Other The Death Of Mir2

[LOMValkyrie]

You tried using robot scripts to create respawns.

you lost him at robot

 

[Jev]

Honestly @Hab if you ****ed off for a year, worked on a server and ask for help or advice here and there during that time. Come back after the year showing off a server you'd have way more respect and i imagine a higher usercount too.

Instead you've refused to take critism or advice from people who have been on this forum longer than i've been able to walk and talk.

 

[Hab]

You tried using robot scripts to create respawns.

I decided to get technical yeah, manually running maps and entering hundreds of thousands of spawns that later needed to be manually removed.
It killed me writing them and burnt a hole in my heart having to delete them to use actual map spawns lol.
Was a good reminder of how the 1.4 days used to be though, back when items and monsters and spawns were all done via script.

Post automatically merged: Apr 13, 2026

Honestly @Hab if you ****ed off for a year, worked on a server and ask for help or advice here and there during that time. Come back after the year showing off a server you'd have way more respect and i imagine a higher usercount too.

Instead you've refused to take critism or advice from people who have been on this forum longer than i've been able to walk and talk.

I'm showing off Oblivion because you're all truly missing out on something amazing.

Yes, Tatsunuko failed.
Oblivion is out fuggin standing

 

[Jev]

I decided to get technical yeah, manually running maps and entering hundreds of thousands of spawns that later needed to be manually removed.
It killed me writing them and burnt a hole in my heart having to delete them to use actual map spawns lol.
Was a good reminder of how the 1.4 days used to be though, back when items and monsters and spawns were all done via script.

Don't get me wrong, you can use robot scripts for respawns etc but i'd use those in very specific use cases like needing them to shout or under stricter conditions which aren't supported by normal respawns but are from NPC scripts.

You should be using the main respawn tab for 98% of spawns.

 

[horizon02]

I decided to get technical yeah, manually running maps and entering hundreds of thousands of spawns that later needed to be manually removed.
It killed me writing them and burnt a hole in my heart having to delete them to use actual map spawns lol.
Was a good reminder of how the 1.4 days used to be though, back when items and monsters and spawns were all done via script.

Post automatically merged: Apr 13, 2026

I'm showing off Oblivion because you're all truly missing out on something amazing.

Yes, Tatsunuko failed.
Oblivion is out fuggin standing

Oblivion is not outstanding in the way you think it is, personally if i was labelled as the worlds number 1 poo eater, im not sure id be proud

 

[Hab]

Seriously stop lying, no one and i mean no one believes for 1 second you've had 150£, let alone 10x that . Like what has already been said , your server is quite literally the worst one to pop up in years (maybe even forever)

I have 4x big donators in-game, but that's confidential anyway. Happy Monday to you I guess then :S

 

[Jev]

I have 4x big donators in-game, but that's confidential anyway. Happy Monday to you I guess then :S

You wouldn't even have a "playable" server if it wasn't for

Me setting it all up for you because you can't follow very basic tutorials. (most i wrote myself)
@Valhalla & @daneo1989 for coding stuff in for you.

The best decision you could make is let your current server play out, then take it down. work on a server behind the scenes, learn how to do stuff for yourself and then release a decent server for users to play.

The first thing you need to do is pull your head out your own arse.

 

[unclepeas]

Sadly I can see in my future predictions that the Mir 2 community is going to come to a big stunt.
There's going to be 1-2 Mir2 Servers left in the next 1-2 years because of how we are being treated on these forums.

There are a multitude of reasons for the decline of Mir2 servers / players. If anything, cash-cow servers put-off a huge portion of the community - so you are in fact contributing to this 'big stunt' you are predicting by releasing such servers. It has nothing to do with how people interact with you.

The community can at times feel a little toxic - but for the most part, it is a collective of people who share a passion, and who are willing to work together to keep the game alive.

