proposal to 'hosts'

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thedeath

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well as you all might have noticed i've been inactive lately (been playing soma tbh)
i've been wondering on how to proceed in the future
it's becoming obvious that atm the only servers that are really getting 50+ users are high exp ones

now as you prob all know i dont like those and never will
this is my proposal:
i dont wanna be working on mir full time atm but i'm considering to do an update every month or 2 (real update not small quickfixes)

HOWEVER i'd only do this to a limited amount of servers
ontop of that there would be sorta rules apply'd (not saying hosts wont have the chance to make desisions on their own i dont want all the servers to be exact copy's
example: if i added a new high lvl spell i would possible ask the hosts not to give it away to every high lvl but make it semi rare
another example: if i added some special summon i would ask the hosts not to make it a super mob that kills everything in 1 hit

anyway made this topic is to see which hosts might be interested and what ppl think about the idea
(btw feel free to tell hosts about this topic (hint))
would like to get an idea of the servers online atm
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exp rate
top 5 player levels
amount of gm's
any other info that would influence my desision (like special things about the server which would make me see its a server worth working on and not just a basic drag and drop server with a few db edits)
 

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information:
exp rate
top 5 player levels
amount of gm's

Iam sure the team of bandet will be very interested in any updates as long as you fix the guild emblum system and the mass moblag it caused our server but thats a seperate issue lol

Server name : Bandet
Exp Rate : x28 - but with custom exp file
Top 5 :
level 130 is top at mo
level 127
a few around 110

all others are below 100
server has been running 7 months now
GM: 3x full gms - 1 observer

bandet is no where near a euro clone, nearly every cave is unique, every kit is different, the only euro kits we have are used until level 40 then are replaced with our own kits, i have personally spent lots and lots of time building a unique client for others to rip off.

we would love more skills to use and yes they would be made semi rare as i feel the spells on the server were gained well to easily but that was not ment to happen tbh

anyway as i said any updates would be appreciated, here are some of my ideas which i would love to see added or fixed:

- adding horses

- more mob ai's

- raising the level cap or removing it completely

- also the guild emblum system killed our player count for two weeks untill we found that it was that which caused mass mob lag all the time
player count went from 78 at one point slowly down to 30 ish now its backup to 40 - 50 but will take a while to get ppl back

- i would love to see a weather system like mir3 have like rain, snow, fog etc would be great

- stat cap is not a problem for us but for some of the super high rates it will be

- allow the facility to boost the stats of mirroring as if you wanted to add an advanced version for high levels to have or as a rebirth skill you cant boost the bolt attack at the mo

- perm stat adding - when you were reborn on 1.9 you had a window appear which allowed you to raise base stats on 2.3 its bugged and you cant get rid of the stat window when it pops up

just a few ideas from me

cheers
 
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No offence but by doing this you are trying to encourage mir servers to go the way you like them.
I dont see this as a fair thing to do at all. People should be able to just create a server and not base it on the fact it has to suit you if they want the newer updates.

Just my opinion on this matter.
 

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In which case they can blank this thread Killmaster.

I personally think it's a great idea to make server more unique and creative.

Sounds damn skibby td.
 

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I do love the work you do on the files TD but Hi-Rate servers work for a reson people dont want to spend 24+ hours geting 1 level if they did they would be playing Euro Serves with 10-30% i think are ok not to hard to lvl & when you get Hi'er it gets harder Med stat seer do last even RaGezonE bring out a Hi-Rate server,

Med-Rate servers are what people enjoy.

& i think you relecing a patch every 2months would be gr8 & give you some spear time.
 

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No offence but by doing this you are trying to encourage mir servers to go the way you like them.
I dont see this as a fair thing to do at all. People should be able to just create a server and not base it on the fact it has to suit you if they want the newer updates.

Just my opinion on this matter.
agreed.

if ur gonna release stuff for high rate servers then do it... dont ask wot should and shouldnt be done.

as no offense... u r good with codin and server files, but i think ur ideas and opinions on servers are totally ****.

high rate r way better.
 

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Server name : Mir Revenge
Exp Rate : x26
Top 5 : 73 x 2 72 x 1 70 x 2
3 active GM's
player count around 200 between 10am and 3 am (active player count of 130 ish)

Love the work you have done with the server files. The server files as they stand at the moment are like 90% perfect, a few small bugs, which i will tell u about if you talk to me on msn :P

The high rate servers u are talking about are servers that last about 2 months.

server like project 69 which have been around for years would benifit from updates, but i don't think u will be able to tell them wat to do on there server.

