RE: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

[konnichiwa]

RE: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

Why was the last thread closed??

Anyway, I hadnt posted my thoughts.

According to the news footage, they say the tape(s) "Show the nose of the plane skidding across the ground, before plowing into the pentagon." However, as everyone who's watched 9/11 consp video knows, ALL the land in the direct path of the plane is not damaged, apart from all those light poles which have been shown in previous news footage to bring a plane down instantly.

If the US Gov thinks that releasing ... what... 5, 6? Extra frames? Is going to convince us otherwise of what happened that day, they need to think again.

The video does not account for the missing plane, and the type and magnitude of damage done.

Also, please remove that damn new smiley.

Reading material:
Pearl Harbour

 

[Blaminator]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

Why do you want to remove my face? It brings life to this forum

:blam:

 

[NickAKAVexus]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

I thinm its rather.. annoying. :tongue1:

Also I agree konni, also the single frame just doesn't look like a passenger air plane.

 

[Peart]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

the 9/11 Truth movement doesn't even believe that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon. There were hundreds of eye witnesses claiming they saw an airplane hit the pentagon.

Only the dumbest of the dumb still won't accept that a plane hit the pentagon.

Plane wreckage was found at the ****ing crash site for gods sake, how about you explain that? Did Bush's sekrat agents open up invisible black holes that immidiately shower the area in 757 debris?

OR was it a ****ing plane that hit the pentagon, and not a cruise missile which would not have been able to launch without a good chunk of the military knowing. But i suppose that the hundreds of army men, eye witnesses and politicians that would have to be involved are all lying. :tard: :tard: :tard:

You could have been one of the terrorists flying the planes into the Pentagon and you'd still say that it was a government conspiracy. Just admit that regardless of all evidence, suggesting one thing or the other, you made up your mind some time ago and regardless of any evidence or argument, you will only believe what you want to believe.

:tard:

 

[NickAKAVexus]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

It wasn't a 757 that hit it genius. :middle:

 

[Peart]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

Yes it was you conspiring little ass, you obviously didnt even begin to understand my post. Go **** yourself

 

[konnichiwa]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

Just admit that regardless of all evidence, suggesting one thing or the other, you made up your mind some time ago and regardless of any evidence or argument, you will only believe what you want to believe.

I think the meager fact that we are discussing this shows that I have an open mind and will belive the version of events that:

a) Looks most realistic.
b) Appears more likely.

The main thing that forces me to belive a plane didnt hit the pentagon, is the type and magnitude of damange caused. The damage is just not consitant with a plane! The fact there is no holes where the engines MUST have entered is the major qualifying fact. Whats your explanation on that?



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:imwstupid

 

[urbanfox]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

It was closed... because I closed it?!?!?!

The idea of a missile is explained to death in another thread if you would just use the search function.

Also, that video is not a couple frames extra, it's a security cam, that's the way it is, it's not a million dollar HDTV movie camera...

I would also like to note that would be one HUGE ass missile...

But, I'm sure things like trajectory are not within your world of logic.

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/html4ever/020910.Sozen.Pentagon.html

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/cgvlab/projects/pentagon.htm

 

[mutatedkbass]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

www.pentagonstrike.co.uk

 

[Blaminator]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

mutated k bass i haven't seen you around for ages

 

[Peart]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

I like how you dodge all the hard questions and dont come up with a solution for anything that i brought up. Its the same thing every time with you tinfoil hat whack-jobs.

Ive got your engine impact evidence right here. What happeed there? Did the missile fire another missile at the last second just to make dumbasses like me believe it was a plane? Yeah, that appears most likely, yeah that looks the most realistic :tard:.

By the way, what kind of missile do you think they used?

I guess the missile was also equipped with landing gear and jet engines. The very presense of these things is enough to blow your conspiracy out of the water

But i guess youre just going to ignore all of that, arent you? Because youre simply not gonna believe anything if it involves being sided with the government.

 

[konnichiwa]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

I asked you directly, where did the engines go? Where is the point of impact for them, or the wings? If there is no hole for the engines, then, common sense will tell you the engines should be OUTSIDE the building, you expect us to belive the plane just folded up and slid inside the building?

Answer this question in a perfectly logically explainable way, and I will say, Yes, your right, I see, well done.

That link showing 'proof' does not even contain the word 'engine' or 'wing'.
I'm not saying that debre is not there, but there are no large peices of the plane that can be recognisable.

Do not expect us to take you seriously when you dodge questions like this.

Its closed when everyones finished, not before.

