Winged Oma Change

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Paxo21

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The change to winged omas has made pb much harder to lvl. This only helps the people who levelled their before the change who are now a head. The casuals are the ones who this change effects, can you please give your reasons for this change so late after so many have benefited from it?

Thanks in advance
 

GinkoTreeValley

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Mate, it sucks but it’s done we all gotta move on and hope advantages in future and kept to a minimum
 

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I have to agree here, as much as I think it was important to fix them, they'll only lose players due to this change.
 

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I agree, too much benefit has already been had by others. It should have been fixed right away or not at all.
 

JC/Raiden

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These days I'm a casual player and I don't give a toss about this change, so you don't speak for everybody. As far as losing players is concerned, those of you who do leave because others have benefited over a change which should have been made asap, you can't have been that interested in the server to begin with.

And it's also very likely those of you who are complaining over this change will only find something else similar to complain about down the road, even if this change wasn't made.
 

GinkoTreeValley

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These days I'm a casual player and I don't give a toss about this change, so you don't speak for everybody. As far as losing players is concerned, those of you who do leave because others have benefited over a change which should have been made asap, you can't have been that interested in the server to begin with.

And it's also very likely those of you who are complaining over this change will only find something else similar to complain about down the road, even if this change wasn't made.

i think that’s unfair the list of screw ups in this servers short life is longer than it should be who knows what’s next, I may be considered a troll but when you have spent money and find out ppl ahead have had the pleasure of easy exp it’s ahard pull to swallow.

that being said ye maybe they are cowboys or don’t check everything it’s clear there making money and will therefore put time an effort into the game.
 

JC/Raiden

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i think that’s unfair the list of screw ups in this servers short life is longer than it should be who knows what’s next, I may be considered a troll but when you have spent money and find out ppl ahead have had the pleasure of easy exp it’s ahard pull to swallow.

that being said ye maybe they are cowboys or don’t check everything it’s clear there making money and will therefore put time an effort into the game.

I understand what you're saying fella, but as far as screw ups are concerned haven't they basically been part of the package to any private server over the past X amount of years? I'm not saying this justifies the mistakes the developer/coders make. But surely by now those of us that have played servers here, there and everywhere have to expect this by now?

I did a long a long time ago, so it's just too hard to care when things like this happen. Everybody should voice there concerns 100%, but talk of giving up the server over this specific change? Don't you think that's a little melodramatic?
 

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Hello all,

Unfortunately we cannot all be tarnished with the same brush. Let me give you guys a small lesson, in the life of unfair!

Patch notes are a key feature to read, in this. The "casual" players moan that because winged omas have been corrected that they cannot level as fast as the other players which did not have this.

Well what about the "hardcore players" moaning about the fact the last patch made all mobs 3% easier to kill?

You are all looking from a one dimensional point of view. Please open your eyes, read the patch notes and any concerns that its all one sided after that i will look into it.

This isn't me digging at anybody more of a, stop thinking about yourselves and think about the global scale of the community.

Kind regards DVS
 

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Hello all,

Unfortunately we cannot all be tarnished with the same brush. Let me give you guys a small lesson, in the life of unfair!

Patch notes are a key feature to read, in this. The "casual" players moan that because winged omas have been corrected that they cannot level as fast as the other players which did not have this.

Well what about the "hardcore players" moaning about the fact the last patch made all mobs 3% easier to kill?

You are all looking from a one dimensional point of view. Please open your eyes, read the patch notes and any concerns that its all one sided after that i will look into it.

This isn't me digging at anybody more of a, stop thinking about yourselves and think about the global scale of the community.

Kind regards DVS

because at the start of the server it has already been admitted you boosted all mobs damage over level 20 by 15% and you've only reduced them by a 3%.
 

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Isn't that just the curse of casual players?
If something was easier and then gets changed to make it more difficult, the hard core players benefited because they put more time in, if you put the same amount of time in, you'd be in the same place.

Casual players have a double edged sword, **** that hardcore players have struggled with get made easier so casuals find it a breeze, but you can also find that things hardcore players glided through become harder through changes.

Patches are always going to happen, it will never favor or benefit everyone, if you have played mmorpgs for any length of time, you learn to adapt not just cry and quit a game that you apparently enjoyed up until the change.
 

DiabloVodkaShot

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Yet again Exwizz looking at it one directional:

Look at the pros and cons:

Hardcore Player:
Delayed Explosion buffed Patch 0.3
Archer auto attack buffed Patch 0.3 - 0.9 >

Explosive Trap buffed 20% Patch 0.3

Boss & Mob stats increased Patch 0.4
FW Mp nerf patch 0.4

Orc Exp Increased late game

Never had Sets tiill 0.8-0.9

Never had extra exp pots whilst leveling.

