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squall777

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I gave this server too many chances to become fun for me but thats impossible since the GM's are clueless. It's obvious they never played mir at a high lvl to understand what makes and what breaks a server.

Seriously this server had amazing potential with so many features but for some reason they decided not to put in ANY extra content compared to a 2.3 euro clone any1 can download from this forums. Infact no. That 2.3 euro clone would be better cause at least it wouldn't have balance issues.

Why couldn't you add a few caves till lvl40? Was it that hard for you to think that perhaps people after 12 years might be bored to geek bc/st/psc for weeks? Was it hard to understand that you needed to work more on drop files and new items than fancy new maps? Do you realise that once you get couple items like a lvl26 weap then you wont upgrade your items for a really good while because simply there are no items in the database? Why couldnt you add couple mid-lvl items that worthed hunting like an ac1-2 dc1-3 brace or something or would that be too OP for your taste? Even if you didnt make new places for lvls 0-40 was it hard to include some more/new subbosses to make lvling less frustrating?

About balance...
Seriously you have no idea on what you are doing and thats obvious on your replies. You have too melee classes. One of them 2hits the other and the other needs 10hits...HOW ON EARTH THIS MAKES SENSE!!! What advantage has a sin vs a war? Aspeed? That does nothing on pvp since no1 stands still to be hit 10times "fast". Do sins have a gap closer or somehow the element of surprise and i havent found it to justify that? Even the lvl25 quest ring has ac2 dc2-2 for sin and warrior 1 simply has 1 extra just to annoy ppl even more (ac3 dc1-3 i think).
I feel sorry about high lvl wizzies without shield. Not even sure what u did there but i wouldnt wanna be my m8 thats lvl39 without shield.
So let me show you YOUR BALANCE:
lvl1-20 Sin/war 10dmg Wiz 15-20dmg Archer 50 dmg(lol)
lvl20-30 Sin 50dmg war 10dmg (lol) wiz 30-50dmg Archer 60dmg
lvl32+ Sin 70dmg(?) war 100+ dmg(and 500hp) wiz 60dmg Archer 70dmg

These of course are random numbers which are just close to real ones to show you how stupid everything is. As you can see sins seem balanced on their advantage tho they get a huge peek at arround lvl22, warriors are worse tha tao skele till lvl32 and unable to play on their own, wizzies seem ok since they get many spells later on and archers pretty much get their end game dmg at like lvl15.

Neway. Congrats on making your server "hard" and not "handing everything on a plate" with changes like no mmaps no rev on bosses and no rt's. In the process of making it hard tho u made it anti-fun as well. No matter what i say you wont understand the frustration of logging in and having no place you wanna hunt in since you seem like coders and not like mir players.

Gl with ur "hard" 16bit server.

/Mitsos
 

Tist

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Join a guild and guild hunt. C ya.
 

joking

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who are these warriors hitting for 100+?... most of us have f ucking power axes still .... I struggle to hit with tdb for 100 in total nvm per hit.... so let me take a wild guess here at why your crying....

You have been getting your arse handed to you on a daily basis... struggling to find good items... struggling to kill minor sub bosses.... Struggling to pull everyones virtual **** out of your petite little mouth, constantly being raped by those who put in more effort against all this struggle... and now you want nothing more than to put down a server and the individuals that put so much effort into making this what it is.... yes its hard... but your not the only one who struggles now and again...

Get a grip

Go level/hunt

Get a guild

Stop moaning.. its been what... 2-3 weeks? YOU and aaaall the other moaners need to shut up... and get on with it...
 

squall777

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I am in a guild, i am constantly red from pking ppl and also where did you see me moaning about a class? I mentioned many things and 1 of them is balance.
 

Nec.

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Shame you don't have fun on this server like others. But yeh..can't please everyone.

Bye then
 

Skyline

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Why couldn't you add a few caves till lvl40? Was it that hard for you to think that perhaps people after 12 years might be bored to geek bc/st/psc for weeks? Was it hard to understand that you needed to work more on drop files and new items than fancy new maps? Do you realise that once you get couple items like a lvl26 weap then you wont upgrade your items for a really good while because simply there are no items in the database? Why couldnt you add couple mid-lvl items that worthed hunting like an ac1-2 dc1-3 brace or something or would that be too OP for your taste? Even if you didnt make new places for lvls 0-40 was it hard to include some more/new subbosses to make lvling less frustrating?
I stoppred reading here >_<

8TrigramWheel is AC0-2 DC1-3
 

Samuel

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I gave this server too many chances to become fun for me but thats impossible since the GM's are clueless. It's obvious they never played mir at a high lvl to understand what makes and what breaks a server.

