Update Discussion Thread.

[Koriban]

thats what im wondering. i mean, say if it takes 30 seconds to solo a mob in yims as a tao, green would have stopped 7.5% max health as regen. with mobs having 0 regen will doubling the damage of green compensate for this "loss"?

Technically you've lost nothing. The mob is still dying at the same speed, just now everyone else doesn't have to deal with regen either. They've increased, you've stayed as you are. (In fact you've gained DPS if he's doubling greens effectiveness) In short: Everyone kills mobs quicker.

No trolling here

 

[Pur3dirt]

Technically you've lost nothing. The mob is still dying at the same speed, just now everyone else doesn't have to deal with regen either. They've increased, you've stayed as you are. (In fact you've gained DPS if he's doubling greens effectiveness) In short: Everyone kills mobs quicker.

agree, but is increasing green by a flat arbitrary amount enough to keep tao dmg in line with other classes, or should i say, in line compared to what the dmg spread is currently at.

obviously its not game breaking and im not "OMG TAO NURF GG"..ing everywhere, just highlighting that it is a small buff to other classes over a tao.

 

[Jamie]

agree, but is increasing green by a flat arbitrary amount enough to keep tao dmg in line with other classes, or should i say, in line compared to what the dmg spread is currently at.

obviously its not game breaking and im not "OMG TAO NURF GG"..ing everywhere, just highlighting that it is a small buff to other classes over a tao.

The way I see it, You are a taoist, in grp you all get equal experience, (you buff everyone etc).

When you are Solo, with pets, you will probably outshine all but an assassin. (New area because hit exp, and Pets contribute)

 

[Piff1]

No bait from me I was genuinely disappointed by Jamies reaction to me spotting an exploitable mechanic that he coded intentional that he had not foreseen. To then lie through his teeth even though he left the evidence with a strike-through that he had not anticipated nor understood the severity of the potential exploit. Once his mind had caught up with mine, (I understand the delay) he states the fix with no thanks. it's just rude, to someone trying... actually no, someone who DID help you fix something you built broken is discourteous.I'm sorry that I hurt his ego. I'm not sorry for helping him fix a severe issue before it could be exploited even though I got no Thanks. No trolling here, just the hero of the day being treated like crap by a dev who makes mistakes.

Does it even matter if Jamie did make a mistake? He has an offline server which trusted friends / himself go on and balance before ANY big update, which would of got spotted within minutes. Even so i very much doubt Jamie did make that mistake, All you know is what he type's on forums, he has a lot of infromation to put out on here every update, it's close to 100% he's going to miss something once in awhile. Why are you such a salty guy anyway lol? You don't even play

 

[1westy1]

This experience by hit thing, is it done by amount of damage you do on a hit? For example, if a mob has 1000 health, do you get 1xp for each point of damage?

If not, then it will kinda screw over Warriors who will be better off leveling where Slashing Burst can be effective. If yes, then awesome.

 

[Razarus]

Does it even matter if Jamie did make a mistake? He has an offline server which trusted friends / himself go on and balance before ANY big update, which would of got spotted within minutes. Even so i very much doubt Jamie did make that mistake, All you know is what he type's on forums, he has a lot of infromation to put out on here every update, it's close to 100% he's going to miss something once in awhile. Why are you such a salty guy anyway lol? You don't even play

It does not matter at all, everyone makes mistakes.
The issue is that instead of thanking me for bringing this exploit to light he pretended to already be across it even though he left evidence that shows he was not aware of it.

All i wanted was a thanks, instead i get some backhanded insult because he is not man enough to admit he missed something.

Rather pathetic that people are backing him up when he has lied for no reason other than to protect his inflated ego.

 

[Reverance]

You are assuming he is lying...

 

[1westy1]

Please stop feeding the trolls. He's doing it for attention and you're giving him it.

 

[Razarus]

You are assuming he is lying...

No assumption, did you not read his first response?
It doesn't go from a response completely oblivious to the potential gains from the exploit to a 'simple' fix.

No assumption needed,
No problem -> **** i need a fix = was not aware -> he has something here

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Please stop feeding the trolls. He's doing it for attention and you're giving him it.

i just saved the server you play a MASSIVE exp exploit and you arent even going to thank me? Damn westy! Were you going to use the exploit in 3 years when your mind figured it out? Sorry about that.

