will look into this and get back to you.

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Mobs ( Dark ) from WoomaTemple when hiting sin in hide , unhide you , dunno if it's normal or not , encountered this thing with other mobs aswel when hiting you removing your Hide

PoisonSword (Sin Spell ) when hiting a certian mob you it gets auto targeted all spels hit him but if you have your mouse cursor on some other side and hit PosionSword spell , the spell will not hit the mob and your char will turn to the place were your cursor is ( dunno how explain this but i hope you can understand)

I think I understand what your saying but we will test it when we are in game just to confirm.

Sometimes AutoPot is not working you have to pot manualy for it to start again

Again unsure what could be causing this, i've never experience this as of yet. Any idea what I could do to reproduce this error?

Also bagweight can do with a small adjustment i think it's a bit low , can do with some extra bag weight

I don't think bag weight will be adjusted, I think xx69xx has planned and set bagweight according to how we see the server progressing. I will make a note of it for him to look at and double check incase there may be room for adjustments.

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Dont know if this is realy important but i noticed the PatrolGuard in BichonProvince will not patrol if you stay on your horse / mount at the coords 322:257 , When he gets there he stops behind your back and wont move or bypass you until you move away

We did make a note of this, unfortunately patrol guards aren't smart enough to map their own route if blocked. I've been informed that adding this feature would dramatically increase the processing power of the server and even if I was to add it I'm not entirely sure how to code this yet.

I will edit this post as soon as i find other things so i don't create 1 million posts :P . Also if you want i can try to cover as many quests as i can to see if they all work (Or did any 1 cover them ? ), but the question is do people actualy do quests is it worth the time to see if they all work ? or will people just grind the lvls by killing mobs the old style? should i do this? :)

We had an issue at the start of phase 1 where players did not cover quests due to a bug in one of the earlier quests in EdenBay, so if you could cover as many quests as possible to find any issues we would be grateful.

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Thanks for the reply the problem with the knock-back on the maps is that , you need a lot of people to take each maps at a time , like 10-15 people all go run around in f1 after covering it go f2 and so on , the maps are really big and there are alot of spots like this for just 1 player to cover them all . But in Orcs for eg on corners you are most likely to get knocked back because you see space for you to pass but there is actualy no space , as for the litle rocks...i can only say there are alot of them lol . I could go and try and cover the main routes till f5 but there are plenty of mobs there aswel so it will be hard because mobs will be killing me . As for quests will try to start them today see what i can do in the time that i have free


As for the Rme quest , i think the quest is for lvl 35 ? or something like that ... so i'm 47 should be no problem there

The problem with the auto-pot stoping from time to time , i think if you go try kill a boss like WT or something that burns your hp fast and spam spells as fast as you can so you can burn mana aswel you might notice it

The bag weight i encountered now @ lvl 47 some problems with not having enough pots or rt's that i needed to travel , i cant imagine how it will be when you are lower lvl , a small-medium increse to this wont hurt , or maybe add items with Bag Weight , let's say belt/boots or something like that , this way people will chose between extra ac amc or other stats and BagWeight ... no one wants to go some place and not have enough bag weight to carry what he needs to get his tasks completed . ( maybe this is just me that sees this as a problem , maybe a forum pool or asking more people will help and see how people see this if it's ok or not )


Forgot to mention that when you Mount it's instant mounting , you don't have a casting time or something on it dunno if this is like you guys wanted it to be or it's a bug , but i think it should have like 1 or 2 seconds casting time ?
 
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Dont go out of your way to find these spots. Just if you notice any try to make a rough note and let us know. But as said previously we have no way of sorting this out yet. We are currently looking for an answer.
 

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k now i'm curious: dayidie: tell me about these knockbacks on skype :p
 

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Dont go out of your way to find these spots. Just if you notice any try to make a rough note and let us know. But as said previously we have no way of sorting this out yet. We are currently looking for an answer.


Also i forgot to Mention , When you start a quest you have it on the left of the screen , if you log out of the game and come back in it wont show on your screen again , you have to press Q to see it , cant find a buton to " show quest on screen / hide from screen " maybe it's a bug or it should be like this not sure " also i edited my first reply to you

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Answers in red.
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NEW EDITING FOR QUESTS :

Curently Doing the Daily Feed quest that you start in bichon you need to kill x2 OmaWarrior and collect 10x Fresh meat from Deers , i went in Castle GY to kill OW's it took me some time to find them , either make more to spawn or remove them from the quest and let so you collect only Meat from Deers ( Dunno why you guys put this kind of thing with mont Loyality , would have been nicer if the mount had HP and die when out of hp )

Took me 30 min to complete this quest lol ( but maybe it was just me unlucky finding deers and deer meat ( The quest item that you give is giving you only 1000 Loyality ( 1000 nutrition i dont think this will make your mount to full 20k if it's low ) ...

I made a quest ( completed it and forgot to take note ) it's from Grocery guy in Bichon called Bull , he gives you a quest that you need to kill 15x RedViper and 15X YellowViper or what they are called . The Reward is a SolidBronzeAxe for lvl 13 and that's it , is it just a quest for a Warr? or maybe it should give you the option to chose the wepon for your class ?