I invite you to pick up a source code which had nothing but 1.4 items/monsters/skills/maps and add them all to the same standard as we have and in doing so prove how clueless we are.

Seriously this server had amazing potential with so many features but for some reason they decided not to put in ANY extra content compared to a 2.3 euro clone any1 can download from this forums. Infact no. That 2.3 euro clone would be better cause at least it wouldn't have balance issues.

I guess the concept of updates/releases to keep a server interesting is lost to some people.

Why couldn't you add a few caves till lvl40? Was it that hard for you to think that perhaps people after 12 years might be bored to geek bc/st/psc for weeks? Was it hard to understand that you needed to work more on drop files and new items than fancy new maps? Do you realise that once you get couple items like a lvl26 weap then you wont upgrade your items for a really good while because simply there are no items in the database? Why couldnt you add couple mid-lvl items that worthed hunting like an ac1-2 dc1-3 brace or something or would that be too OP for your taste? Even if you didnt make new places for lvls 0-40 was it hard to include some more/new subbosses to make lvling less frustrating?

See comment above...

About balance...
Seriously you have no idea on what you are doing and thats obvious on your replies. You have too melee classes. One of them 2hits the other and the other needs 10hits...HOW ON EARTH THIS MAKES SENSE!!! What advantage has a sin vs a war? Aspeed? That does nothing on pvp since no1 stands still to be hit 10times "fast". Do sins have a gap closer or somehow the element of surprise and i havent found it to justify that? Even the lvl25 quest ring has ac2 dc2-2 for sin and warrior 1 simply has 1 extra just to annoy ppl even more (ac3 dc1-3 i think).
I feel sorry about high lvl wizzies without shield. Not even sure what u did there but i wouldnt wanna be my m8 thats lvl39 without shield.
So let me show you YOUR BALANCE:
lvl1-20 Sin/war 10dmg Wiz 15-20dmg Archer 50 dmg(lol)
lvl20-30 Sin 50dmg war 10dmg (lol) wiz 30-50dmg Archer 60dmg
lvl32+ Sin 70dmg(?) war 100+ dmg(and 500hp) wiz 60dmg Archer 70dmg

These of course are random numbers which are just close to real ones to show you how stupid everything is. As you can see sins seem balanced on their advantage tho they get a huge peek at arround lvl22, warriors are worse tha tao skele till lvl32 and unable to play on their own, wizzies seem ok since they get many spells later on and archers pretty much get their end game dmg at like lvl15.

Your calculations are completely made up, if you had actually put some work in to gather the correct information (well you probably wouldn't of added this part if you had), then your moan/complaint would of had more worth, however, as you didn't and you have instead decided to completely make up some random figures, this entire post now has no weight and is pointless.

Neway. Congrats on making your server "hard" and not "handing everything on a plate" with changes like no mmaps no rev on bosses and no rt's. In the process of making it hard tho u made it anti-fun as well. No matter what i say you wont understand the frustration of logging in and having no place you wanna hunt in since you seem like coders and not like mir players.

This is a low rate, I am unsure what your expectation is.

Gl with ur "hard" 16bit server.

Thank you.

/Mitsos

See my comments in green.

Sam
 
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squall777

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Originally Posted by squall777

I gave this server too many chances to become fun for me but thats impossible since the GM's areclueless. It's obvious they never played mir at a high lvl to understand what makes and what breaks a server.

I invite you to pick up a source code which had nothing but 1.4 items/monsters/skills/maps and add them all to the same standard as we have and in doing so prove how clueless we are.

Like i said you are a great coder and great in advertising but really bad in mir. Mir isnt about "tiles".

Seriously this server had amazing potential with so many features but for some reason they decided not to put in ANY extra content compared to a 2.3 euro clone any1 can download from this forums. Infact no. That 2.3 euro clone would be better cause at least it wouldn't have balance issues.

I guess the concept of updates/releases to keep a server interesting is lost to some people.

What about the concept of actual content on release? I mentioned about things for 0-40 not for "updates" 45+. This would give people more things to do/hunt. Your reply here is irrelevant to what i said.

Why couldn't you add a few caves till lvl40? Was it that hard for you to think that perhaps people after 12 years might be bored to geek bc/st/psc for weeks? Was it hard to understand that you needed to work more on drop files and new items than fancy new maps? Do you realise that once you get couple items like a lvl26 weap then you wont upgrade your items for a really good while because simply there are no items in the database? Why couldnt you add couple mid-lvl items that worthed hunting like an ac1-2 dc1-3 brace or something or would that be too OP for your taste? Even if you didnt make new places for lvls 0-40 was it hard to include some more/new subbosses to make lvling less frustrating?