/lapta (using somone elses account)
 

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mhh think you lot misunderstood
if i did this i wouldnt be doing it for high rate servers but for low (medium rate)
that'd be the whole point
to counter the high rate servers by offering better quality low/medium rate servers
 

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what exp rate would you consider as med rate ?

i would consider the following servers as this:

MirRevenge - med rate
Bandet - med rate
p69 - low / med rate
destiny of heros - med rate

izar - low rate
ragezone - low rate - but you have already given them more updates then everyone else has
meteora - uses there own custom files made by the other team
 
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i dont know the exact details but i'd say anything over 10x to be high rate (10x is at the edge of med rate already)
obviously it all depends on the rest of the server
i could make a 5x server where ppl go from lvl 1 to 50 in 5 mins (which would be crap aswell)
 

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what exp rate would you consider as med rate ?

i would consider the following servers as this:

MirRevenge - med rate
Bandet - med rate
p69 - low / med rate
destiny of heros - med rate

izar - low rate
ragezone - low rate - but you have already given them more updates then everyone else has
meteora - uses there own custom files made by the other team


Aggree with them.

@TD,

I dont think people will play Low rate server's because of some updates the reson servers like p69 & Revange have big user counts is because people dont what to take a day or week for one level they like Med lvl servers Low rate server's will never get the user counts that Revange & P69 get because whats the point? If people want low rate they will go to euro.

2-10 X Exp = Low-Rate

10-30 X Exp = Med-Rate

30-50 X Exp = Hi-Rate

Thats what i think any way.
 

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Aggree with them.

@TD,

I dont think people will play Low rate server's because of some updates the reson servers like p69 & Revange have big user counts is because people dont what to take a day or week for one level they like Med lvl servers Low rate server's will never get the user counts that Revange & P69 get because whats the point? If people want low rate they will go to euro.

2-10 X Exp = Low-Rate

10-30 X Exp = Med-Rate

30-50 X Exp = Hi-Rate

Thats what i think any way.

i agree with you buddy lol i would say those rates are right but td obviously has other thaughts i would say anything below x15 is low rate

of course you can make a server with x2 exp where you get to 100 in 1 hour with changing and customising the exp table its not hard, what would be good is if you released the updates for everyone not just a select few servers of your choice after all the source that these files are built from was released to the whole of the community not just a few.

edted: sorry if i missed any servers off the list
 
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No offence but by doing this you are trying to encourage mir servers to go the way you like them.
I dont see this as a fair thing to do at all. People should be able to just create a server and not base it on the fact it has to suit you if they want the newer updates.

Just my opinion on this matter.

totally agree m8.
 

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what exp rate would you consider as med rate ?

i would consider the following servers as this:

MirRevenge - med rate
Bandet - med rate
p69 - low / med rate
destiny of heros - med rate

izar - low rate
ragezone - low rate - but you have already given them more updates then everyone else has
meteora - uses there own custom files made by the other team

Meteora is probably around the same exp rate as P69, maybe a little higher. Not that it really matters for this thread lol :P
 

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yeh, i didnt really put meteora in any catagory as its not td's files its the other development teams ones sorry my original post didnt really make that clear looks like ive put it in low rate catagory
 

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I really feel that the files should be made for whoever wants to make a server not depending on the rate it is.
You cant council out some servers as you like. If Im misunderstanding this please put me right.
 

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No worries :)

My thoughts on TD's suggestion, i think it's a good idea. Lets face it most of the 2.3 servers out there are pretty much the same anyway. So they might as well get updates and be similar rather than get no updates and be similar.
 

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Not sure if the two people involved would mind me posting this but
Hell server run by Hells Queen, and jasper who do all the hard work involved with servers every weekend im sure they would be interested in your proposals.

exp rate x3
top 5 player levels
MoonZ 50
casino 50
Blizzard 48
Lemonade 47
battlestar 47

amount of gm's 3 they are hells and jasper and Advisor (me) but i only look around for new stuff to add as and when possible but i do make an appearance quite often.
 

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Server name : Mir Revenge
Exp Rate : x26
Top 5 : 73 x 2 72 x 1 70 x 2
3 active GM's
player count around 200 between 10am and 3 am (active player count of 130 ish)

Love the work you have done with the server files. The server files as they stand at the moment are like 90% perfect, a few small bugs, which i will tell u about if you talk to me on msn :P

The high rate servers u are talking about are servers that last about 2 months.

server like project 69 which have been around for years would benifit from updates, but i don't think u will be able to tell them wat to do on there server.

/lapta (using somone elses account)
u forgot 2 mention ur servers corrupt and bans ppl for no reason :agree:

mhh think you lot misunderstood
if i did this i wouldnt be doing it for high rate servers but for low (medium rate)
that'd be the whole point
to counter the high rate servers by offering better quality low/medium rate servers
wots ur problem with high rate? i dont understand why ur such a arse about it... u could rly help some1 make a rly good high rate server that loads would play with the stuff u can do with files.

ppl say high rate have a short life span... but its not if done properly... limits are like 65k level and 65k stats... could do ne thing.

low rate is for euro.

in all honesty i would love for some1 to release a set of files that blow urs away TD, that are meant for low med or high... as u rly are a nob imo.
just cause u dont like high rate dont mean every1 else should hate them.
 
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