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Private offline testers for tomorrow...
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I would advise testing it with standard kits and not the kits people have on live otherwise all your going to test is Kits and not classes.
No idea who u are, but i do agree with you.
Xele/kori/Firepheonix/Tash/Blank would be ones i would recommend. All like a fair fight and want the game to be best it can be. Thats one from each class? I think blank is a tao ? Could be wrong
Thanks for the recommendation Skyline, I'd be up for it as a Taoist.
and I'd also suggest Aldor (if he's willing) as hes experienced & very good with words.
I agree with the names above also, all very experienced, well worded players and I would imagine all know there way around a computer should there be any issues.
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The other survey showed that less than 25% of the players cared about pvp. Thats from the all the mir fans on Lomcn who are the core players for every server and doesn't take account of all the people who don't bother with lomcn.
So instead of appeasing this very vocal 23% why dont you fix the other stuff in game.
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dont make many changes at once. Fix the TDB bug see how that goes. Then adjust something else. Many changes at once and you cant tell what was good.
Fair fight? When? Just on the test server?
I would say
anyone that volunteers shouldn't be included. Ask long standing players known to play well. Say Rollcage though he seems to have disappeared or whiplash varaka or Zyzz or Alfiee, blank Piao, anfield, Gendancea ziiid, shrek. king tony, wong.
No one from curse10 because they have axes to grind and no one who doesn't speak reasonably decent English unless you can find a bunch of volunteer translators who also play the game.
So instead of appeasing this very vocal 23% why dont you fix the other stuff in game.
Please
dont make many changes at once. Fix the TDB bug see how that goes. Then adjust something else. Many changes at once and you cant tell what was good.
Fair fight? When? Just on the test server?
I would say
anyone that volunteers shouldn't be included. Ask long standing players known to play well. Say Rollcage though he seems to have disappeared or whiplash varaka or Zyzz or Alfiee, blank Piao, anfield, Gendancea ziiid, shrek. king tony, wong.
No one from curse10 because they have axes to grind and no one who doesn't speak reasonably decent English unless you can find a bunch of volunteer translators who also play the game.
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As previously stated, I'd be happy to test any melee classes (Warrior, Assassin) as I've played both extensively on both the Beta and Live server.
I would also be available to test the ranged classes too, as I did main a wizzard back on Euro.
I would also be available to test the ranged classes too, as I did main a wizzard back on Euro.
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Wasnt refering to the one instance where you "dropped me in 1" (after hitting me 3x between you + wong - drop in 1????), i was refering to your cry thread about AB having a cooldown at level 1.
Anywho, players suggested would give an accurate judgement on issues at hand.
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My post was very much on topic, where as yours, is not.
I'd just add when testing anything to do with archers to use the free item slot that only this class gets to its full ability. Which is by using PlatinumArrows. They are faily easy to obtain and most archers use them.
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I'd just add when testing anything to do with archers to use the free item slot that only this class gets to its full ability. Which is by using PlatinumArrows. They are faily easy to obtain and most archers use them.
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this is such a bad idea i might actually vomit
please dont do this.
do not build a server round and cater for the fastest few percent of the server.
if someone has a fast pc or internet connection - it REALLY doesnt mean they have valid points to contribute. I have read posts on this forum from 'suggested names' and surely cant be the only one to see such childish, self righteous posts with a complete lack of empathy.
the user count is going down because you crumble to the opinion of those you are asking to help. the majority cant and wont play like them. you need to include the whole community and get everyones opinion.
I take issue with how you carried out beta testing too - but this is much more game breaking. please dont do it.
please dont do this.
do not build a server round and cater for the fastest few percent of the server.
if someone has a fast pc or internet connection - it REALLY doesnt mean they have valid points to contribute. I have read posts on this forum from 'suggested names' and surely cant be the only one to see such childish, self righteous posts with a complete lack of empathy.
the user count is going down because you crumble to the opinion of those you are asking to help. the majority cant and wont play like them. you need to include the whole community and get everyones opinion.
I take issue with how you carried out beta testing too - but this is much more game breaking. please dont do it.
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Default Re: Balance Issues (Real opinions).
Quote Originally Posted by Shane/Banshee View Post
this is where the real issue is. it was never a problem on euro because it used to stop spells working rather then 1.5x damage (was only 1.2 there and mobs only).
only other thing that really bothers me is that playing a level 46 sin i struggle in orcs jinchon or anywhere that hits me for 25% of my hp in 1 hit.
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The Dorf says
yeah, I also struggle that you AND your brother have luck+7.. what's the odds on that?
aside from packet sniffing or other cheats generally, don't trust you at all.. and why should anyone else? It's almost a reason to dump this server.. but then we've seen lots have.. we'll see at 2.0 how many come back.. but currently this server is leaking 50 users a week.