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When you open quest window and select a quest to read it , the quest is larger then the box , you cant scroll up or down to see all the quest detailes
 
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Yes we are aware of a variety of different knock-back issues on maps. We unfortunately can't fix these issues until we are able to get hold of a good map editor to correct the blocks. If you could report any maps (and roughly the co-ordinates) that you experience these issues so we can edit it when we are able to get our hands on a map editor.

"knockback" issues (ie displacement) aren't anything to do with needing a map editor. It's a code issue where the client thinks you can stand on a spot but the server says you can't.

I noticed these in shanda maps when theres an image a few blocks high and the server has registered that as a no go block. I had this lots a few weeks ago when i started testing shanda maps, pretty sure i fixed the issue as i haven't experienced a displacement since.
 

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"knockback" issues (ie displacement) aren't anything to do with needing a map editor. It's a code issue where the client thinks you can stand on a spot but the server says you can't.

I noticed these in shanda maps when theres an image a few blocks high and the server has registered that as a no go block. I had this lots a few weeks ago when i started testing shanda maps, pretty sure i fixed the issue as i haven't experienced a displacement since.


Well i noticed the knockback when i was in Orcs wanted to see how mobs hit and how many are there on the route to F5 , let's say it's not a problem untill you get to F5 but when you are there in f5 and try to search for OrcColos , and have a huge number of mobs after you and you hit a spot that knocks you back , you are pretty much dead :P
 

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The only possibility of it being related to a map block issue was if the server and client maps don't match up (using a F4 map named F5 in the client could cause this). Other than that the issue is in code.
 

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Yeah after speaking with thedeath I think it's possibly an issue with different maps. I think we probably edited maps in the client but never overwrote them in the server.
 

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The only possibility of it being related to a map block issue was if the server and client maps don't match up (using a F4 map named F5 in the client could cause this). Other than that the issue is in code.

I will give you an example i just went there now for eg in f3 if you are siting @ 227:166 and try to run to 227:165 , you get knocked back same for 231:156 to go to 232:155 you clearly have space to go but it wont let you , this is just for some corners that i went fast to see the coords and show to you , maybe you can go ingame and see might help you to see what i am talking about because i dont really know how to explain
 

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I will give you an example i just went there now for eg in f3 if you are siting @ 227:166 and try to run to 227:165 , you get knocked back same for 231:156 to go to 232:155 you clearly have space to go but it wont let you , this is just for some corners that i went fast to see the coords and show to you , maybe you can go ingame and see might help you to see what i am talking about because i dont really know how to explain
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Yeah after speaking with thedeath I think it's possibly an issue with different maps. I think we probably edited maps in the client but never overwrote them in the server.

I am 99% sure this is not it, but worth putting all the maps across from client to server (iv never edited a map from server desktop. so safe bet if client - server)

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Lol I just read your name

Shhhh don't tell anyone :(

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Also i forgot to Mention , When you start a quest you have it on the left of the screen , if you log out of the game and come back in it wont show on your screen again , you have to press Q to see it , cant find a buton to " show quest on screen / hide from screen " maybe it's a bug or it should be like this not sure " also i edited my first reply to you

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NEW EDITING FOR QUESTS :

Curently Doing the Daily Feed quest that you start in bichon you need to kill x2 OmaWarrior and collect 10x Fresh meat from Deers , i went in Castle GY to kill OW's it took me some time to find them , either make more to spawn or remove them from the quest and let so you collect only Meat from Deers ( Dunno why you guys put this kind of thing with mont Loyality , would have been nicer if the mount had HP and die when out of hp )

Took me 30 min to complete this quest lol ( but maybe it was just me unlucky finding deers and deer meat ( The quest item that you give is giving you only 1000 Loyality ( 1000 nutrition i dont think this will make your mount to full 20k if it's low ) ...

I made a quest ( completed it and forgot to take note ) it's from Grocery guy in Bichon called Bull , he gives you a quest that you need to kill 15x RedViper and 15X YellowViper or what they are called . The Reward is a SolidBronzeAxe for lvl 13 and that's it , is it just a quest for a Warr? or maybe it should give you the option to chose the wepon for your class ?


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When you open quest window and select a quest to read it , the quest is larger then the box , you cant scroll up or down to see all the quest detailes


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Bichon Quests


Quest CorpsFlower starting in bichon lvl 28 from PotionShop called " Judy "
You need to kill RoningGhouls to get CropsFlowers , Killed about 15 mins and i even try to harvest them but they are not droping the materials for the quest


CaveMaggots in OmaCave need spawns upped , curently there are so few and you need them for a quest
( the quest was a pain i barely found the cave maggots + the drop rate of the quest items ( Relic ) is really really low after that i fought hmmm maybe in WT lobby i can find faster because there are maggots in that place aswel , and yea in the end the quest works from there aswel but it took me so long to complete it lol...




Quest Cooking Beef Rib Stew from MirGUide npc called " Peter " is not working , you need to colect BeefRib by killing WoomaSoldier's in WoomaTemple , but they are not droping them , again i even try to harvest them but they are not droping




CanibalPlants need spawn uping a bit in BW or WW


I will edit along when i find more ...