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High rate is an illusion, Balance is the important factor, there’s a mentality that bigger or higher is better when in reality it is the same if balanced correctly.
 

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My server is one of few low rate servers and probably won't need half of the features you plan to add, i think it would be a better idea of contacting and playing on a few servers and releasing the source so they can add their own ideas.

I'm currently working on things that most would think is impossible to add to mir by using complex scripting, having the source would just make my life alot easier.

Plus this way it will mean you won't need to work on them atall if you so wish, if i was to ask you to code every single thing i have planned then my server wouldn't exactly be *unique* so to speak.
 

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u forgot 2 mention ur servers corrupt and bans ppl for no reason :agree:


wots ur problem with high rate? i dont understand why ur such a arse about it... u could rly help some1 make a rly good high rate server that loads would play with the stuff u can do with files.

ppl say high rate have a short life span... but its not if done properly... limits are like 65k level and 65k stats... could do ne thing.

low rate is for euro.

in all honesty i would love for some1 to release a set of files that blow urs away TD, that are meant for low med or high... as u rly are a nob imo.
just cause u dont like high rate dont mean every1 else should hate them.

you do enjoy insulting people when they are asking for suggestions dont you, maybe if you actually thought about what you were going to say before just typing any old insult maybe people might take you a little more seriously.

and for the record it was laptas server mate, you think your above the rules, you got yourself banned, if it doesnt matter to you why do you seem to bring it up where ever you post. Get over mir revenge, you seem to be facinated with it even after being ban from it, maybe you need to see a doctor.

@TD, The idea to try and balence out the highs rates / low rates seems sensible, but it would seem to me that High rates and PVP seem to go hand in hand, Maybe if you could create something for the low rates that would encourage team work and the pvp element.

im sure you remember back in the day people used to work together to kill stuff.

but like a couple of others have said, limiting the updates to only a couple of server could be irritating for quite a few (i seem to remember a TDB timer being added, due to you not like wars very much :P)

all that said though, having a regular 2 month update would help out a lot of people.

(just for the record, Meds- Low rates are mor emy cuppa tea, but i dont really get the time to spend leveling so thats why i tend to aim for more High-med)

All best
 
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well as you all might have noticed i've been inactive lately (been playing soma tbh)
i've been wondering on how to proceed in the future
it's becoming obvious that atm the only servers that are really getting 50+ users are high exp ones

now as you prob all know i dont like those and never will
this is my proposal:
i dont wanna be working on mir full time atm but i'm considering to do an update every month or 2 (real update not small quickfixes)

HOWEVER i'd only do this to a limited amount of servers
ontop of that there would be sorta rules apply'd (not saying hosts wont have the chance to make desisions on their own i dont want all the servers to be exact copy's
example: if i added a new high lvl spell i would possible ask the hosts not to give it away to every high lvl but make it semi rare
another example: if i added some special summon i would ask the hosts not to make it a super mob that kills everything in 1 hit

anyway made this topic is to see which hosts might be interested and what ppl think about the idea
(btw feel free to tell hosts about this topic (hint))
would like to get an idea of the servers online atm
information:
exp rate
top 5 player levels
amount of gm's
any other info that would influence my desision (like special things about the server which would make me see its a server worth working on and not just a basic drag and drop server with a few db edits)


TD stop trying to monopolise private servers ...

You took from an OPEN SOURCE project ...
you labbelled it as your own ... lomcn staff bent over backwards on their own rules to accomodate you , which is shameful tbh ...
And every project using your file set should be goddamn ashamed .. they are helping you kill Mir ...

And now you are trying to directly influence server staff with this stupid post ... if anybody hands over control of their content / updates to you .. they would have to be an idiot ...

The sad thing is without TDs half stolen DM2 files .. the Open source fileset would have been more concentrated on, and finished by now, Mir would be flourishing with so many Unique servers and ideas...
TD you made an attempt at a server ... and its clearly CLEARLY flopped ... RZ Lowrate has the same usercount as 1.4 servers recently released (3 year old files .. GF) .. I think you need to accept your crap at being a member of server staff ... and while your good at coding the direction you want to take mir in gets pissed all over by the usercount of MirRevenge (the exact kind of server you dislike) ...

Once the Hero files come around .. hopefully everyone will migrate away from DM2 .. and youll be left with nothing ... all the actions youve taken from being a corrupt GM on RZ to trying to control Mir from the inside out .. everything pisses me off :D lol ...

not saying hosts wont have the chance to make desisions on their own

....LOL .. the "chance"??? get over yourself ... 2.3 is fine without you now ...
 
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TD your wrong, its not about the rate its about balance.

I can see why you are against hr though with the amount that open and close so quick.

