Why is TDB doing next to no damage??

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SadClown

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Just got warrior to 32 for tdb, had high hopes as finally i could do some fast levels....

Level1 TDB hits like a noodle, it does a total of 30 damage, and this is in full dc gear with a Black Dragon Slayer with luck........

My lvl 15 sin with level 1 Double slash (Sins TDB) in crappy noob level 15 gear hits harder.......

This is not right surely? i iknow it's only level 1 but i had 70 dc compared to my sin who had maybe 20 or so......
 

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It's level 1,

My point is, a level32 damage skill with over 70 dc should be hitting a hell of a lot more than a level 15 sin spell what might i add, auto cast's too. i don't fancy leveling another 4 levels with only Halfmoon as my damage dealing spell......

Might aswell jump on the bandwagon and re roll a Sin,
 

WelshSteel

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lvl 40 for war/tao until you start enjoying yourself really, ye jus roll a sin i guess but i can't w8 till u cry at the effectiveness of these 2 when most server is 43+ with luck and good kit.
 

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Not really crying is it? comparing a level 15 sin skill to a level 32 warrior skill. i cant see tdb level 3 being that better than level 3 double slash.
 

WargodSius

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This is now the 3rd thread about this, keep it to one. Jamie may then listen, he may not. I don't find it underwhelming at all, but I honestly seem to be in the minority here.
 

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The real power in TDB comes with the stuns. The more you stun the more damage you deal. As you level TDB your chances rise. So guess what overall your going to do alot more damage. Just be persistent, i just leveled mine at 36 and its stun rate is quite good.
 

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The real power in TDB comes with the stuns. The more you stun the more damage you deal. As you level TDB your chances rise. So guess what overall your going to do alot more damage. Just be persistent, i just leveled mine at 36 and its stun rate is quite good.
Stun? What stun? It doesn't stun on here, it just lowers ac to zero as far as I know.
 

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It deffo needs looking at, considering it's our main damage source.
 

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Yellow a mob with TDB and then lvl 3 flaming sword it and come back to me and say it's underpowered. You need to learn how skills work, once your dc is higher and you have flaming sword tdb/fs combo is brutal.
 

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Ok, get a lvl 3 tdb... stun the fker (char turns yellow with some midget box, (sins flash dash), once they are stuned u do a flaming sword = a burst of huge damage as yellow makes em weaker... If u carry on using tdb while they yellow = they fked as it hurts 2/3x more
 

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Stun? What stun? It doesn't stun on here, it just lowers ac to zero as far as I know.

lowers amc too.

2 extremely fast hits with chance to yellow, no warr with even luck 3, damage may need tweking tho (i don't think it amps those 2 hits by much at all) but i don't see good reason why you should be rolfstomping people right now without any luck.

Any warr can confirm damage with 2x osr's and equivelent kit with lvl 3 tdb max hit?
 
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WargodSius

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Ok so testing, over 4 mins (can do longer but doesnt seem that necessary).

No TBD =

Total = 11893 ----- Avg Hit = 62 ------ DPS = 49.5

With TBD =

Total = 16488 ----- Avg Hit = 43 ------ DPS = 68.7

So TBD increases our dmg by literally 30% and greater.
 
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Shane/Banshee

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Tdb poison on here is a static 20% more damage. Not amc ax reduction. Second hit ignores defence
 

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Ok so testing, over 4 mins (can do longer but doesnt seem that necessary).

No TBD =

Total = 11893 ----- Avg Hit = 62 ------ DPS = 49.5

With TBD =

Total = 16488 ----- Avg Hit = 43 ------ DPS = 68.7

So TBD increases our dmg by literally 30% and greater.

Not to forget that one strike ignores armor, testing on the trainer with zero AC is not the best representation of the benefits of TDB.
 

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Not to forget that one strike ignores armor, testing on the trainer with zero AC is not the best representation of the benefits of TDB.
Aye, but it's the only test we can do. And at least gives some solid numbers.
 

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In all honesty i'm a level 40 warr with 3 tdb .. It's okay.. It's not great, but hey ho.. i guess it is kit based.. but with the lack of ASPEED.. it could do with a little up.. when you attack so slow and pop a 10? .. you start questioning your judgement on continuing that class.. but i am not here to preach :)