I've seen many people on this forum try to help you, and most of them give up once they see your arrogance, how you respond, and once they see what your motives are. That's when people resort to winding you up, and why you are only left receiving support from those you are paying.

I'm personally a paying Supporter, I've spent £4k investing in files and I'm being allowed to be spoken to and treat like a piece of scat.

Investing money into your own server doesn't automatically gain you respect or make you likeable. People speak to you the way they do because of the way you interact.

IMHO If you guys want to see more development towards The Legend Of Mir 2 then I suggest you clean up the amount of trolls is my personal advice.
These days, with the current server files that are available for Mir2, leaving you instantly 1 year deep in work and £1k+ deep in coding bills.
It leaves you no choice but to add in a GameShop, which was why this system was first introduced - understanding Mir is catching up... Hence Mir 1-5 these days.

You do have a choice. It was your choice to attempt to build servers, to ingore any feedback, to refute any advice, refuse to learn, to rely on others to implement new features, to add a gameshop, to set those prices. It was all, in fact, your choice.

The sad thing to see is people in the Mir2 community just refuse to change.

Take some time to self-reflect. All I see is you blaming everyone else. It's the communities fault for the server files, the feedback you receive, the way people treat you, the usercounts your server gets, and now it's the communities fault that you had to spend money and bring in a gameshop with abusurd prices to try and offset these costs.

You consistently point the finger at the community - the community you soley rely on for files, advice, services, usercount, donations .etc

Many tried to genuinely advise you that the usercount won't hit good numbers for a few reasons, and eventually they gave up trying to help you upon seeing your responses. They likely sat back back, thinking "let it unfold, and he'll realise" - but here you are, still blaming the community.

Whilst server files may not be perfect, you should be grateful any of this exists in the first place, and take some personal accountability for your servers lack of playerbase.

There is the quieter guys who sit in the background and read, and probably completely agree with the person being trolled which is 99% of LOMCN's spam posts.

I highly doubt there are many people agreeing with you / the way you act towards others.

I am one of these 'quieter guys' you mention. The reason I haven't responded before is because I've refrained from joining a 'mob mentality' and to ensure this isn't just a bullying bandwagon - but I've seen enough now to realise that you are making your own bed here, and you should therefore lie in it.

Saying "The problem isn't my server, it's the players and the community" - Is like me opening a restaurant and saying "the food and service is great, it's the customers fault my business is failing".

You need to stop looking outward, and start looking inward.

 

[Alecs]

 

[Hab]

You wouldn't even have a "playable" server if it wasn't for

Me setting it all up for you because you can't follow very basic tutorials. (most i wrote myself)
@Valhalla & @daneo1989 for coding stuff in for you.

The best decision you could make is let your current server play out, then take it down. work on a server behind the scenes, learn how to do stuff for yourself and then release a decent server for users to play.

The first thing you need to do is pull your head out your own arse.

You're banging on like im ungrateful and get things for free
I'm sick of biting my tongue around fuggin idiots... to just keep being provoked and attacked on a fuggin forum...

FYI the people coding for me have sweet NOTHING to do with you. Neither does the amount of money I pay these guys for their hard work.
Nosey prick.

 

[Jev]

You're banging on like im ungrateful and get things for free
I'm sick of biting my tongue around fuggin idiots... to just keep being provoked and attacked on a fuggin forum...

FYI the people coding for me have sweet NOTHING to do with you. Neither does the amount of money I pay these guys for their hard work.
Nosey prick.

I'm nosey because i have a decent relationship with both scott and luke, right that makes sense.

I never called you ungreatful at all, you've missed the entire point i was trying to make clearly.

You continue to live in your fantasy land.

 

[Hab]

There are a multitude of reasons for the decline of Mir2 servers / players. If anything, cash-cow servers put-off a huge portion of the community - so you are in fact contributing to this 'big stunt' you are predicting by releasing such servers. It has nothing to do with how people interact with you.

