Whats the rules?

[terriblen]

A screenie of someone with mobs luring them through the town gates proves nothing except they could lure mobs through the town gates.
If someone dies in a town then they were afk and cannot take a screenie.
If you have a screenie of someone luring in a town then it was a failed attempt to lure on a sz and you cant ban for failing.

Point is that you cannot have rules for this. There are low life teen angst hormonal drugged up drunk forgotten to take their meds people all over the internet.
You are of course entitled to your opinion that it is grief play but 12 years of the game says no one is gonna do anything about it.
I even agree with you a bit but a realistic view says it cannot be stopped and its going to keep on happening. Good thing is there's a simple answer and it doesn't happen that often

 

[Tai]

If you have a screenie of someone luring in a town then it was a failed attempt to lure on a sz and you cant ban for failing.

That's like saying you can't go to prison for attempted murder.

Open your window and let some fresh air in mate

 

[Koriban]

Honestly, it's a scumbag thing to do and it'll always happen in one way or another (grief play)

Whether or not it's a reportable/bannable offense I'm not sure. I think consistent grief play, where your sole purpose is to grief other players, should warrant a ban as nobody wants that type of player on their server.

The only issue is, roughly 70% of Mir community is "that" type of player lol.

 

[ChaseyLane]

Do you not think this is over policing..? Look at euro as a blinding example ran for years with next to no gm assistance.

Admittedly towards the last 12 months it was rife with cheaters but for the vast majority of the lifespan of the server, matters of "griefing" was simply just left alone and in turn was never a problem as people just had to think a little bit about where to and where not to go afk.

The ironic thing is people never complained as the knew it would fall on deaf ears, now people realise we have a gm team that pay attention they seem to cry about every little detail whether its stoppable or not.

Don't get me wrong I am by no means condoning grief play by any stretch of the imagination ... I'm mearly pointing out its one of the crap facts of life and also realistically there is very little that can be done about it

 

[kickey]

Go afk in wooma woods, the only lureable mobs cant do any damage on people above level 15 lol.

As for greif play, yeah its sadly part of the game, but cursing luck 7 weps because of people greinf also is sad and disappointing, server seems to be failing regardless probably not gonna be much worry of greif play whenever there aren't people playing lol.

 

[Follower]

server seems to be failing regardless probably not gonna be much worry of greif play whenever there aren't people playing lol.

Servers fail because of attitudes like yours.

If there were more people on the team that could dedicate more time to issues things would get fixed in a more prompt manner. It doesn't help that the first sign of a little extra speed from a character has everyone crying 'CHEAT'... They have enough to worry about than monitoring players who have a tweaked PC.

These guys aren't big companies like WeMade who get paid to solely focus on keeping atop of a game. They have lives and work just like normal people. Have faith that over time things will get changed, it's not something that can be done overnight. This, as much as grief play as it is, there are much higher priority problems in the game than worrying about cursing a luck7 wep because you fancied a PK just outside of SZ. If you have a luck7 wep, don't use it for PK until this issue is fully resolved, it really isn't hard to figure out surely?

I swear the immaturity on this server is worse than that when we were all 12 on the official game. I actually logged on yesterday in BW SZ to a group spouting mum jokes around... logged off to my non-guilded char and levelled a little in peace and quiet because I couldn't believe what I was witnessing. These guys were all of the age 20+ too, pretty naughty tbh.

To top off this post, If you don't like it why are you still here?

 

[Jicaa]

To top off this post, If you don't like it why are you still here?

There is no rule about posting on this forum even if you don't like it. The server had huge potential, but the majority of players have left now, the one's who stayed must still enjoy the euro style/huge grind within the game, don't get me wrong... that's how mir is, but the private server scene has come too far away from euro for any euro style server without enough updates/content to survive.

And please don't say "it still has hundreds of players" or "it has the most players for a private server"(this line isn't aimed at you, just people who would say it in general :P), yes it does but only because it has 5 classes and more advanced files.

