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Miriganu

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bound and greed stones shouldnt be ingame. neither should dropping kit and breaking stones when pkd. Death my mobs, sure. PK no.
 

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bound and greed stones shouldnt be ingame. neither should dropping kit and breaking stones when pkd. Death my mobs, sure. PK no.

Disagree.u should drop on pk. If your stupid enough to put yourself at risk. Then its your own fault
 

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Disagree.u should drop on pk. If your stupid enough to put yourself at risk. Then its your own fault

I guess that's the real issue some people are having is what constitutes risk?
- Hunting yes I can understand
- I've been killed quite a few times just going to MW pot shop by FF Wizards and 1hits from Warriors.

There are a lot of people on this server who are ridiculously fast and can hit people even when they are running so there are a number of variables to consider when saying it's there own fault.

I have no issues with dropping on pk but I do have issues with it happening in specific areas (Towns and SW) - Sabuk being a different discussion altogether mind you.
 

Andeh

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I got one shotted with flamingsword by a prick while running between sz and pot shop, luckily, I didnt drop anything. Still I 100% agree that bound and greed stones are stupid items, and do not have a place in mir. They should be removed 100% Mir got its reputation for being relentless when it comes to pvp. You die, you risk losing your gear. Thats how it is, and thats how it should always be. Taking the risk out, is to dumb the game down. Dumbing down the game, will kill it in the end. Look at the likes of world of warcraft for instance. blizzard have dumbed that game down something rotten in the past 4 years, and as a result, they have lost over 6 million subscribers. go figure.

Bound and Greed stones. Remove them!
 

Andeh

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Get rid of bound stones, I miss the good old death drop from pk! And these stones ruined that!

exactly. I mean myself and a few mates, even used to joke to ourselves about going to the shops in town, and having to be careful that we dont get mugged by chavs, otherwise we'll be lying on the ground with pots spewn all over lol. I don't think that should be taken out of mir.
 

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For the record, I hate them... I think we are having a team meet tonight and I will bring them up then.

Sam

Yes remove them from game and watch the cry/quit threads becoz ppl have been pkd or laged and died and dropped there precious pixels
 

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What constitutes risk? LOGGING ON. Nowhere should be safe imho, except maybe inside shops.
 

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Yes remove them from game and watch the cry/quit threads becoz ppl have been pkd or laged and died and dropped there precious pixels
This is the roblem, people get too attached to their items. When they lose one, they get pissed off and quit.

But if they kill someone and get one of their items, they rub it in for weeks. Swings and roundabouts and all that.
 

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This is the roblem, people get too attached to their items. When they lose one, they get pissed off and quit.

But if they kill someone and get one of their items, they rub it in for weeks. Swings and roundabouts and all that.

Honestly skyline, if It was me running the server, I would make changes that I knew were for the better. Changes that the majority were in favour of. Even if it seemed aparent that alot of people would quit. I would just do it personally. If they quit, they quit, but what you will most likely find is that most people will have a moan, claim they will quit, but end up staying anyway. Any change that is in favour of longevity, is a good change, regardless of the kids that piss and moan about them.

Other note worthy changes I would personally make, to improve the longevity of this server include:
Fresh wipe (because of the state the server is in atm, its the easiest solution)
remove bound/greed stones.
remove orbs/gems. slots should be the only form of upgrading items. (that plus refining.)
remove books from shops (except starting books)
reduce exp to 2x euromir
reduce drop rate of mid lvl items like dragonrings/greataxes/magestaffs/rubyrings etc. These were valuable in euromir, they should be valuable here.
reduce bene drop rate, so they only drop from main bosses.
reduce success rate of benes back to how they were in euromir (no +7 luck bullshit)
Bodyluck. If you're a pk'er, then you won't have much luck with bene's/refines etc. This is how I would have it.
nerf Darkarmour. +200HP is op.

Those are just off the top of my head. There will be alot more that I would change.
 
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Honestly skyline, if It was me running the server, I would make changes that I knew were for the better. Changes that the majority were in favour of. Even if it seemed aparent that alot of people would quit. I would just do it personally. If they quit, they quit, but what you will most likely find is that most people will have a moan, claim they will quit, but end up staying anyway. Any change that is in favour of longevity, is a good change, regardless of the kids that piss and moan about them.

Other note worthy changes I would personally make, to improve the longevity of this server include:
Fresh wipe (because of the state the server is in atm, its the easiest solution)
remove bound/greed stones.
remove orbs/gems. slots should be the only form of upgrading items. (that plus refining.)
remove books from shops (except starting books)
reduce exp to 2x euromir
reduce drop rate of mid lvl items like dragonrings/greataxes/magestaffs/rubyrings etc. These were valuable in euromir, they should be valuable here.
reduce bene drop rate, so they only drop from main bosses.
reduce success rate of benes back to how they were in euromir (no +7 luck bullshit)
Bodyluck. If you're a pk'er, then you won't have much luck with bene's/refines etc. This is how I would have it.
nerf Darkarmour. +200HP is op.

Those are just off the top of my head. There will be alot more that I would change.

Yeah then lets stack rocks on our heads until we die
 

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For the record, I hate them... I think we are having a team meet tonight and I will bring them up then.

Sam
Very bad mistake to do that. Another pool wont save people rage quitting then because before I will quit I'll make sure to pk enough wizards.
 

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For the record, I hate them... I think we are having a team meet tonight and I will bring them up then.

Sam

I have no problem with BoundStones being ingame tbh i think they help new comers to make gold and get kit by hunting st7f but what if some idiot ddos the server or the deddi lag and half server drop their kit? gonna be rewind? then what? duppers show?


I've seen people dropping their nice stuff even with BoundStone ingame, lol at all those forum monkeys crying day and night about something.... i don't think server should follow those people, some of them not even play the game just troll on forums.

Also we dont want 30% of server [Carebears] to quit coz they cant PVP and got owned by some no life people like kirk.....the usercount is going down like everyday already :(

Yesturday while server lag bad few minutes, my friend dropped HolyTaoStone because of server fault.... that was lucky as she were wearing boundstone and had HolyTaoStone in bag.....thats 3mil np but what if drop your sword and armor or so?
 
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There needs to be a risk factor in mir... When bound stones are out, people will think twice before taking action... This is how mir should has always been... Make PK justified and stop worrying about people threatening to quit...
 

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There needs to be a risk factor in mir... When bound stones are out, people will think twice before taking action... This is how mir should has always been... Make PK justified and stop worrying about people threatening to quit...

PK is justified u knob, u can pk to win a boss and stuff like that?? and even with BS here ppl dropping items lol

and whats ur ingame name? i cant wait to see you without BS =D
 

Andeh

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Mir was fine before, without boundstones, theres no need for them now. DDOS has always been a problem, so theres no argument.

Take them out.

People like Wildgirl have the kind of attitude that I hate seeing, and tbh, the less people like that playing, the better the server will be.
 
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Skyline

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If they wouldn't be in game, we'd die at first flood and lose kit. GF!!!
Maybe so, but that's all down to risk.

I'm not saying the will be taken out, that's up to the team to decide. I'm just saying I don't like BoundStones and never have.

I've died countless times on servers and lose something nice. Yes it's annoying, but it's all part of the game. One day you kill someone and he drops a nice weapon, you laugh and take the piss, the next day someone kills you and you drop a ring and you get annoyed - **** happens :P

Like I say, I'm not saying remove them I'm just giving my opinion on them.
 
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