Suggestion Taoist's need some love!

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WelshSteel

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@ChronicleGM @Skyline wait wait what relevance is the comfort of lvling a tao to let's say lvl 45 have to do with the thread I've posted? this is a discussion about the balance of Tao's (of an established level, a Tao is "online" at the lvl 47 mark if you ask me), highlighting weaknesses in mainly itemization and buffs which dis-sway other classes beside Assassin from grinding with them (mainly for xp but items as well!).


@ChronicleGM btw I am Libero ingame and I don't know if you've noticed this fairly high lvl Assassin that i've grouped with quite regularly called 'KingTony' but he has no issues with Sin, has been cursed with not being able to get over Luck+1 on his weapon and has killed probably every high lvl player not in THC on this server and has been a massive help to me in a duo grind setup.
You mentioned that a Warrior needs all this different kit (Warrior's need an Accuracy kit too which you failed to mention!) but you've ignored Tao's need separate kit too for pvp (HP+ MR/AC+Agility companion, MR kit and if rich enough an AC+MR+agi kit to also counter very well kitted warrior's).
It goes without saying Sins/Wizards need a few variations too from either companion or kit but I'm thinking you are talking mainly about the PvE side of life which Warr's only require MR and as much DC as they can fit with that.


This is what a higher pet does btw - Works great in Banya Temple, very nice! and outside of this it is nothing but a tool you throw out to stall/organise mobs for AoE cluster and with empowered healing can prove as a very decent defensive force in places like Goru/TT. The main issues for these pet's are as mentioned in BP/JT/DD which are very rewarding and Warrior/Wiz are able to take advantage of these players with ease solo. In Comparison Tao's are able to solo FD/NR/Goru etc but at a very slow rate, the drop potential is much higher but the amount of drop rate in other areas enables them to sell those normal items/adds and easily purchase anything Tao's/Sins grind hard for!

Get a rare weapon drop or anything rare in Banya Temple "worthless" get a rare weapon drop in Black Palace "WORTH!", this is not an even playing field!

I won't go on, I've obviously gone and explored and experienced more right now.
 
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GeeDee

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Just wait for the 50 pet and 52 explode skill.

Observe Art3mis and then tell me tao's need love.

That pet is insane, and rightly so.
 

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Just wait for the 50 pet and 52 explode skill.

Observe Art3mis and then tell me tao's need love.

That pet is insane, and rightly so.

Not sure if serious, trollin' or retarded , did you even take your time to read the thread?
 

WelshSteel

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Just wait for the 50 pet and 52 explode skill.

Observe Art3mis and then tell me tao's need love.

That pet is insane, and rightly so.

I did pull up the perfect picture comment but it got deleted so here's my reply : read the thread, absorb it and then comment as I asked for a serious discussion not a full assed opinion.

Furthermore if 'Taorrists' are balanced around explosions this is going to a brain dead class the exact opposite of what this class needs to be.

edit - I just watched Art3mis for 5 minutes in snow, completely disgusted and based off this ofc you would keep tao's buffs and items down, completely fuking brain dead...
Luxury skills like these should be aiding with clearing high drop areas like banya temple/despair valley/BP/JT etc not solo'ing 45+ areas like a god, there is just no need for team mates unless you are grouping up for one of your AI abominations. I can agree with it's 2018 and we can do better than a full support Tao class we can make the game more fun for supports than that but this takes the piss jamie.
 
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Audrey
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They are very strong in PvP
They only need 1 setup until 45/46 which is Holy (other classes dont)
Pets are quite tanky (obviously not in higher level caves)
Buffs are fine

Pets are tanky? Have you been in Despair Valley or what's it called? ( Bug cave to make it more easier ) Mobs there are lvl 30 right ... at lvl 43 as a tao my pets die there in 3-4 seconds... So where is the tankyness of the pet's you're talking about? and there are many more lower lvl caves like that one where pet's just die to fast.
 

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Pets are tanky? Have you been in Despair Valley or what's it called? ( Bug cave to make it more easier ) Mobs there are lvl 30 right ... at lvl 43 as a tao my pets die there in 3-4 seconds... So where is the tankyness of the pet's you're talking about? and there are many more lower lvl caves like that one where pet's just die to fast.

Yeah i didn't mean they can tank a whole group of mobs and not die, I meant they are able to tank small groups. Also 2 pets v 1 or 2 Numa's is possible so you can let off burst damage quite easily.
 

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i got 10% crit rate on pet after i just wasted the rest of my gamegold, which wasn't a lot thank god i spent *** all on this!

Everything that makes a Taoist has been nerfed or limited, end game tao all it does is summon, puri, rez, explode, odd heal, you don't need to buff, trans is a joke and all that talisman shooting does is slow people down in pvp when they are trying to get out of dodge. Where is curse? few more interesting skills/ideas that can be added and I've got great suggestions for tao's current abilities or you can just keep 70 odd % of tao's abilities obsolete! Mir 2 Tao is far more interesting and versatile than this!