But the fact is players like hr as much as players like lr, you cant really punish hr and reward lr that is what you will be doing.

I urge you to rethink your idea here....
 

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to DavidShaw, where you think 2.3 will go from now without any codes of any sort?
If he isnt to start coding and releasing a few updates now and then, then DM2 is dead unless someone starts from the SVN files and codes up.

I think half of the stuff you directed at TD was uncalled for.
The only thing I have to say which i mentioned at the opening of this thread is that it seems that TD might want servers to go the way he wants them, other than that there isnt no need to flame him at all. Hes done extremely well to code mir for us to be so upto date.
 

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lol @ all you ppl
well i guess you could say since you all like the idea so much i wont be bothering
if i do work on mir again it'll be rz only (maybe shensoma dunno i kinda like them :p)
you lot really need to start thinking
basicaly most of you are saying i should be wasting countless hrs doing stuff i dont like just to please you.
it doesnt matter if others like hr or if you like hr
i dont like it so i'm not gonna waste my time on it, not even gonna bother trying to argue with davidshaw cause obviously he hasnt got a clue what he's saying :p
 

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yeah hes done well to partly code the svn files, with help from alot of other people. then decide not to release anymore, but just to release binarys with his name on it.

all td has done is put us back where we started, relying on someone else to release exes in order to get the newest updates. nothing more.

td's files shld have never been allowed on this forum, end of.
 

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The td files have given us so much more. We would be stuck at ledu still if you ask me. I think it was a good idea for them to allow the files on this forum.
 

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lol @ all you ppl
well i guess you could say since you all like the idea so much i wont be bothering
if i do work on mir again it'll be rz only (maybe shensoma dunno i kinda like them :p)
you lot really need to start thinking
basicaly most of you are saying i should be wasting countless hrs doing stuff i dont like just to please you.
it doesnt matter if others like hr or if you like hr
i dont like it so i'm not gonna waste my time on it, not even gonna bother trying to argue with davidshaw cause obviously he hasnt got a clue what he's saying :p

Dont argue with me, because you cant .. if youve got time to include my name in a reply , youve got time to form a rational arguement ...

TD , I know ****all about coding ... However I have gods gift of common sense :
"I'm not coding for HR servers that I dont like"
Any piece of code you add into the DM2 Files can be used on EITHER highrate servers OR lowrate servers ...
You didnt code DM2 from scratch, you stole DM2 and just added some fixes here and there ...
The greatest slap in the face for you is that people using your .. I mean people using *the* stolen files you fixed ... Are having better success with their servers .. than your server ... Now your trying to Latch yourself onto other server teams .... LOL

and Farapit is 100% correct ...

Open source projects are designed so that small groups of people with little coding experience can huddle up and continously work on a project.
What you did was Steal other peoples hard work .. apply a fix here and there ... then write it off as your own ... Which has now damaged the morale of people doing the open source project and almost killed it ...

Youve got the cheek to come here "making proposals" when The SINGLE biggest Hinderence to English private servers so far has been you raping the Opensource project with your power hungry stupidity that will eventually set us back a year when you CBA to update anymore ...
The longer people rely on TDs files ... the more chance mir will die when he decides to stop updates / fixes ...

TD you are deluded if you think that peoples appreciation towards you is genuine, everyone knows you fecked the opensource ... people just tolerate you coz they need your bug fixes ... ultimately your just being used because even though people hate your attitude , they want your releases ... NightNight and "GF" ^_^
 
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A simple way to add new magic graphics to the wil that the server would recognise as new and be able to put them to an existing spell would be useful for everyone, especially myself. :tongue1:
So for example you could have Fireball, using the fireball graphic and fireball coded spell. Then IceBall, which uses a new graphic and the fireball coded spell.

Apparently(im not really 100% sure) atm you can only use a spell + the graphics provided in the wils together. Therefore you'd have to change the images for fireball to get iceball, thus loosing fireball.

I know this is probably a crap request, seeing as you can quite easily code brand new spells. But to all of us code illiterate people a simple method of doing this would be most useful.
 

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wow this thread is depressing lol. why is it going to set us back a year :/?

isnt there any other teams that are working on other files?
 

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Dont argue with me, because you cant .. if youve got time to include my name in a reply , youve got time to form a rational arguement ...

TD , I know ****all about coding ... However I have gods gift of common sense :
"I'm not coding for HR servers that I dont like"
Any piece of code you add into the DM2 Files can be used on EITHER highrate servers OR lowrate servers ...
You didnt code DM2 from scratch, you stole DM2 and just added some fixes here and there ...
The greatest slap in the face for you is that people using your .. I mean people using *the* stolen files you fixed ... Are having better success with their servers .. than your server ... Now your trying to Latch yourself onto other server teams .... LOL

and Farapit is 100% correct ...