FD Got Nerfed -
TS buffed
Lightning buffed

Casual Player:
Delayed Explosion buffed Patch 0.3
Archer auto attack buffed Patch 0.3 - 0.9 > More benefit for casual players....

Explosive Trap 20% increase Patch 0.3
FW MP nerf patch 0.4

Boss & Mob stats decreased Patch 0.9 - easier to kill to level
Orc Exp Increased
Sets Amended

Extra Exp Potions

FD Got Nerfed
Thunderstorm Buffed
Lightning Buffed


The point i am trying to get across here, is that some patches benefit the hardcore players and some benefit the casual players, but looking in review of the notes so far. I would say its pretty even.

Hope this clears it up

-DVS
 

Aluvian

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Yet again Exwizz looking at it one directional:

Look at the pros and cons:

Hardcore Player:
Delayed Explosion buffed Patch 0.3
Archer auto attack buffed Patch 0.3 - 0.9 >

Explosive Trap buffed 20% Patch 0.3

Boss & Mob stats increased Patch 0.4
FW Mp nerf patch 0.4

Orc Exp Increased late game

Never had Sets tiill 0.8-0.9

Never had extra exp pots whilst leveling.

FD Got Nerfed -
TS buffed
Lightning buffed

Casual Player:
Delayed Explosion buffed Patch 0.3
Archer auto attack buffed Patch 0.3 - 0.9 > More benefit for casual players....

Explosive Trap 20% increase Patch 0.3
FW MP nerf patch 0.4

Boss & Mob stats decreased Patch 0.9 - easier to kill to level
Orc Exp Increased
Sets Amended

Extra Exp Potions

FD Got Nerfed
Thunderstorm Buffed
Lightning Buffed


The point i am trying to get across here, is that some patches benefit the hardcore players and some benefit the casual players, but looking in review of the notes so far. I would say its pretty even.

Hope this clears it up

-DVS

This makes like, zero sense.
 

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To be fair, it's mostly now a warrior/tao/sin levelling haven and wizzies should be going to Howling any way, easier to lure, no ranged and similar exp.

Realistically, wizzies and archers can't go there as effectively anymore, and I think that's fine - it's probably about time warr/sin/tao had their primary spot.
 

Paxo21

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Pb was the primary levelling spot for all 33+ it was quick with good items. It's a big change basically making it so wizzies and archers can no longer solo there, buffing and nerfing a few spells and saying look at big picture doesn't really compare. Even the people who have used it to get to 40 are agreeing it was a bad change
 

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Guys, this is what is meant by one dimensional:

You all want the shadow step change, but you dont want the winged oma change.. when somethings wrong we want to fix, if that means it effects you positively (like all non sins for shadowstep) or negatively (winged omas, ranged class) this is unfortunately the pros and cons.

If we follow this current post. we leave shadow step alone,
and revert winged omas.

This is what we mean, its no dig, but its the bigger picture. Trying to make it better for the game, not the individual.

Make your mind up to help us :P

-Apocalypse Team
 

Aluvian

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Guys, this is what is meant by one dimensional:

You all want the shadow step change, but you dont want the winged oma change.. when somethings wrong we want to fix, if that means it effects you positively (like all non sins for shadowstep) or negatively (winged omas, ranged class) this is unfortunately the pros and cons.

If we follow this current post. we leave shadow step alone,
and revert winged omas.

This is what we mean, its no dig, but its the bigger picture. Trying to make it better for the game, not the individual.

Make your mind up to help us :P

-Apocalypse Team

One is a class balance issue, the other is a bug.

They are totally different issues and shouldnt be dealt with the same way at all.
 

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Up the damage/rs rate of cross bows 10% n call it middle ground xD
Winged are v common compared to x bows youve raped the area for zee noobs!
I did 33-39 in pb and made prob 20m or more in sales and drops, ask the latest 39 wiz how he levelled

P.s most of the high wizards levelled via tu'ing frogs for crazy xp in fox cave - community hours will do!

Snakeeee
Snakeeeeeeeeee
*game over*

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1Dodge1

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One thing you could do... Is take Nodes out the game as they give **** EXP take ages to kill and they pull your pets (Tao pets) onto them constant even if you don't attack them lol gets annoying when you have 4/5nodes in a area with mobs and your pets off bashing the nodes instead of the thing you have poisoned, I mentioned this before to you xx69xx and you said you'd add to the list to fix but would be easier to just take Nodes out and add in more mobs or maybe a new mob?