Urgent - before you do the reboot
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Just one question, and its a honest question
If there where no archers would it not just be super easy for a wizard to level by TUing Ghouls?
HP for BDD is being adjusted anyway so wizards should be able to to use TS also while in there
The way I see it if there where no archers would it not be way to easy for one class to mass level in one room?
BH
If there where no archers would it not just be super easy for a wizard to level by TUing Ghouls?
HP for BDD is being adjusted anyway so wizards should be able to to use TS also while in there
The way I see it if there where no archers would it not be way to easy for one class to mass level in one room?
BH
- Dec 2, 2005
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Archers are the mobs TUd not Ghouls (not sure if that's what you ment).
IMO if u take away ghouls, wizards just spend all day TUin with no other hassle... the ghouls keep it balanced.. without them, wizards would just be stupid.
Maybe im wrong here, but can the wizards even TU ghouls? I know on the website it says lvl 39, but im lvl 42 and I cant even trap a ghoul in BDD. Maybe im just being drunk and completely wrong.
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wizards already have it far to easy in ghoul room lol... its the quickest lvling area by a mile. Maybe you should work on better lvling areas for melle first
this is a silly post. there shouldnt be that many archers in there anyway. you shouldnt be able to just stand still tuing in 1 spot allday long, its stupid. there should be a better mix of ghouls and archers in there. ghoul room used to be a good levelling spot for melee players on other servers when bdd mobs didnt have ridiculous health but the archers just make it crap. you should at least have to run around a bit to find a mob to TU. not just stand in that doorway area allday. as moka said. he was drunk. lets take it as that and forget this was even brought up :P
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a spawn which needs to be fixed to benefit wizzies are pet spawns on fox cave first floor. LESS FOXES MORE PETS. the ratio is screwed and with it being so bugged, those ranged mobs just absolutely batter you.
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a spawn which needs to be fixed to benefit wizzies are pet spawns on fox cave first floor. LESS FOXES MORE PETS. the ratio is screwed and with it being so bugged, those ranged mobs just absolutely batter you.
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Exactly, i dunno how anyone can complain about ghouls when you got 40-50 odd archers spawn at that door every 2-3 mins, wizzys are lucky that they all spawn there, people just afk lvling(which is stupid in a place like BDD) in the corner there anyway while wizzys tu lol... if anything archers should be spread out more across the room n not just the door especially with mobs being changed to be more TS friendly.
Leave the room as it is please, just archers would make it too easy and boring.
Plus it makes me laugh when ppl mess up the ghoul room for wizards. ( they mess up the room so wizzy cant lvl then they cant pass through lol)
Plus it makes me laugh when ppl mess up the ghoul room for wizards. ( they mess up the room so wizzy cant lvl then they cant pass through lol)
i dont want it too be "easy" i just want it to be viable to go tame pets. takes me 12 Rt bundles to find 5 redfrogspiders in there. and half the time i find them theyre in the middle of about 20 fox caster mobs. and that spam from just one is bad enough nevermind when theres 5+ and their range is broken. so as soon as they show as a red dot on your map they start flinging **** at you.... not to mention the only skill to kill them fast enough with is ... lightning... so you have to line them up to kill them! its totalllllyyyy ferrrrrkeddddddd
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I would of kept the HP the same, and reduced the mobs within this room, so its not so busy all the time but to counter balance this now you would need to ad a cave for level 40+ as Orcs is to much solo PT PSC ZT etc get boring after so long of mir and also we use these at around level 30+ so new caves would be a good idea, for in-between frozen temple and these maps tbh.
The archers in the room should randomly spawn... not just spawn at 1 place. Its that simple. you have only to look at the rankings to see wizz are lvling much quicker than any other class
40-50 every 2-3 minutes ? I WISH! sometimes there are only 10 and with the amount of players that run through BDD how often do you think we have to keep luring ghouls out? not to mention the pking that goes on.
oh you forgot to mention how expensive TUing is and wizards have to repot every 20 - 25 minutes because of bag weight issues and that's a lvl 46 wiz bag weight.
Oh you also forgot to mention the awesome drops in there. best item after doing 130% exp lvl 45 to lvl 46 and 30%.
A KNIGHT BRACE and a Puri sword +2socket. No that wont cover the 8 mill I spent on pots and I think Apolonia calculated it would cost 12 mill in pots for lvl 47.
Check out swampducks work of art post ( no idea how to link fourm posts) that would have taken 3 lures about 5 mins to do. Yet to clear it for a good TU session could take up to 30 min as you have players trying to get to the higher floors luring ghouls back up.
How about that, a mass killing class reduced to killing a single target for faster lvling.
So no, don't spread the archers out.
it cost shitloads but you level really fast. dont see the issue really. the only issue is that this should not be the only place to level. other spells should do more damage and bdd mob hp should be lower, which is what is happening. the archers all spawning in the door was not intended just so that wizards could go TU them for 12 hours a day and level really fast. they are there to make it hard for people to get through the door. TU is not a spell which should be used to kill loads of mobs consecutively to level really fast, this is why it has such a high mana cost. it is a spell which is more used for utility to kill the odd mob when you see it for a nice little xp boost to your hunt. archers should be spread out. wizzies should be levelling with TS/pets/lightning/firewall/icestorm and then when the odd mob is available for TU they can use TU.
i levelled from 38 to 39 TUing rats in zt. i didnt expect there to be a room full of only rats. i had to run around and find them. i had a couple of pets to handle wedgemoths and bugbat maggots, and i had to lightning kill the archers.
i could have probly levelled just as fast and losing less cash if i had got 5 pets and TS'd psc with the current drops their you can literally TS it for hours with 5 redfrogspiders.
as a level 45 wiz you should be TSing places like BDD and getting the higher level pets and solo TSing other places. not standing in the doorway of a bdd floor TUing archers for hours on end.
Bollox, know why most of the wizzy are at the top? because we don't do anything but TU. Cant remember the last time I saw a boss besides KS which I e shock and run past because guess what? I cant kill it. only class which cant solo it?
Wizards are meant to lvl fast form mass killing not killing 1 mob a time.
Cost too much and any one can **** it up for you and in-case you have 2 more wizzies with you.. its worthless
theyre sorting health in ZT and BDD out soon so it will be worth TSing there again. i dont feel the TUing of archers in ghoul room needs much of a tweak tbh. but i do think they should be spread out, if youre a sin without moonlight and there isnt a wiz TUing archers then you really will struggle getting thru that door. its ridiculous.
wizzies need alot of changes. an idea would be to make bosses more susceptable to magic damage. if theyre worried about the pvp side being unbalanced at least lower mob amc so you can hurt them. sometimes my firewall completely misses mobs. it shouldnt be like that. and i was walking thru a wizzies firewall on my warrior the other day thinking my tigernecklace kicked ass.. then realised i wasnt wearing a tiger necklace. theyre a broken class at the moment unfortunately.
wizzies need alot of changes. an idea would be to make bosses more susceptable to magic damage. if theyre worried about the pvp side being unbalanced at least lower mob amc so you can hurt them. sometimes my firewall completely misses mobs. it shouldnt be like that. and i was walking thru a wizzies firewall on my warrior the other day thinking my tigernecklace kicked ass.. then realised i wasnt wearing a tiger necklace. theyre a broken class at the moment unfortunately.