 

[Pur3dirt]

No assumption, did you not read his first response?
It doesn't go from a response completely oblivious to the potential gains from the exploit to a 'simple' fix.

hardly an exploit, in what world would somebody stand there, hitting the same mob for hours, wasting dura, pots and cash for just exp? no gold gained as the mob wouldnt die, no pots dropping, no items, trash or otherwise.

your "exploit" you so proudly found all by yourself would be nothing more than the most stupid way to gain exp ever imagined.

you want a thank you?

thank you for pointing out the obvious

happy?

 

[Jamie]

Monsters

• Pets will have Life Per Second of 1, 2, 3 or 4 (Depending on EShock / Summon level.
• Pets will have Out of Combat Regeneration equal to 10% of their Life per second

As above since Regen was removed.

 

[Razarus]

hardly an exploit, in what world would somebody stand there, hitting the same mob for hours, wasting dura, pots and cash for just exp? no gold gained as the mob wouldnt die, no pots dropping, no items, trash or otherwise.

your "exploit" you so proudly found all by yourself would be nothing more than the most stupid way to gain exp ever imagined.

you want a thank you?

thank you for pointing out the obvious

happy?

Haha, that was Jamies first reaction too.
Let me know when the full potential dawns upon you.

Here's a little hint. Multiple.
Go on, you can figure it out.

 

[Haunter87]

I love how every thread starts off constructive, then turns to an argument or some **** arse debate.

 

[DarkSacred]

hardly an exploit, in what world would somebody stand there,

People are already exploiting on Marble anyway - brown frogs, macro RT's at a set interval, go to a cave with lots of spawns and let them do the work. Pets never untame so can abuse it

 

[KingCobra92]

game is rapidly becoming boring , really hope your new cave is something brand new and fun , ghost bdd is terrible , the most used map in the life of Mir and you wasted that mechanic on it .

Active usercount is dropping daily , you don't seem to have anywhere near as much passion as you did at the start , before you listened and replied to every idea thrown at you , responded to criticism and listened to what we had to think , now ideas posted in the ideas get ignored regularly , you cherry pick who you feel like responding to , you're never ingame , seems like you have lost interest , which I hope you haven't as the server was so ****ing goood

no reason to level past 48 for most , let alone 50 , the game is becoming saturated with PB items which is good , however I saw 6 dragonslayers drop today , in about 5 hours , this is ridiculous lol . 2 level 40 weapons dropped from 1 average boss , I don't know if this is all part of your plan , and I'm not salty about missing drops as I'm happy with my kit , but it seems the game has come to a point where it's just dead.

Ghost BDD didn't fix the problem , it was interesting for all of a day. The only reason people hunt there is to get fragments , what a waste of a brand new cave lol ,

you may think I'm moaning and talking **** which is fine. But I'm not the only one that feels like you've become bored of the server and just not bothered lol,

 

[xXxX]

Cobra I can agree with the no reason to level especially for warriors (nothing new after 44 spellwise) , and agreed with ghost bdd etc, you are better off farming old bosses than clearing there currently ( 2 dark armours this week both from normal kh and izt).Similar to the actual yimoogi boss, so far it has not really produced alot yet compared to subs and shitty bosses. I mean Ghost DD for example since being release has only global shouted once and that was a dragonstaff lol,Ghost IZt has produced nothing period.

 

[Lionsm!ght]

One thing regarding dance of swallows change.

This is a good change, but can this be changed so only a successful teleport will cancel the recall? Reason being, a sin will now be able to dance away and cast TT, even if this fails they have now successfully escaped a fight, where as any other class would have to suffer the consequences of a failed TT.

 

[Adv]

No fix to DoS return spot being camped?

Or sins having a choice to recall or not?

Disappointed to see that this was the changes you had planned and nothing to improve the spell.


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[phoenixdancer]

One thing regarding dance of swallows change.

This is a good change, but can this be changed so only a successful teleport will cancel the recall? Reason being, a sin will now be able to dance away and cast TT, even if this fails they have now successfully escaped a fight, where as any other class would have to suffer the consequences of a failed TT.

+1 Here.

Imo it just seems sins have now been given an epic escape route from fights... Teleport can fail where DoS doesnt. So either way they have a fool proof way to get out and quick.

Which sucks.

 

[JustAUser]

The gm is already aware and knows about the bug as his test buddies spotted it on the private server
/razarus
Kek