Really Legal ???

[Melfin]

Are these Server files of holley 3.55 and king and others, really legal to use ?? I think that the Game owner of Mir3 "Wemade" got a Copyright on that game ?? For sure the European Servers are offline, but is it really legal to open a new MIR3 Server ??

 

[czeldabolg]

The answer is no, private servers are illegal. Wemade haven't taken any action against mir for a very long time though. Take a gander at the thread:
http://www.lomcn.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?43509-GUIDE-Your-server-and-the-LAW

Some of it is outdated but most of it still holds.

 

[Melfin]

What would be consequences? I only mean for me as german guy. Still hope that it wouldnt be illegal. Iam a little bit paranoid at this

 

[taifun]

yes sure, and can u tell me a server for who deserrve to get infraction punish?

 

[Prai]

You could be done with copyright infringement.



But don't worry yourself too much, we've been here years and nothings happened.

 

[Alecs]

If you say it's a non-profit server there's nothing they can do against you.

 

[Prai]

If you say it's a non-profit server there's nothing they can do against you.

Wrong.

 

[czeldabolg]

Taifun just to point out we're not wemade we don't infract etc over servers, wemade are the official owners of mir. And it can be a court case, generally wemade contacts the server asking them to take it down failing to comply etc they can be taken to court.

Or that's how it worked for WoW atleast.

If you say it's a non-profit server there's nothing they can do against you.

LOL! That's the best load of crap i've read in a while, thanks for that.

 

[Alecs]

Maybe in your country it's different but here, as I said, there's nothing they can do. ¿Why do you think blizzard doesn't act against 99% of wow servers?

EDIT: Anyway, Wemade is not Blizzard. They won't spend money to shut down a server. Mir is and old game and they wouldn't take any benefit from shuting down a server.

 

[mapafail]

Sorry Alecs7k I have to put you right again.

Just because a company such as wemade or blizzard doesn't do anything with regards to private servers, doesn't mean you are protected in your country from prosecution. Just by running the emulators you are in breach of copyright, by using the wemade client you are in breach of Intellectual rights. By accepting donations for your server, is classed as making a profit from it, hence wemade took down several servers in Asia a couple of years back. So don't think you are protected by laws in your country, because your not, as intellectual property rights are what they will get you on if they wanted to and your country's laws are not going to protect you from this, as it is a recognized international law.

The only reason these companies don't actually do anything, is as you will find with lomcn, as there are active wemade staff on this site. Is they use the information from private servers, to better their own and majority of the time, these staff will ask on how things are fixed or how this and that works.

@Prai - I don't really want to get into a debate over this, but lomcn was instructed by wemade several years ago to have certain content removed from the site. Beechy and Hazuki are the best to advise on this, there has also been several things brought up by wemade over the years to do with this site, which at each point lomcn has complied to there requests.

But anyone thinking they are protected by running a server, are very much miss-guided in what they think.

 

[Prai]

Sorry Alecs7k I have to put you right again.

Just because a company such as wemade or blizzard doesn't do anything with regards to private servers, doesn't mean you are protected in your country from prosecution. Just by running the emulators you are in breach of copyright, by using the wemade client you are in breach of Intellectual rights. By accepting donations for your server, is classed as making a profit from it, hence wemade took down several servers in Asia a couple of years back. So don't think you are protected by laws in your country, because your not, as intellectual property rights are what they will get you on if they wanted to and your country's laws are not going to protect you from this, as it is a recognized international law.

The only reason these companies don't actually do anything, is as you will find with lomcn, as there are active wemade staff on this site. Is they use the information from private servers, to better their own and majority of the time, these staff will ask on how things are fixed or how this and that works.

@Prai - I don't really want to get into a debate over this, but lomcn was instructed by wemade several years ago to have certain content removed from the site. Beechy and Hazuki are the best to advise on this, there has also been several things brought up by wemade over the years to do with this site, which at each point lomcn has complied to there requests.

But anyone thinking they are protected by running a server, are very much miss-guided in what they think.

And your point is, you've confused me on why the @Prai about it....

 

[Alecs]

Sorry Alecs7k I have to put you right again.