The community can at times feel a little toxic - but for the most part, it is a collective of people who share a passion, and who are willing to work together to keep the game alive.

I've seen many people on this forum try to help you, and most of them give up once they see your arrogance, how you respond, and once they see what your motives are. That's when people resort to winding you up, and why you are only left receiving support from those you are paying.




Investing money into your own server doesn't automatically gain you respect or make you likeable. People speak to you the way they do because of the way you interact.



You do have a choice. It was your choice to attempt to build servers, to ingore any feedback, to refute any advice, refuse to learn, to rely on others to implement new features, to add a gameshop, to set those prices. It was all, in fact, your choice.



Take some time to self-reflect. All I see is you blaming everyone else. It's the communities fault for the server files, the feedback you receive, the way people treat you, the usercounts your server gets, and now it's the communities fault you had to spend money and bring in a gameshop.

You consistently point the finger at the community - the community you soley rely on for files, advice, services, usercount, donations .etc

Many tried to genuinely advise you that the usercount won't hit good numbers for a few reasons, and eventually they gave up trying to help you upon seeing your responses. They likely sat back back, thinking "let it unfold, and he'll realise" - but here you are, still blaming the community.

Whilst server files may not be perfect, you should be grateful any of this exists in the first place, and take some personal accountability for your servers lack of playerbase.



I highly doubt there are many people agreeing with you / the way you act towards others.

I am one of these 'quieter guys' you mention. But the reason I haven't responded before is because I've refrained from joining a 'mob mentality' and to ensure this isn't just a bullying bandwagon. But I've seen enough now to realise that you are making your own bed here, and you should therefore lie in it.

Saying "The problem isn't my server, it's the players and the community" - Is like me opening a restaurant and saying "the food and service is great, it's the customers fault my business is failing".

You need to stop looking outward, and start looking inward.

I totally understand your point of view from every aspect there, very intelligent read. So thank you first and foremost lol.

See in regards of me being the way I am on here and my attitude, it's because of bare arrogance.
I put my first server up, expectedly you don't get many users as it's your first whilst they watch you build & design so that part is cool.
9-10 months later you've got a massive set of files, a huge database and not the best server and the stilts that it was built around.
So server attempt two, we've took nothing but shiz from day 1 of posting because of being compared to my last server.
Sadly it's always the same 5 trolls who are just idiots from other servers who comment on everything that I comment on.
So now, my natural reaction is just defence because idiots turn into bullies and that ruins server reputations.

Now in terms of money whilst on the subject, Mir2 has always had a free set of files up to Crystal.
You can add any mob, item, change colour, break things and still have a well balanced game totally free by reading 1 idiots guide.

Now it's like, download a set of bugged files, see what works, pay a coder to fix the 6 error codes before you log on and create you an exe.
(Years ago it was 1 exe per server)

Now it's just complete nonsense.

I agree I've done myself no favours with this post, but this is how I'm currently feeling as a server owner about this forum.
I'm sure other's won't feel comfortable either when they get their requirements sent via mail in the coming days.

So people call us cashcow. We have a GameGold NPC, and GameGold in the drops.
We have a VIP £5 weekly or £15 monthly service.
We have 3x exclusive packages which offer (in order) Rebirth 1, 2, and 3.
This profited us by £1,500 in comparison to i,e Marble who probably take £50k per year.
But apparently Oblivion's the cashcow and 3gena's Arcane or Hurricane's 2 page long GameShop isn't?

Absolutely mental... We are the only server fully complying with the rules but we've took slander and a hit on the UC because of this.

 

[Ohnozircon]

I have 4x big donators in-game, but that's confidential anyway. Happy Monday to you I guess then :S

No you dont. You are so 'fugging' deluded its actually worrying me . Are you sure your meds are actually working? Because from this side it looks like you need to go see your practicioner and get something different

 

[Slayer1985]

There are 2 servers coming not including sanj that look promising. This will be a rare occasion I lost in something u have typed .