 

[Follower]

There is no rule about posting on this forum even if you don't like it. The server had huge potential, but the majority of players have left now, the one's who stayed must still enjoy the euro style/huge grind within the game, don't get me wrong... that's how mir is, but the private server scene has come too far away from euro for any euro style server without enough updates/content to survive.

And please don't say "it still has hundreds of players" or "it has the most players for a private server"(this line isn't aimed at you, just people who would say it in general :P), yes it does but only because it has 5 classes and more advanced files.

I don't like mushrooms, but I don't ask for a portion with my full english and complain to the chef that I don't like them every time do I... (best analogy I could come up with, lol)

I know there's no rules but generally if you don't like something you don't return to it or leave it alone.

Server still has huge potential, it was just released to soon imo. This should still be the Beta stages. As previous, give it time, everyone has their levels sorted now, have a break if it's not for you anymore or just play less until the issues you feel most strongly about are resolved. I play all five classes in my spare time, trial another class for the time being if it's not spiced up enough for you, it helps trust me.

I just don't see the point in people coming about complaining in the general section when there are Bug forums for it.

Anyway, that's my piece.

 

[Jicaa]

I don't like mushrooms, but I don't ask for a portion with my full english and complain to the chef that I don't like them every time do I... (best analogy I could come up with, lol)

I know there's no rules but generally if you don't like something you don't return to it or leave it alone.

Server still has huge potential, it was just released to soon imo. This should still be the Beta stages. As previous, give it time, everyone has their levels sorted now, have a break if it's not for you anymore or just play less until the issues you feel most strongly about are resolved. I play all five classes in my spare time, trial another class for the time being if it's not spiced up enough for you, it helps trust me.

I just don't see the point in people coming about complaining in the general section when there are Bug forums for it.

Anyway, that's my piece.

I enjoy all 5 classes, I just don't have the time and patience to play a low rate which is why I have mentioned a few times they should open a higher rate version. However this wouldn't really work, as i think the low rate players would get upset if players moved to the higher rate just cause it's "faster" >.<

 

[lancelot1]

Seems fair? How?
Explain how stopping many players from hunting by blocking a doorway is like one being player lured on. They are not the same.
I already said, one stops people from playing . Just to be really clear I am talkin about blocking doors.
Going afk is not playing.
That's the big difference between the two situations. One is about stopping people from playing the other is about people who have already stopped actively playing.
Sounds like nit picking to me but please go risk a ban for grief if u want

You can PK someone who's AFKing in front of ST entrance and take off your weapon, you'll be yellow for 2 minutes and lose 1 body luck. What's the issue with blocking doors in places that aren't SZ? The workaround is dead easy.

 

[ventus]

Things like this make NEW players quit and never come back. I brought a few new people to the wonderful world of mir... They asked why are people such assholes. They enjoyed the questing and mizu village part of the game. Soon as the grief started in the higher level areas they said "**** this game, where are the game masters? why are these players allowed to do this..." and quit.

No game will grow like this.

We need to set some rules.

 

[The NightAngel]

Things like this make NEW players quit and never come back. I brought a few new people to the wonderful world of mir... They asked why are people such assholes. They enjoyed the questing and mizu village part of the game. Soon as the grief started in the higher level areas they said "**** this game, where are the game masters? why are these players allowed to do this..." and quit.

No game will grow like this.

We need to set some rules.

I agree and have gone through the same thing with some of my friends.
it’s not many but I had 3 people new to mir who were quite interested, loved killing WT for the first time (remember that magic 15 years ago?) then saw what the "community" is like and decided not to bother anymore.

For a lot of people mir is played after work, house work, kids to bed, partner sorted as a switch off and chill, then you get interrupted from your chill time realizing your pretty much stood outside your local spar surrounded in jobless, ignorant, egotistical, selfish, unfriendly arseholes who in reality probably wouldn’t act like they do in game in real life.

although I don’t play a great deal of hours per week so it’s not a great loss to the team but I have reduced my playing time by over half again for these very reasons. it could just be that mir isn’t for me. I was excited to be playing it again since I quit euro all them years ago but I guess I’m too old to be putting up with the bullshlt that happens in game and on the forums.