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I agree with this guy Dorf. The antics of some players puts many off. Most servers they play die fast and have far fewer users. Wonder why?
The aggressive kill everyone else on my screen attitude is another put off. And yet the number who play this style is a minority. Thats why the carebear servers recently lasted longer with good user counts.
Something to consider while you are fixing the pvp that not may players are bothered about
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Default Re: Balance Issues (Real opinions).
Quote Originally Posted by Shane/Banshee View Post
this is where the real issue is. it was never a problem on euro because it used to stop spells working rather then 1.5x damage (was only 1.2 there and mobs only).
only other thing that really bothers me is that playing a level 46 sin i struggle in orcs jinchon or anywhere that hits me for 25% of my hp in 1 hit.
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The Dorf says
yeah, I also struggle that you AND your brother have luck+7.. what's the odds on that?
aside from packet sniffing or other cheats generally, don't trust you at all.. and why should anyone else? It's almost a reason to dump this server.. but then we've seen lots have.. we'll see at 2.0 how many come back.. but currently this server is leaking 50 users a week.
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I agree with this guy Dorf. The antics of some players puts many off. Most servers they play die fast and have far fewer users. Wonder why?
The aggressive kill everyone else on my screen attitude is another put off. And yet the number who play this style is a minority. Thats why the carebear servers recently lasted longer with good user counts.
Something to consider while you are fixing the pvp that not may players are bothered about
Not sure if you're including me on this "suggested names" but I can assure you my speed is average/below average depending on what mood my wifi's in & when the pigeons jump off the 6 mile long copper wire to my exchange. :P
testing something needs to be done with a good cross section of the user base - but much more logically including as many as possible and making polls for feedback with separate comments.
to name names of those i dont think would give a fully balanced view goes against what i would like to see achieved, and falls in the 'forum trolling' category - not something im interested in doing. it is more relevant that opinions of many would not be considered with this type of testing.
lets say for example - the clunky 'stopping' when running around pvping might suit slower players more than fast ones.
or with a small bunch of players, there likely wont be a thorough test in to how group pvp will play out.
then it turns out that these selected testers are happy as sand boys with the changes, will fight to defend the changes regardless of what happened because of their own involvement with it, and risk alienating a significantly huge chunk of the community - once again.
ultimately he is looking to pull players in to this to listen to and use their opinions - when so much of the guff i read on here is from teenagers (17-24 year olds) asserting themselves in that 'oh so familiar' way.
you need the majority to be happy with changes.
you also need to help this small community all feel included. users other than those selected need feel as though their opinion means something to the devs.
my understanding is that apex had some kind of partialy exclusive closed beta testing before the server launch - which i also think should have been handled better.
if you want me to do it pve with your new spells i can spend a full working day on it tomorrow (approx 8 hours)
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I agree with Mampi, why not just let everyone get involved with the testing? That's if they want to. You'll get a much wider view on things as to what people want/don't want rather than the opinions from the select few.
Everyone who's playing your Server wants to see it do well so why not let everyone test and have their say? It's the only fair way to go about it without upsetting the majority.
Everyone who's playing your Server wants to see it do well so why not let everyone test and have their say? It's the only fair way to go about it without upsetting the majority.
I'd like to agree, but I think the issue with that would be that the vast majority of the players still only look after themselves, and want themselves buffed, and/or have no idea what they're actually supposed to be testing or doing and generally throwing up alot of flak when at the end of the day its just Sam & a couple of others who will probably want clear concise replies from people who know what they're talking about rather than 101 replys about unicorns and 2 valid.
I mean, how much utter rubbish has been spouted on these forums.... would it be a good idea to try debugging a game-changing system due out in the next couple of days with 300 people spamming a test forum with "I CAN'T FARM CANNIBAL PLANTS FIX IT PLS" & "OMG SAM YOU'VE DESTROYED MIR, ILL NEVER PLAY THIS AGAIN"
I know back on Reunited we tried taking on board Suggestions/Feedback but sweet Jesus, it really was 10,000 bullshit comments vs probably 5 people who knew what they were actually talking about, the admin / time required to sift through that crap made the whole thing unfeasible.
I can't say I know anything about that, I'm aware a few Apex members were in closed beta, but then i knew just as many who weren't Apex.
I'll add, I became interested in Chronicles during the final couple of weeks of beta and despite being an high ranking Apex member .... I couldn't get into testing.
ps, I have the feeling we're just spamming this thread with chit-chat, as all Samuel wanted names of people interested - so I'll refrain from posting here again.
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would be too much info to sift through.
5 people for each class would be ok if you ask me. make sure they are not friends or at least not all of them are friends.
5 people for each class would be ok if you ask me. make sure they are not friends or at least not all of them are friends.