See comment above...

See comment above
About balance...
Seriously you have no idea on what you are doing and thats obvious on your replies. You have too melee classes. One of them 2hits the other and the other needs 10hits...HOW ON EARTH THIS MAKES SENSE!!! What advantage has a sin vs a war? Aspeed? That does nothing on pvp since no1 stands still to be hit 10times "fast". Do sins have a gap closer or somehow the element of surprise and i havent found it to justify that? Even the lvl25 quest ring has ac2 dc2-2 for sin and warrior 1 simply has 1 extra just to annoy ppl even more (ac3 dc1-3 i think).
I feel sorry about high lvl wizzies without shield. Not even sure what u did there but i wouldnt wanna be my m8 thats lvl39 without shield.
So let me show you YOUR BALANCE:
lvl1-20 Sin/war 10dmg Wiz 15-20dmg Archer 50 dmg(lol)
lvl20-30 Sin 50dmg war 10dmg (lol) wiz 30-50dmg Archer 60dmg
lvl32+ Sin 70dmg(?) war 100+ dmg(and 500hp) wiz 60dmg Archer 70dmg

These of course are random numbers which are just close to real ones to show you how stupid everything is. As you can see sins seem balanced on their advantage tho they get a huge peek at arround lvl22, warriors are worse tha tao skele till lvl32 and unable to play on their own, wizzies seem ok since they get many spells later on and archers pretty much get their end game dmg at like lvl15.

Your calculations are completely made up, if you had actually put some work in to gather the correct information (well you probably wouldn't of added this part if you had), then your moan/complaint would of had more worth, however, as you didn't and you have instead decided to completely make up some random figures, this entire post now has no weight and is pointless.

Ok my calculations are wrong. What about yours? Give us yours then. Go ingame and try those things i mentioned. For example try a pvp between the 2melee classes lvl35+ on same items. Lets see if my moan has ne worth. Try leveling a warrior before lvl32. Try playing a wiz on pvp/pve without shield. Try an archer lvl35+

Neway. Congrats on making your server "hard" and not "handing everything on a plate" with changes like no mmaps no rev on bosses and no rt's. In the process of making it hard tho u made it anti-fun as well. No matter what i say you wont understand the frustration of logging in and having no place you wanna hunt in since you seem like coders and not like mir players.

This is a low rate, I am unsure what your expectation is.

My expectation is no matter the rate mid/high/low to have the will to hunt when i log in. To have something to look forward. The leveling rate is fine. The hunting on this server is not since there are no items added. The fun in mir when hunting is not getting 2lvls per hunt. Its not gainning 20stats per hunt nor 5 items. But the CHANCE to find something worth hunting. For example right now on your server the best you can get from a psc hunt is couple rare books. What if you dont need the books? What about in couple weeks when those books become common? Not even sure if you get what im saying. There are no items.

Gl with ur "hard" 16bit server.

Thank you.

/Mitsos
 

mStation

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i really don't know.. i connected like 6 times now.. played upto level 21 with wiz and most of the time just by myself.

i am totally fine with what the gameplay experience has been for me now. i am in a light armour(f) with ebony bracelets and serpent rings with a hooked spear.. looks like my kit is at is best for the level i am. i have 100k gold in the bag and i hardly pick up everything i see because bag weight is not enough for me.

for me, it looks like great fun for the moment.

i started playing without expecting to:
- level to 40 with 6hours gameplay
- kill bosses on solo
- pvp all the classes ingame and always win

looks like and feels like old style mir when the above things couldn't be done anyways.

IF and say IF i can blame there is a problem somewhere is with shops / junkman not saving items. OR having trustmerchant soo expensive at this point of the game

---------- Post Merged at 10:24 AM ---------- Previous Post was at 10:10 AM ----------

as about content.. i think most people have rushed them a bit..

as a matter of fact we don't even know yet what mobs drop what.. i have heard that some items drop very rarely also from normal mobs so rushing the content to reaching the bosses might non be the best solution always..

also, another point of view for a long lasting server, is avoiding errors and flooding the game with items is one big error to avoid.. best is keeping them slow at start and power them while it is live, small power ups each time till you get a good balance point.

and btw i am sure not everyone has already ended the content of the game.. i might be the wrong person to talk about this but i didn't even yet try redmoonvalley, stonetemple, bugcave and zumatemple.. not even entered yet prajna island nor past bichon.. so i feel i have a lot still to discover
 

JC/Raiden

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Seeing threads like these are becoming seriously frustrating for two reasons. Firstly threads like these give the wrong impression to new comers thinking of starting, ESPECIALLY if the thread in question (like this one) is completely full of bollocks. And lastly the same thing needs to be said over...& over....& over again, that being WERE ONLY A FEW WEEKS IN!