Just because a company such as wemade or blizzard doesn't do anything with regards to private servers, doesn't mean you are protected in your country from prosecution. Just by running the emulators you are in breach of copyright, by using the wemade client you are in breach of Intellectual rights. By accepting donations for your server, is classed as making a profit from it, hence wemade took down several servers in Asia a couple of years back. So don't think you are protected by laws in your country, because your not, as intellectual property rights are what they will get you on if they wanted to and your country's laws are not going to protect you from this, as it is a recognized international law.

The only reason these companies don't actually do anything, is as you will find with lomcn, as there are active wemade staff on this site. Is they use the information from private servers, to better their own and majority of the time, these staff will ask on how things are fixed or how this and that works.

Accepting donations isn't classed as making profit. Try to run a pay to play server and see what they will do then.

I've never said you're protected by running a server, I said they can't do nothing against YOU (make you pay or go to jail lol). The only thing they can do is shutting down the server, and this will never happen with mir.

 

[mapafail]

And your point is, you've confused me on why the @Prai about it....

I was pointing out, that you was mistaken about your comment, as lomcn has had dealings with wemade and have made necessary changes over the years to accommodate these requests from wemade.

Accepting donations isn't classed as making profit. Try to run a pay to play server and see what they will do then.

I've never said you're protected by running a server, I said they can't do nothing against YOU (make you pay or go to jail lol). The only thing they can do is shutting down the server, and this will never happen with mir.

In the eyes of a court, making money from donations is classed as a profit (Donations have to be declared to the taxman in the UK and yes you can face prison for running a server and not declaring donations, as it's called tax dodging.), especially for private servers and yes they can make you pay (They have done with several servers in Asia) and make you pay a hell of a lot in fines. So don't be complacent thinking nothing will ever happen, as WeMade can and they have done in the past.

 

[Prai]

But my advice was about servers, not LOMCN.

Please stop making things up.

 

[mapafail]

But my advice was about servers, not LOMCN.

Please stop making things up.

Really, I'm sure this comments is related to the site.

But don't worry yourself too much, we've been here years and nothings happened.

Oh and how can facts actually be made up, your way of thinking is slightly de-creadable.

 

[Prai]

Well seeing as the whole thread is about servers being illegal I would of thought you'd of clocked on.


Backward.

And making thing up ie taking what I say out of context.

 

[Koriban]

Mapadale can you not just **** off already? You have to be the most annoying senseless idiot I've ever met. You forever try to increase your massive head with even more ego by putting people down or infinitely correcting people. Stop stroking your e-penis, and move on, you've been banned/Muted like, 4 times now?? (*awaits correction*)

As for private servers, Wemade won't do a thing, don't be paranoid about it. A lot of the legal framework goes on in the background that you'll never see, in short, make a server, enjoy it.

 

[TheDayIDie]

in my eyes if the source is not directly leeched or stolen from WEMADE then they cannot sue you for copyright due to it not being their content..
This makes the content your own (like the delphi Mir3) it's all made code of lomcn members..
may be wrong but thats how i see it

(They could possibly sue you for stealing and using their images though) if my statement is true

 

[Karl]

Making money or not from a server, as Blizz (And i'm sure i've seen WeMade have done in the past) has done is prove that by you having a server online is taking money away from them so even if you have a server that is absolutely free with no sort of donations or anything, as long as they can prove loss of earnings they could still have you bang to rights.

 

[mapafail]

Mapadale can you not just **** off already? You have to be the most annoying senseless idiot I've ever met. You forever try to increase your massive head with even more ego by putting people down or infinitely correcting people. Stop stroking your e-penis, and move on, you've been banned/Muted like, 4 times now?? (*awaits correction*)

As for private servers, Wemade won't do a thing, don't be paranoid about it. A lot of the legal framework goes on in the background that you'll never see, in short, make a server, enjoy it.

I have a very big E-Penis that I love stroking all day long and next point, you've never even met me. You just see a words on a screen, so don't act like you know me ok.

My point is not putting anyone down at all, it's pointing out what is correct in regards to the server files we all use.

And Prai really, I don't see a server from you. So your comment to me, is with regards to lomcn and not a server, so please don't come with the big I am attitude, it wore thin a long time ago.

@TheDayIDie - Where do you think a lot of the files come from and the sheer fact we've used WeMade's FTP for years to keep content up to date.