Why is a private server slower than the real thing?

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I am not proposing massive changes. A 50-100% increase in exp

You say your not proposing massive changes, yet in the same sentence your suggesting a 50-100% increase of exp. Are you freaking crazy or something? Please explain why THAT, would ever be a good idea for a server wanting a long future?
 

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Spells Should drop as often as it´s needed*not rare... - a little bit fine tuning would be nice i guess on all items. XP Like ?! Good Question i am still on the low level cause few years ago i got the time to play now with family kids + work - i am happy if i can relax few hours per day.
 

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So in a nutshell. Are you saying that if Map content was released on this servers launch in the same order of fashion that Euro did, the way things are now would make much more sense?
Something along those lines yes :P

That's not to say I want content deliberately withheld either though. And really, I am enjoying this server in spite of my concerns!
 

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If anything the rates are too damn high! Lower that **** pronto!

I am loving that you have to work your ass to get what you want.

Its time to get to work.


It will just take time before everything is cheap and the market is flooded. Give it a good 3 months while the no lifers grind to the top, we can have their spoils for cheap!
 
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deano13

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I carnt stand having level 20 weps at 32, level 26 weps Should not be this rare IMO... It's like we need to be level 35+ in a grp to get a 26 wep... Can see why IWTS etc drop level 7 items...
 

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Maybe you levelled too fast.
Like Samuel said server 2 weeks old. There hasn't been time for enough items to drop for everyone here. People starting the server in another month or so will see plenty of under 30 items for sale in game.
Even on old euro being boosted 40 took a while. Building a decent kit didn't happen in weeks either. Unless you got gifts but someone had to make them and it took more than a fortnight.
 

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Servers fine imo, on acem2 i was level 42/44 and in a gaxe stil count yourselves lucky getting them before hand, if you want better items at a lower level come back in a month or 2 or grind bosses etc.
 

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I am not playing anymore, but a few people still mentioning spell drop rate made my day :P

I actually liked the mir3 spell system, books were not mega rare, but even when they did drop they had a chance to fail translating, and with that system you can remove gold from the server no matter if the translate works or fails.
 

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Servers fine imo, on acem2 i was level 42/44 and in a gaxe stil count yourselves lucky getting them before hand, if you want better items at a lower level come back in a month or 2 or grind bosses etc.
That's the thing though, those that are killing bosses (which costs money to fight to KR in the first place, and we've already established money is far less abundant) are still not getting all that much for their troubles most of the time.

I'm not expecting bosses to drop every time and I don't want loot pinatas, but consider that in addition to items dropping less and gold dropping less, getting to bosses has also been made harder. Maps have been changed so that mobs swarm the doors. A lot of places you could log before, you no longer can without being teleported to the lobby. I don't particularly mind this because it does encourage larger group hunting but the fact is that bosses are harder to get to and kill and drop worse than most people will be used to. Even if they do drop something like a dragon ring, it will probably have taken an entire group a lot of time and money to get it.
 

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this is def not a low rate server due to spawn rates and the number of pots dropping coupled with repeatable gold quests meaning you can hunt for free.

it is low drop rate and low stat but not low exp in my book. i made two lvl 30's in a few weeksyes thats not hard, but no way that would happen on euro.

on this subject can the mobs in lobbys have no xp as they make leveling too fast.

i like that items and spells are rare. i would like gems/orbs/sockets out of game though
 
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Its too fast if anythin. Its only been up a couple of weeks. Rmv wasnt even introduced on Euro till 1.5? The game was out years before PB exsisted. Ppl want everything to easy after playing too many med and high rates. Save up and buy some kit, who solo killed bosses on euro 2 weeks in to get drings?
 

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Its too fast if anythin. Its only been up a couple of weeks. Rmv wasnt even introduced on Euro till 1.5? The game was out years before PB exsisted. Ppl want everything to easy after playing too many med and high rates. Save up and buy some kit, who solo killed bosses on euro 2 weeks in to get drings?

Yep... Wasnt Lv40's on euro mir for a year or something?. This servers rate is fine. People played far too many **** servers lvling to 40+ in 2 hours and all gear on a plate. Work for it, have pride in your char. Server only open 2 weeks?... let it grow xxx
 

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The problem with this server is that, it is trying to emulate an official server from a decade ago; while it is a private server that has altered most aspect of the game in some ways; The end result no longer maintains the appeal of the original game and unfortunately has no unique characteristics of its own.

I am not a hardcore MIR fan and the last server i played was the official server. I came to this game with the intention of playing something that i use to enjoy with the friends that i still keep in touch with. I have enjoyed this server so firstly let me say thank you for your work and effort. this server brought back good memories. Secondly no matter how good/bad this server is, i can not see myself playing it more than a month because i just wanted to remember the old times, i don't want to relive it.

I have seen about 660 players online at the second day of server but lately the numbers have been going down slowly. I don't point this out to say that the server is doomed or that something is wrong but rather to point out that average players now days like to play something for few months, and then move on to the next game. Of curse the truly dedicated fans/members of the game will stick around for years but those are the small minority and often very active members on forums.


Now with that said, i would like to add my opinion on this server. There are currently few things wrong with this version of Mir2.

#1: Targeting, This is the result of the aspect ratio changes [resolution] that was done to the game in order to make it look more modern. Targeting problem has a huge effect on PvP and general game play [example Tao's heal skill, you either get mass heal right now or constantly tell your friend to move since that spot cant be healed], it needs to be addressed asap.

#2 Monster AI, monsters were always a bit dumb on MIR but that was part of the appeal of the game, where a wizard sits behind a wall that was lured on by a warrior friend so he/she can put fire everywhere which results in good exp for both of them. This changes the gameplay and the usefulness of the skills.