It's absolutely mind boggling what some of you people expect! Clearly a decade of custom cheap cash in High Rate servers have dissolved most of your brain cells. Everything that's happened on this server so far is purely by design, all for the purpose of making sure this place is still here several years from now.

If any of you played Euro Mir I dunno how some of you made it through the game on a daily basis, especially as far as support is concerned. WeMade were ****ing poor for Customer Service, AND YOU HAD TO PAY!

Purely as far as this server is concerned with respect to balance, are things perfect? No probably not. But with the server being so young its bound to have teething problems, but once the face starts to mature the balance will be better brought in line.

Sam & the rest of the team, please don't cave in & lose sight of what you want for the server due to these threads. Stick with whatever you see is best for the future.
 

squall777

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Seeing threads like these are becoming seriously frustrating for two reasons. Firstly threads like these give the wrong impression to new comers thinking of starting, ESPECIALLY if the thread in question (like this one) is completely full of bollocks. And lastly the same thing needs to be said over...& over....& over again, that being WERE ONLY A FEW WEEKS IN!

It's absolutely mind boggling what some of you people expect! Clearly a decade of custom cheap cash in High Rate servers have dissolved most of your brain cells. Everything that's happened on this server so far is purely by design, all for the purpose of making sure this place is still here several years from now.

If any of you played Euro Mir I dunno how some of you made it through the game on a daily basis, especially as far as support is concerned. WeMade were ****ing poor for Customer Service, AND YOU HAD TO PAY!

Purely as far as this server is concerned with respect to balance, are things perfect? No probably not. But with the server being so young its bound to have teething problems, but once the face starts to mature the balance will be better brought in line.

Sam & the rest of the team, please don't cave in & lose sight of what you want for the server due to these threads. Stick with whatever you see is best for the future.

You wrote a whole essay to say you disagree without saying anything? After all this is my feedback and imo the truth. Didnt know this forum was only meant for ppl to say "u want everything on a plate" and "amazing server/gm's" so im sorry
 

mStation

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It's absolutely mind boggling what some of you people expect! Clearly a decade of custom cheap cash in High Rate servers have dissolved most of your brain cells.
If any of you played Euro Mir I dunno how some of you made it through the game on a daily basis, especially as far as support is concerned. WeMade were ****ing poor for Customer Service, AND YOU HAD TO PAY!
Purely as far as this server is concerned with respect to balance, are things perfect? No probably not. But with the server being so young its bound to have teething problems, but once the face starts to mature the balance will be better brought in line.
Sam & the rest of the team, please don't cave in & lose sight of what you want for the server due to these threads. Stick with whatever you see is best for the future.

sometimes a +1 is not enough
 

daneo1989

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My honest opinion is...

server is great reminds me of Euro the biggest issue is lack of higher level items I know the server is 2-3weeks old but with everyone running around with a PurifierSword till Level35 then doing the FateQuest is the only way to move on to your next weapon as GreatAxes are still reaching the 1.5-2m range

maybe adding level1-35 weapons to the crafter would give people more reason to collect materials. I'm not saying hand everything on a plate but it's more of a incentive of solo hunting as a lot of the places are mainly GRP places

If you do decide to add these maybe lower the stats a little to keep Dropped weapons more worth while then a crafted weapon for example
 

JC/Raiden

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You wrote a whole essay to say you disagree without saying anything? After all this is my feedback and imo the truth. Didnt know this forum was only meant for ppl to say "u want everything on a plate" and "amazing server/gm's" so im sorry

Without saying anything? I said what I felt hasn't been said already on this thread, otherwise what would the point be in posting at all? There's nothing wrong with giving your honest thoughts & opinions, but if you decide to take things to a public stage like on a forum for all to read then controversial posts like yours are going to receive some heat.

You don't seem happy with the feedback your thread has gotten you, & you also seem to think people only agree with the server team. I'm sorry did you only expect people to rally behind you instead of supporting the vision for the server? Too bad.

I don't know anything about you as a person & I don't know what time you put in to this game. But is it safe to assume that maybe you've overdone it...just a little bit & maybe you don't have enough real priorities in life to keep you busy & fill the void? If that's not the case then I apologies, but I can't imagine why you'd say half the things you have said if my assumption isn't accurate it. Especially as far as lack of content is concerned when the server has only been open for 3 weeks....

