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Important Required, one or two passionate Archers.
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Managed to get on via the work wifi, ill be on from about 7:15 would like to be considered for this as i've been making alot of suggestions and think iv got a good idea of where the class needs to be withouy wanting it to be OP
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- Dec 2, 2005
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its just shadow step with different images then? personally I think it should be the same as it is but instead of having to re cast it to move, make it automatically move after 2-3 seconds... This makes it different from SS and makes archers play sneaky.. Drop clone, if players run towards clone break it (distance) could be a interesting way.
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After playing archer for past 3 months its great that were getting a little tlc , thank you
if you need help testing im very willing to help
/Imhotep
if you need help testing im very willing to help
/Imhotep
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Im thinking maybe a 50/50 chance to instant move, so that the decoy is actualy a decoy, with this change it sounds like you may be able to move from 1side of the screen to the other, shoot 2-3times before they run next to you and repeat, having instant move on a ranged class is dangerouse--
Maybe give it a global cool down so that after instant move you cant shoot for 1-2 seconds making it a fantastic escape spell but not a active damage tactic.
More will be known from testing but its a massive positive that they are getting looked at and dealt with.
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Not sure i want archers teleporting next to me and dropping a 600+ AB instantly.
Maybe give it a global cool down so that after instant move you cant shoot for 1-2 seconds making it a fantastic escape spell but not a active damage tactic.
More will be known from testing but its a massive positive that they are getting looked at and dealt with.
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Not sure i want archers teleporting next to me and dropping a 600+ AB instantly.
Not sure I want Sins teleporting next to me and dropping a 300+ FD and 200+200 double slash, but it happens!!
Am i right in thinking powershot no longer pushes the enemy it hits, but rather the mobs(players) around it? if so large pvp nerf on archer. On the other hand if not, having no cooldown on powershot was extremely OP as previously tested.
not really every other class can still gap close regardless...
Sin - Shadowstep.. next to no cool down 3 secs maybe if that.
War - Shoulder dash no cool down.
Wiz - dont need a gap close met / bliz 1 hit archers.
Tao - support so don't matter.. curse spam group will kill unmovable archer
also you say (OP as previously tested) but shadowstep and other nuke/gap closer's are now in game.
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It has the same effect, but currently it would require 2 key presses to achieve the effect, one to spawn the clone and then another to swap position with it, now it spawns and swaps in one...
My thought on reducing the cooldown on power shot is to provide Archers a means of keeping warriors/assassins at bay, warriors and assassins would be required to utilize shadow step/shoulder dash/slashing burst a little better to actually get in and get hold of an Archer...
But your right, if an Archer is able to get power shots off before an enemy has a chance to move then it is OP and maybe the delay needs adjusting...
Sam
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1 small question Samuel , at some point BabyHack or Lilcooldude ( not sure who it was i always mistake them ) said they will change the crafting Arrows for archers aswel , for eg for PlatinumArrows , you need Platinum p12+ ... he said he will change so that you can use multiple platinums to make the arrows just like you use for eg x4 adamantines to craft a gem ... any news on this or did they forget ? :P
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True, but they do need to get right next to you.
Archers will only need to get 1-2 spaces from you, giving them a very strong offence boost that is maybe not needed. Testing will confirm.
I'm not dreading it though, My archer is kitted and ready to go.
One question for Sam.
Will Decoy have a chance to fail?
Currently you cast the decoy 100% effective then you have X chance to fail swapping places on the second cast,
If the first cast is now going to be the teleport itself will the chance to Fail now apply to the first cast instead of the second?
If its 100% effective Archers will have a better teleport skill than an assassin can get at level 48.. as level 3 shadowstep still fails 20% of the time in my experience.
as always I just want a good implementation of a balanced change. I may come across negative but without someone playing devils advocate and looking for breaking points or issues then the final product wont get polished.
- Feb 8, 2011
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So the same implementation remains, the decoy will always spawn, but there is a chance for the swap to fail, the only change is it is now on a single key press.
Sam
I agree with you mate and I hope after Archers and Monks are sorted we can do something similar and get a few people on a test server with the Team and check other classes for balance/bugs/improvements too.
Achieving balance is a constant struggle and with an Archer fix and introduction of a new class, the other 4 will undoubtedly be affected and potentially need little tweaks.
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With out using an my self but sercombing to the fact it fking hurts..
But what is the cd on ab at lvl 3 and is ql going to have a long cd??
Given a couple archers can hit 600 easily and if u stand in mw long enough u will see who. Decreasing that cd by 50% is extreme..? Ab static Ab dead all in a matter of seconds.......
Not saying they don't need looking at but so many measures in 1 go is going to cause mayhem
But what is the cd on ab at lvl 3 and is ql going to have a long cd??
Given a couple archers can hit 600 easily and if u stand in mw long enough u will see who. Decreasing that cd by 50% is extreme..? Ab static Ab dead all in a matter of seconds.......
Not saying they don't need looking at but so many measures in 1 go is going to cause mayhem