Super lag we lost BoundStones

[Prince]

im not fussed either way wether u remove the stones or not BUT Mir has a HUGEEEEEE carebear community just as big as the PK community and alot of these ppl do go threw mir without pking casuing trouble jus minding their own business. dont think be ffair on them if jus cuz stones r removed they get battered by a few plebs that wouldnt norm pk them because they peacefull due to bound stones being out + possiibility of kit

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also TFirm already batter people all over the shot if u remove these stones will only encourage us more and drain ppl like DAngels till they got 0 kit resulting in ppl quittin.

end result = without these stones imo server life span will significantly be reduced.

its a great server atm ok few issues with dedi atm but dont fix what not broken.

 

[WildGirl]

Mir was fine before, without boundstones, theres no need for them now. DDOS has always been a problem, so theres no argument.

Take them out.

People like Wildgirl have the kind of attitude that I hate seeing, and tbh, the less people like that playing, the better the server will be.

Do you hide your in game name or is it the same ? I want to convince you of what I am saying.

I am not looking for you to like me, get a grip of yourself and see ya in game.
EDIT: I knew only those with no kit on them would speak all the bullshit you do.

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im not fussed either way wether u remove the stones or not BUT Mir has a HUGEEEEEE carebear community just as big as the PK community and alot of these ppl do go threw mir without pking casuing trouble jus minding their own business. dont think be ffair on them if jus cuz stones r removed they get battered by a few plebs that wouldnt norm pk them because they peacefull due to bound stones being out + possiibility of kit

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also TFirm already batter people all over the shot if u remove these stones will only encourage us more and drain ppl like DAngels till they got 0 kit resulting in ppl quittin.

end result = without these stones imo server life span will significantly be reduced.

its a great server atm ok few issues with dedi atm but dont fix what not broken.

The problem is we didn't pk many people yet. Those who want BS out here will cry next about losing gear. It's like a kinder-garden here.

 

[d1craig]

Why not make the stones only work if your character is white? If brown you can drop, if yellow you can drop, if red you can drop, I'd even say if you had any pk points you should be able to drop <<< all of that while wearing the bound stone IMO.

Could be difficult to change or implement though. I do t like them at all but seems some will complain enough to turn The GMs rude again lol.

 

[Hoody]

oh no not a bound stone! bloody greedy roms! :P

 

[Andeh]

I actually like the idea of the bound stones only working if you have no pk points. that would protect the people that dont want to pk, but then it would stop you from dropping items when mobs kill you, which I dont think its right.

 

[d1craig]

I actually like the idea of the bound stones only working if you have no pk points. that would protect the people that dont want to pk, but then it would stop you from dropping items when mobs kill you, which I dont think its right.

yes but you can be lured on and drop which aint very fair imo.

 

[Male]

im not fussed either way wether u remove the stones or not BUT Mir has a HUGEEEEEE carebear community just as big as the PK community and alot of these ppl do go threw mir without pking casuing trouble jus minding their own business. dont think be ffair on them if jus cuz stones r removed they get battered by a few plebs that wouldnt norm pk them because they peacefull due to bound stones being out + possiibility of kit

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also TFirm already batter people all over the shot if u remove these stones will only encourage us more and drain ppl like DAngels till they got 0 kit resulting in ppl quittin.

end result = without these stones imo server life span will significantly be reduced.

its a great server atm ok few issues with dedi atm but dont fix what not broken.

Its funny you know, in the bound stone poll YOU leveled the threat of "when we pk all ur kit away ill requote this when u startt crying" at me, yet here your trying to defend me, i am one of thos players who "go threw mir without pking casuing trouble jus minding their own business"

Which side are you on? Carebear or PK, or are you like me and on your own damn side?

Wildgirl out of interest when was the last time you where PK'ed? i can understand you wanting to keep the stones in becuase i sure as hell would be pissed off aout lossing gear to a lagout but when was the last time you died to a player? besides Sarah i mean

 

[WildGirl]

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Wildgirl out of interest when was the last time you where PK'ed? i can understand you wanting to keep the stones in becuase i sure as hell would be pissed off aout lossing gear to a lagout but when was the last time you died to a player? besides Sarah i mean

Sarah pked me ?....anyway last I remember was Kirk 1 hit me at OKS when TDB came out fresh and bugged.

My only concern is for lag outs that WILL happen sooner or later and will be no one's fault. Ain't bothered too much about pvp and boundstone and I feel like reducing the BoundStones drop by a lot would be the right way to proceed here.

 

[Male]

A joke about "FFS MODE SARAH" in the video white tiger uploaded of your orc hunt.

See i understand you point about wanting the stones in for lagouts, hell i think all agree on that point. But if we could remove boundstones BUT still give you an item that will ensure you would not drop if you died in a lagout would you then be willing to give up on bound stones?

 

[greebo]

ppl do go threw mir without pking casuing trouble jus minding their own business. dont think be ffair on them if jus cuz stones r removed they get battered by a few plebs that wouldnt norm pk them because they peacefull due to bound stones being out + possiibility of kit

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also TFirm already batter people all over the shot if u remove these stones will only encourage us more and drain ppl like DAngels till they got 0 kit resulting in ppl quittin.

end result = without these stones imo server life span will significantly be reduced.

its a great server atm ok few issues with dedi atm but dont fix what not broken.