 

[BleH]

My earnings are to no interest of any other person except myself lol

This is the reason your servers are failing, nothing to do with the community.

You're way to money orientated, concentrate more on the gameplay and fixing bugs befor even thinking about gameshop content.

 

[Hab]

The money makes absolutely no difference lol. I could re release and it would just be the exact same UC.

 

[LOMValkyrie]

first thing the guy added was rebirth packages and gameshop

 

[unclepeas]

I totally understand your point of view from every aspect there, very intelligent read. So thank you first and foremost lol.

See in regards of me being the way I am on here and my attitude, it's because of bare arrogance.
I put my first server up, expectedly you don't get many users as it's your first whilst they watch you build & design so that part is cool.
9-10 months later you've got a massive set of files, a huge database and not the best server and the stilts that it was built around.
So server attempt two, we've took nothing but shiz from day 1 of posting because of being compared to my last server.
Sadly it's always the same 5 trolls who are just idiots from other servers who comment on everything that I comment on.
So now, my natural reaction is just defence because idiots turn into bullies and that ruins server reputations.

Now in terms of money whilst on the subject, Mir2 has always had a free set of files up to Crystal.
You can add any mob, item, change colour, break things and still have a well balanced game totally free by reading 1 idiots guide.

Now it's like, download a set of bugged files, see what works, pay a coder to fix the 6 error codes before you log on and create you an exe.
(Years ago it was 1 exe per server)

Now it's just complete nonsense.

I agree I've done myself no favours with this post, but this is how I'm currently feeling as a server owner about this forum.
I'm sure other's won't feel comfortable either when they get their requirements sent via mail in the coming days.

So people call us cashcow. We have a GameGold NPC, and GameGold in the drops.
We have a VIP £5 weekly or £15 monthly service.
We have 3x exclusive packages which offer (in order) Rebirth 1, 2, and 3.
This profited us by £1,500 in comparison to i,e Marble who probably take £50k per year.
But apparently Oblivion's the cashcow and 3gena's Arcane or Hurricane's 2 page long GameShop isn't?

Absolutely mental... We are the only server fully complying with the rules but we've took slander and a hit on the UC because of this.

From what I could gather people were skeptical that much would have changed from the previous release as the time between releases was very short. Along with a few other things, like orignally advertising as a 'lowrate' server yet posting screenshots of items and such with med/high rate stats, for example. When this was brought your attention you refuted the feedback, and doubed down by implying everyone else is wrong about the collective meaning of 'rates', before eventually changing it.

Things like this give people the impression that its been rushed out, and that you believe you know better than everyone else.

I respect you admitting that you're aware you aren't doing yourself any favours and get defensive. But with this in mind, then you should also recognise that a lot of players have avoided your server because of the timeframe between releases, and because of the approach to others - and not because of a few comments.

The attitude is why the responses become less frequent (at least helpful ones) - and all that remains are those winding you up, or a very patient few who still try help you regardless of how disrespectful you seem to be towards them - like @Jev, for example.

As he and many have suggested before, it would have probably been a good idea to take some time to work behind closed doors on your project, and returned with a better attitude and approach to others.

Not all critism is slander. I understand you get frustrated. But providing you remain cooperative and respectful to those trying to genuinely help you - those who are just 'bullying' will stand out like a sore thumb, and end up making themselves look like a pr*ck.

 

[BleH]

The money makes absolutely no difference lol. I could re release and it would just be the exact same UC.

From the 2hours of time i spent giving your server a try, you posted over 10 game shop discounts and 0 bug fixes cmon man....

 

[Pusha]

Even though you've paid for peoples help here (no matter how much of it was tax payers money anyway) I still feel like it's a slap in the face for them after trying to help you.

You've ignored all advice, help and even minor criticism.

Like a few others have said, If you are really serious about having a decent server you have a lot of work to do, go away, do it properly and come back with something that isn't just a mess all lumped together.