 

[lancelot1]

Things like this make NEW players quit and never come back. I brought a few new people to the wonderful world of mir... They asked why are people such assholes. They enjoyed the questing and mizu village part of the game. Soon as the grief started in the higher level areas they said "**** this game, where are the game masters? why are these players allowed to do this..." and quit.

No game will grow like this.

We need to set some rules.

MMOs are like people. They have their youth, with growth spurts, then they plateau into adulthood. Mir, by MMO standards, is a living fossil. There's no more "growth". The only potential is for old players to return. It'll never again hit 700k subscribers on concurrently, that's for damned sure.

I'd love to see slightly more carebearishness (SZ on first floors of leveling dungeons or at the very least outside them where the mission mobs spawn) and much more painful repercussions for PKing. Being yellow for 2 minutes and the chance of losing one luck (when people are selling benes by the hundreds) is hardly a deterrent. Declaring guild wars could also be made much, much more expensive - I don't think anyone ever envisioned it being used for consequence-less mass PKing.

I agree and have gone through the same thing with some of my friends.
it’s not many but I had 3 people new to mir who were quite interested, loved killing WT for the first time (remember that magic 15 years ago?) then saw what the "community" is like and decided not to bother anymore.

For a lot of people mir is played after work, house work, kids to bed, partner sorted as a switch off and chill, then you get interrupted from your chill time realizing your pretty much stood outside your local spar surrounded in jobless, ignorant, egotistical, selfish, unfriendly arseholes who in reality probably wouldn’t act like they do in game in real life.

although I don’t play a great deal of hours per week so it’s not a great loss to the team but I have reduced my playing time by over half again for these very reasons. it could just be that mir isn’t for me. I was excited to be playing it again since I quit euro all them years ago but I guess I’m too old to be putting up with the bullshlt that happens in game and on the forums.

I think there's a disconnect between why most of the players I know loved and played Mir 13 years ago and why they play it now. Many of us were young, had lots of free time, could look for OmaWarriors or LameApes or WT for hours on end w/o being bothered by it or considering it a waste of our time. We didn't mind being PKed, as we had the liberty to dedicate the next 5 hours of our day to organize a manhunt and get sweet, sweet revenge.

Now we're adults. We have jobs, we have responsibilities, we have social lives outside of internet cafés. But we jump into Mir all the same, expecting the same wonder and excitement we felt from solo killing ZT at level 24 as a Tao with just green poison in 6 hours by hiding behind a BBM on the N>E side and getting an epic SC+1 AC+1 level 22 Armour (what, it was epic back then) and some pots for our troubles.

Then we bitch and moan that solo killing RME at 40 with poison takes 4 hours and it only drops a marble and a gem, because ****, we only had 5 hours of game time before the Mrs. gets back from her folks' and squandered it all in RMV for (sort of) **** all instead of doing the laundry, walking the dogs, preparing dinner and washing the car and that makes us frustrated.

I think Swamp (or any player that works part-time/is between jobs/is too young to have a job/has no job/has rich parents) has close to as much fun as I did 12 years ago (I'm going to go ahead and pretend the past cheating situation, current cheating accusations and forum trolling both by and aimed at him don't exist).

I still want to level my Tao though, because I still want to get cool new toys like PC and Curse and I'm still holding out that we'll get Plague (which is a far superior alternative to SFB compared to Mir 3's GTE imo).

And I'll probably get burned out on Mir because of all the reasons I mentioned above in another 6 months tops (for another year at least) unless the community can keep me here and, to be honest, the community here has a few shining stars and a whole load of asswipes that sadly more than balance the stars out.

I make myself sad when I think too much :[

 

[CraiG^]

Introduced two people to this server so far both love it, although have the same views on the community as above. Just introducing another as we speak.

 

[jez]

its safer to "log" out if you need to lay cable, afk in a shop you get pets untamed on you, SZ lured. mayb sz should be renamed to somthing else.