3: Drop Rate, player exp% has been increased but the drop rate is terrible and as result you have lv35-40 players running around with level20 items which in most cases are the items bought from NPC. the drop rate needs to be increased to bring those player's items in line with their level. Also there needs to be more loot diversity, ZT, PSC, PT, BC , etc etc all pretty much drop the same items with exception of one or two different skill books. MIR's item list is not huge but it needs more than [lets put moral ring on every mobs drop file]

4: Class and Skill balance, this is the hardest part to fix and i think the one which will always be an issue on this server more than others, since you added archer to the mix. you can not have skills like heavenly blade that go from terrible to ooo my ****ing gawd what just killed me stage. The skill cast time changes also fits in this category as well.

5: the last point and the very minor one is the crafting; for example the nephrite set for Tao it requires so much White Threads that it will probably never be created by anyone while it should have been used as set that bridges gap between the next and better armor.
 
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imo the exp is fine. quite ideal

i also think the bosses and their routes are about right of what i have experienced.

the 31-40 spells need to drop more, quite simply.

i shouldnt be pushing lvl 40 and un able to find life neck, spell brace, ruby rings.. pre 1.4 i had this **** from soloing wg at lvl 24-28 with little effort.

the reason i think items like violets / power rings / titan ring tier should be quite common - is because i am interested and looking forward to seeing this tier gear with a gem or 2 on, with a socket or 2 also. really like how kit will be customised to suit each players / caves needs on here - but lets get playing these fun bits!!

people are re rolling, sz sitting, and generally getting more bored. the content is there - but the motivation is diminishing.

gl though - it is a 9/10 overall.
 

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Worthing is depressing.
I think people forget spells like TDB & Frost Crunch were rare...... Oh wait they ended up in shops. When i started on euro plat rings were 400k when left they were 50k. The server needs to naturally populate itself with items. Soon the economy will balance out. There is no point giving all players level 26 weps etc as it means people got nothing to work for till 33 etc and it repeats. Soon lower level items will become shop. People are just being impatient! Its 2 weeks for gods sake!
 

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You just can win can you. If everything dropped Powerrings everyone would be moaning about OSK rings. If the exp was faster everyone would be moaning there bored because they have out lvls the content.

euro mir drop rate was far far worse than this, I killed OSK everyday an we never got anything decent nor did the other guilds who quest for them. People had killed EM but only 1 robe had dropped (Mia had it)by the time I left, there was 2 SOWG I think, Bullpit and someone else had one. I never got a DSS an I was lvl 45 with a WSB that cost me 50 mil I think. DSS were 100+ mil. I only had OSR cos it was a guild drop, let the server grow and mature.

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I think people forget spells like TDB & Frost Crunch were rare...... Oh wait they ended up in shops. When i started on euro plat rings were 400k when left they were 50k. The server needs to naturally populate itself with items. Soon the economy will balance out. There is no point giving all players level 26 weps etc as it means people got nothing to work for till 33 etc and it repeats. Soon lower level items will become shop. People are just being impatient! Its 2 weeks for gods sake!

i spend 3 weeks hardcore leveling in PSC for TDB to drop must of killed a few million till I finally got it

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I think people forget spells like TDB & Frost Crunch were rare...... Oh wait they ended up in shops. When i started on euro plat rings were 400k when left they were 50k. The server needs to naturally populate itself with items. Soon the economy will balance out. There is no point giving all players level 26 weps etc as it means people got nothing to work for till 33 etc and it repeats. Soon lower level items will become shop. People are just being impatient! Its 2 weeks for gods sake!

i spent 3 weeks hardcore leveling in PSC for TDB to drop must of killed a few million till I finally got it
 

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The problem is, people are so use to receiving everything a lot easier then on here. However the exp to drop ratio still feels abit off imo, you should atleast have a couple of useful things drop by the time you hit 40.

The exp rate is great and the only reason I decided to stop playing was how poor the drop to exp ratio is.
 

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low drop rates are good! make them lower! and also make exp rates lower to!! lets see people take pride in what they earn now days and shead some tears and heart dropping feeling when they drop something expencive, the heart droping feeling when u drop something is what I miss the most, gets tht adrenilne pumping and panic setts in while your rush back hoping its still on the floor!!!!! for a server that will be worth playing for years to come, you should drag out the updates and extra content aswell to keep people interested and something to look forward to, don't give it to us all in one go :)
 
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I think people forget spells like TDB & Frost Crunch were rare...... Oh wait they ended up in shops. When i started on euro plat rings were 400k when left they were 50k. The server needs to naturally populate itself with items. Soon the economy will balance out. There is no point giving all players level 26 weps etc as it means people got nothing to work for till 33 etc and it repeats. Soon lower level items will become shop. People are just being impatient! Its 2 weeks for gods sake!


This whole 'items' will eventually end up in shops idea is complete rubbish. Almost everything under 25 should be in the shops now, corals bluejade neck, lvl22 armours purifiers etc but they are not. You know why? Because the shops don't store what is sold to them, also whenever there is a reboot everything is wiped, so please explain how anything extra is going to 'become a shop item'?
 

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This whole 'items' will eventually end up in shops idea is complete rubbish. Almost everything under 25 should be in the shops now, corals bluejade neck, lvl22 armours purifiers etc but they are not. You know why? Because the shops don't store what is sold to them, also whenever there is a reboot everything is wiped, so please explain how anything extra is going to 'become a shop item'?

i suspect that the dev team is doing this intentionally for the moment.. i am sure they will enable store keeping when they feel is the right moment