Regardless, I don't suppose you've taken a step back & thought maybe you've "given both barrels of your fury" WAY to early have you? Probably not, but thought I'd ask anyway.
 

Zed

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Stop being a baby,
Its a low rate server, at least this server, when you get a rare, it feels like a rare, rather than every person running round with the same gear, if you aren't getting drops, farm gold and buy the items, everyone has a price, and NO it's not hard to farm gold, you will just be doing it wrong,
but if you are leaving, can I have your stuff?

Thanks! :)
 

daneo1989

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I don't know anything about you as a person & I don't know what time you put in to this game. But is it safe to assume that maybe you've overdone it...just a little bit & maybe you don't have enough real priorities in life to keep you busy & fill the void? .

This made me chuckle maybe 70% are the above comment
 

Skyline

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Spoke to a few people in game, a lot of them had never heard of LOMCN, never played a private server. They had only ever played Euro and USA.

You know what their opinion is? They love the server. A good Euro feel is what they say. If I was Sam and co, I'd be happy to listen to them rather than the people on here who are used to high rates.
I'd spend hours on Euro killing IWT.IZT/KH/DD, FB, ZT aswell as countless hunts to the bosses in BG only to get literally nothing drop - Not even a JMace.

Some people are too used to playing a server where you kill a boss and it drops 2/3 decent items.
A server where you play for a few days and you're a nice high level, with high DC and can easily solo bosses. I'll be honest and admit I'm the same. i hate leveling, i hate group hunting (I don't have the patience for it) and I hate not been able to run to WT and easily solo it. But I'm really enjoying this server and long may it continue.
 

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I gave this server too many chances to become fun for me but thats impossible since the GM's are clueless. It's obvious they never played mir at a high lvl to understand what makes and what breaks a server.

Seriously this server had amazing potential with so many features but for some reason they decided not to put in ANY extra content compared to a 2.3 euro clone any1 can download from this forums. Infact no. That 2.3 euro clone would be better cause at least it wouldn't have balance issues.

Why couldn't you add a few caves till lvl40? Was it that hard for you to think that perhaps people after 12 years might be bored to geek bc/st/psc for weeks? Was it hard to understand that you needed to work more on drop files and new items than fancy new maps? Do you realise that once you get couple items like a lvl26 weap then you wont upgrade your items for a really good while because simply there are no items in the database? Why couldnt you add couple mid-lvl items that worthed hunting like an ac1-2 dc1-3 brace or something or would that be too OP for your taste? Even if you didnt make new places for lvls 0-40 was it hard to include some more/new subbosses to make lvling less frustrating?

About balance...
Seriously you have no idea on what you are doing and thats obvious on your replies. You have too melee classes. One of them 2hits the other and the other needs 10hits...HOW ON EARTH THIS MAKES SENSE!!! What advantage has a sin vs a war? Aspeed? That does nothing on pvp since no1 stands still to be hit 10times "fast". Do sins have a gap closer or somehow the element of surprise and i havent found it to justify that? Even the lvl25 quest ring has ac2 dc2-2 for sin and warrior 1 simply has 1 extra just to annoy ppl even more (ac3 dc1-3 i think).
I feel sorry about high lvl wizzies without shield. Not even sure what u did there but i wouldnt wanna be my m8 thats lvl39 without shield.
So let me show you YOUR BALANCE:
lvl1-20 Sin/war 10dmg Wiz 15-20dmg Archer 50 dmg(lol)
lvl20-30 Sin 50dmg war 10dmg (lol) wiz 30-50dmg Archer 60dmg
lvl32+ Sin 70dmg(?) war 100+ dmg(and 500hp) wiz 60dmg Archer 70dmg

These of course are random numbers which are just close to real ones to show you how stupid everything is. As you can see sins seem balanced on their advantage tho they get a huge peek at arround lvl22, warriors are worse tha tao skele till lvl32 and unable to play on their own, wizzies seem ok since they get many spells later on and archers pretty much get their end game dmg at like lvl15.

Neway. Congrats on making your server "hard" and not "handing everything on a plate" with changes like no mmaps no rev on bosses and no rt's. In the process of making it hard tho u made it anti-fun as well. No matter what i say you wont understand the frustration of logging in and having no place you wanna hunt in since you seem like coders and not like mir players.

Gl with ur "hard" 16bit server.

/Mitsos

cool story bro
now gtfo
no1 cares