Tao balanced around pet explode is a joke, the radius is a joke and the amount of damage is a joke, what's not going to be a joke is the amount of bs jamie is gonna put you guys through in the upcoming months, a rollercoaster of updates and after a while it will make you sick + no brakes and no crash barrier.

Thank you for one whole month of it jamie but I'm jumping off now.
 
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Shane/Banshee

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i got 10% crit rate on pet after i just wasted the rest of my gamegold, which wasn't a lot thank god i spent *** all on this!

Everything that makes a Taoist has been nerfed or limited, end game tao all it does is summon, puri, rez, explode, odd heal, you don't need to buff, trans is a joke and all that talisman shooting does is slow people down in pvp when they are trying to get out of dodge. Where is curse? few more interesting skills/ideas that can be added and I've got great suggestions for tao's current abilities or you can just keep 70 odd % of tao's abilities obsolete! Mir 2 Tao is far more interesting and versatile than this!

Tao balanced around pet explode is a joke, the radius is a joke and the amount of damage is a joke, what's not going to be a joke is the amount of bs jamie is gonna put you guys through in the upcoming months, a rollercoaster of updates and after a while it will make you sick + no brakes and no crash barrier.

Thank you for one whole month of it jamie but I'm jumping off now.

interesting, have you played mir 3 Before? As a tao?

pets is as per gsp/korean. Apart from less gameshop to make it work level 7 scroll.

taos get infection which a nasty looking spell that jumps from mob to mob. They also get a bind, that slows targets and makes them almost stationary. As a support they get a massive spell which heals the party, a ground aurora.

mir 3 taos are not support and support only. They have many play styles just you wont get to see them after 1month, but appreciate that it’s not for you.


can I ask what you were expecting from a mir 3 tao?

way I see it
solo possibilities check very good.
group play check. Res poison buffs
mass Damage check
able to pvp and win, check
able to solo bosses, check
 
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I noticed poison does not kill mobs it brings them down to 1 health and it stops,

would be nice if it killed the mobs

also i noticed when i poison a lure and lets say 5 mobs get poison when i cast it again it can hit the same mobs thats all ready has poison on them,
would be nice if it could be coded that if a mob is all ready poisoned in a lure and you cast it again it only hits mobs that has no poison on them.

the big thing i noticed at my level(low) is that poison does not kill mobs.
 

WelshSteel

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way I see it
solo possibilities check very good.
group play check. Res poison buffs
mass Damage check
able to pvp and win, check
able to solo bosses, check

solo is average much like sin, very good catergory is for wiz/warrior (unless you luck a pet explode, then the "off wizard emerges")
funny how you mentioned group play (btw you had to force a group play area, rest of caves worthless n1) and buffs, fuking hilarious especially from banshee, a warrior who has solo'd BP/JD for 99% of the game. Buffs are more or less icing and are never neccessary, don't pretend like they are worth (look at those op companions for buffs boys!...).
"mass damage check" like ok, super thrilled to not only play on my own but mass kill mobs even though people like myself prefer single very tough/good AI mobs, tbh it's extremely lazy of a developer to instead of adding depth to his caves/dungeons to just increase the spawns by x5 or whatever.
"Able to pvp and win" good ranged pet (the demon) is plenty good enough, no need to add a fuking nuke like explode...
"Able to solo bosses", exactly why you play an mmo....make "friends" and greed bosses, maybe this is an insight into Jamie/Banshee

Mir 3 was a sinking ship on release, why would you defend the game and it's skills? This was your chance to do a better job but oh well...
 

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solo is average much like sin, very good catergory is for wiz/warrior (unless you luck a pet explode, then the "off wizard emerges")
funny how you mentioned group play (btw you had to force a group play area, rest of caves worthless n1) and buffs, fuking hilarious especially from banshee, a warrior who has solo'd BP/JD for 99% of the game. Buffs are more or less icing and are never neccessary, don't pretend like they are worth (look at those op companions for buffs boys!...).
"mass damage check" like ok, super thrilled to not only play on my own but mass kill mobs even though people like myself prefer single very tough/good AI mobs, tbh it's extremely lazy of a developer to instead of adding depth to his caves/dungeons to just increase the spawns by x5 or whatever.
"Able to pvp and win" good ranged pet (the demon) is plenty good enough, no need to add a fuking nuke like explode...
"Able to solo bosses", exactly why you play an mmo....make "friends" and greed bosses, maybe this is an insight into Jamie/Banshee

Mir 3 was a sinking ship on release, why would you defend the game and it's skills? This was your chance to do a better job but oh well...


sorry the game is not for you.