Open source projects are designed so that small groups of people with little coding experience can huddle up and continously work on a project.
What you did was Steal other peoples hard work .. apply a fix here and there ... then write it off as your own ... Which has now damaged the morale of people doing the open source project and almost killed it ...

Youve got the cheek to come here "making proposals" when The SINGLE biggest Hinderence to English private servers so far has been you raping the Opensource project with your power hungry stupidity that will eventually set us back a year when you CBA to update anymore ...
The longer people rely on TDs files ... the more chance mir will die when he decides to stop updates / fixes ...

TD you are deluded if you think that peoples appreciation towards you is genuine, everyone knows you fecked the opensource ... people just tolerate you coz they need your bug fixes ... ultimately your just being used because even though people hate your attitude , they want your releases ... NightNight and "GF" ^_^

How he got the files and updated them is up to him but not showing him some sort of gratitude or respect for his time and effort is just lame and outright disrespectful.
 

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Be greatful for what he has done... where would the project be atm if he wasnt to code the stuff he has? Still at the same version of the SVN? Yeah brilliant.
 

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lol @ all you ppl
well i guess you could say since you all like the idea so much i wont be bothering
if i do work on mir again it'll be rz only (maybe shensoma dunno i kinda like them :p)
what about Hell Server :( .
great friendly if small community of players , low rate server and a great team working on it jasper and hells included.
 

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Be greatful for what he has done... where would the project be atm if he wasnt to code the stuff he has? Still at the same version of the SVN? Yeah brilliant.

it would probably be more upto date then it is now. the team wldnt have had a dispute and decided to stop continueing with the svn. maybe it wld have progressed slower but i still think we'd be atleast at the point where we have now.

i really dont see what we've accomplished here. once td decides to quit updating these files, everyone using them is either stuck using slowly outdating files or forced to revert back to outdated svn files.

thats why its putting mir back a year.

there was no reason to stop working on the svn and release binarys. if you dont like mir, stop working on it, if you dont like the team, setup your own svn reposit, but why the fk force people to use binarys again?! its just ****ing stupid.
 

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it would probably be more upto date then it is now. the team wldnt have had a dispute and decided to stop continueing with the svn. maybe it wld have progressed slower but i still think we'd be atleast at the point where we have now.

i really dont see what we've accomplished here. once td decides to quit updating these files, everyone using them is either stuck using slowly outdating files or forced to revert back to outdated svn files.

thats why its putting mir back a year.

there was no reason to stop working on the svn and release binarys. if you dont like mir, stop working on it, if you dont like the team, setup your own svn reposit, but why the fk force people to use binarys again?! its just ****ing stupid.

Correct Correct Correct and CORRECT ...

It will soon be coming up on a Year since the SVN files were practically stopped due to the dispute over TD "shegging" the files ...
If TD did not touch the DM2 files in the first place ... people would have concentrated on the SVN .. and by now we would have 100% OPEN SOURCE fully up to date Mir 2.3 ... do you know how many months its been???

And lets just get 1 thing straight ... This forum I believe was created on the basis of SHARING information .. not stealing ...

What part of TDs actions can ANYONE see as an honest contribution, for most people on these forums who release ... simply the praise they receive from others is reward enough ... TD is practically holding owners to ransom ("adhere to conditions or I wont help you") and wants to be 'responsible' for the running of every mir server .. I think this thread speaks for itself ...???

He has not implemented any unique Idea's into the files ...
Its the chinese situation all over again...

The sooner people delete his files and revert back to the SVN updating the better ...
He is in no way doing ****all for the good of mir .. more so for his own personal 'fame' (although everyone hates him for his decisions) and benefit ...
 

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i thought files were open source.... so if i got codes (which i have) and work on them and release server files, im a thief i dont get that bit,

he has saved alot of servers time and effort coding these files himself, for what????? people ripping the crap outta him????, come on, if files are not 1.9 or 1.4 what server files are people using???? oh yeah td files....... get it straight, td has helped alot of people out sorting server out for them,
basically, if td started releasing bineries, thats no reason for people to stop coding, so, unleashed unleased bineries, so that means people are gonna stop codinh..... think not, i still coding them, even though bineries were released, now the source is kept for certain people,....omg, so what........ u can still code u know

i have people who have no knowl;edge in php, html, xml, .net, BUT they have now started to learn it, u know why, coz they willing to help././././

VirUs
 

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Yeah its all fair and well that people will revert back to the SVN ones but its so far behind and with no one working on a project with them it will take some time to get anywhere near the td files. in my opinion anyway.
 
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