The ppl who just mind their own business can rt and TT from the plebs. The plebs are usually well known and easy to avoid. If the firm want to harrass everyone else out of the server then its doomed anyway. Andeh is right dumbing the game down with easy++++ stats easy luck easy bene easy gems too many pots dropping auto pots bound stones isnt developing mir its taking any of the challenge at all out of a very simple game. Fine coding am sure you had fun thinking of them and finding ways to implement them but please, concentrate on the new stuff dont tinker with the old unless its actually broken.

 

[WildGirl]

The ppl who just mind their own business can rt and TT from the plebs. The plebs are usually well known and easy to avoid. If the firm want to harrass everyone else out of the server then its doomed anyway. Andeh is right dumbing the game down with easy++++ stats easy luck easy bene easy gems too many pots dropping auto pots bound stones isnt developing mir its taking any of the challenge at all out of a very simple game. Fine coding am sure you had fun thinking of them and finding ways to implement them but please, concentrate on the new stuff dont tinker with the old unless its actually broken.

If you take a look on Andehx kit you would be surprised to see no such added items he keeps bragging about.

 

[Skyline]

This whole discussion is really amusing.

Just people people don't have amazing kits doesn't mean their opinion doesn't matter. Just because someone plays more then other doesn;t mean their opinion counts more than others.

 

[Andeh]

I think it's childish to cast your vote based on what you want personally. You should vote based on whats best for the server as a whole. You want bound stones to stay because you dont want to lose your precious op gear? get lost. If you cant vote with a mature attitude, then you're better off not voting at all.

 

[NejDaTurk]

Items should always have a chance of dropping from body/bag regardless of how you die.

 

[FUTURA]

The "put in time and effort" argument is fundamentally flawed in this context. If you are telling people to put time and effort into getting good items, then logically if you then lose an item, by your own argument you should put in time and effort to get it back/get another one.

The "lagout" argument is also flawed...no-online game is without its connection issues, whether locally to the player or on the server. It is a constant that is external to gameplay, and therefore gameplay should not cater for connection issues. If my internet ****ed up while playing Halo 4, IGN are not going to stop me from being penalised for quitting a match.

Furthermore, the whole concept of "balance" and the search for it is to enable new players to have the potential to get to a level playing field with high levels, whether its by getting items from drops or by high levels occasionally losing items, NOT just by amount of time put into playing. The economy will also only be "balanced" if there is transfer of wealth via items and gold on ALL counts (being drops, buying and selling, and obtaining items off others through PKing/fights etc). This will allow for random occurances during gameplay, which makes it more interesting for everyone. You can't regulate everything.

Finally, if you get so pissed of IRL because you lost items on an online game that it affects your mood on a long term basis, then you have deeper issues that need attending do.

Now that I have typed enough coherent things in order for you to be reading this final paragraph, I would just like to say humbana humban humamakanenna..eeeeh macarena AI!

 

[Skyline]

See FUT, people call you a troll.

But you do speak sense... Sometimes.

 

[Andeh]

if you're scared of losing items and take hissy fits when you do, you need to stop playing games, period.
I lost a magicscythe yesterday through gemming. My reaction? oh well, guess I'll go back to using my magestaff....

 

[WildGirl]

This whole discussion is really amusing.

Just people people don't have amazing kits doesn't mean their opinion doesn't matter. Just because someone plays more then other doesn;t mean their opinion counts more than others.

Yes you can be an expert on doing something when you bearly even tried it. Amusing indeed.

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The "put in time and effort" argument is fundamentally flawed in this context. If you are telling people to put time and effort into getting good items, then logically if you then lose an item, by your own argument you should put in time and effort to get it back/get another one.

The "lagout" argument is also flawed...no-online game is without its connection issues, whether locally to the player or on the server. It is a constant that is external to gameplay, and therefore gameplay should not cater for connection issues. If my internet ****ed up while playing Halo 4, IGN are not going to stop me from being penalised for quitting a match.

Furthermore, the whole concept of "balance" and the search for it is to enable new players to have the potential to get to a level playing field with high levels, whether its by getting items from drops or by high levels occasionally losing items, NOT just by amount of time put into playing. The economy will also only be "balanced" if there is transfer of wealth via items and gold on ALL counts (being drops, buying and selling, and obtaining items off others through PKing/fights etc). This will allow for random occurances during gameplay, which makes it more interesting for everyone. You can't regulate everything.

Finally, if you get so pissed of IRL because you lost items on an online game that it affects your mood on a long term basis, then you have deeper issues that need attending do.

Now that I have typed enough coherent things in order for you to be reading this final paragraph, I would just like to say humbana humban humamakanenna..eeeeh macarena AI!

Let's stop comparing mir with other games. Where was you when euro server was flooded for the only purpose of getting item drop from unlucky players that were just about to kill a boss ?!

LMAO at that "Balance" concept of yours. I know theres always someone willing to drop his weapon in a town fight, fair or I'd say stupid enough. Same goes for pvp in general, since here BS already exist and some time and effort was put into them I don't see any reasons to be taken out completly. If they are very epencive and someone dies wearing one it will be same loss as losing his kit...but you wont see anything and that's the problem

 

[Skyline]

Yes you can be an expert on doing something when you bearly even tried it. Amusing indeed.

But... people do play the server, so they have "tried it". i don;t know what point you're trying to prove here. Everyone on this forum has played mir and knows what it is. Just because yo play more than others does not make your opinion matter more.

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I will lock this thread now.

Lag out's are due to the host having issues which are hopefully fixed now, and Sam/Milo are contacting them to try and make sure it doesn't happen again.

There is a thread to discuss the BoundStone's here: http://www.lomcn.org/forum/showthread.php?80472-Removal-of-Bound-Greed-Stones