 

[Peart]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

So you only believe links if they have specific words in them? Here it is again, now with the word engine in it. True now, right :agree:? Now that we've got that settled, what else is that picture going to be? Whats your explanation? The pentagon is the defense headquaters of America, it is made from reinforced conctrete, plane wings are not made from diamond adamantium alloy with chainsaws and demolition balls attached to them or whatever, fuselage is amazingly weak, it gets ripped to shreds, hence the lack of bare engine shrapnel and coverings. I'm sure youve seen the impact video by now, there was a huge explosion, the plane isnt just going to sit there looking slighty singed after something like that. There have been tests to prove this.

I seem to remember a hilarious conspiracy image that compared the size of a boeing 757 to the size of the pengtagon, claiming it was about a quater of the size of one wall.

# The length of the outside wall on any side of the pentagon is 921 feet.
# The wingspan of a 757 is 124 feet 10 inches.
# Now, everyone can agree that 921/125= roughly 7.4 right?

Not really that small, is it?



it's been reported by at least a dozen different sources (including conspiracy theory sites) to be a 16 to 20 foot hole. That is really interesting when you take into account the fact that the 757 body is 12 ft 4in wide and 13 ft 6in high. The 757 is basically a cylinder that is 13 feet across. It then should not be surprising that it would create something around a thirteen foot hole in the side of the building. I exclude the wings because they simply dont stand a chance against the penagon, and it is stupid to think that theyd be able to create a hole in the wall of a building made entirely of reinforced concrete.

Look closer at my last post, you can clearly see the rim of a wheel, landing gear and bits of engine on top of other bits and bobs. Where did these come from by your conspiracy?

again

Where did these come from by your conspiracy?

Where did these come from by your conspiracy?

Where did these come from by your conspiracy?

Where did these come from by your conspiracy?

how does your conspiracy answer the the undeniable presence of aeroplane shrapnel????

 

[HunterrrR]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

Why cant you people just accept it? And be done with it, nothing good will come from this. Even if it was a conspiracy it happend in 2001 like 5 years ago and you people are still going on about it. Say you actually did find there is a conspiracy what will you do? what will happen? NOTHING.

And why are people always looking for a way to explain this, i mean how many planes do u see crashing in the same way, at the same speed etc?

Like if you cannot explain something its immediatly, a conspiracy ..

 

[konnichiwa]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

You should examine every scrap of doubt until there is no proof otherwise, especially if it means the wrong outcome could cause a war! If you let people get away with things like this, they will do it again, and again. 5 years is not a long time in the grand scheme of things.

I do not know where those bits came from, however, the engine that the news pictured is not the engine of a 757, as proved in various news articles since the incident. All those bits, as the news say, are small enough to be carried by hand. I'm not putting it past the US goverment to plant them there, i'm not saying they did, just not putting it past them. As you say, the walls are made of reinforced concrete, if that is so, and the engines did not have the ballast and kinetic energy to blast through the outer wall, how did the plane (which is, a light aluminium hollow shell, made to carry people) manage to punch through all those reinforced walls (i dont recall the actual number) with a nice clean round hole.

I cannot see the pictures in your post, as they are prevented from being directly linked.

 

[MiloFoxburr]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

I just refuse to beleive that out of the 100's of people(it was hardly just bush and other high up people) needed for such an operation none of them have ever come out and confessed... One of them was bound to of felt guilty and told all

 

[Peart]

Re: Time to shove that conspiracy up your ass

ROFL, like your conspiracy doesnt have any doubt :lol:

here are the important pics:
Diagram showing that the whole is not neat, tidy, and is not small.




Some of the debris pics i posted:




And your ''planted by hand'' theory just proves to me that you wont listen to any kind of logic or reasoning. You simply have to believe its a conspiracy, theres no 2 ways about it for you. Planted by hand :lol: yeah ok :lol:, infont of the hundreds of witnesses, firemen and officials. I can just imagine it now.

Bush: "hey everyone, look over there, is that a clown?!?! quick bring in the debris, its not like anyone will notice or anything lol"

The crash dynamics worked like so: A large hollow tube, with a belly full of luggage, a passenger bay with 60 people, and engines full of fuel smashed into the side of an almost solid object while moving at a tremendous speed (somewhere around 350-400mph). When the 225,000lb+ plane hit, it smashed apart with such force from the crash that it became like one massive column of liquid (no, the plane didn't melt or turn into liquid, it just acted like one physically - mountainslides act the same way, a million tons of rock acts like a large field of liquid during a landslide even if no water is present). All the small parts, luggage, people, seats, and all the tens of thousands of pounds of fuel acting like a massive river came crashing into the wall of the Pentagon. This force burst through the outside wall and flowed through the inside to the next wall, and momentum carried this mass until it finally ran out of inertia at the 3rd ring.

heres a diagram:


How could a missile plough through like that? They explode on impact, a missile would simply destroy a chunk of wall, not smash through.

EDIT:

heres another interesting picture: