Dragon Chronicle Closed?

[Robert]

Yes it was in its prime friend... it opened with 80-90 players... if the bugs were ruled out and not restart had happened then it would have proberly been the most successful LOM Serv for years... BUT due to it being rebooted twice there will be caution when it reopens... "Should i play, may go down, ill try it when its been open for a month or so" AND believe me that will happen DC will have 20-30 players max for a couple of months before people start playing... IT may after that time reach a new prime... for now it went up then down...

/Echo

DC was not in its prime. A server has to be stable for a sustained period of time with a regular user base for it to be called in its prime.

@ crawford - Dc did take current 1.9 server players away from their servers. There was a hell of a lot of ragezoners playing.

And noone said DC nor any other product will be coming from out team.

 

[Holy]

u need to shutup son. I'm sure Xander knows what he's doing. I dno whether dc will return or not, and ye sure its risky to close it down now, IF DC team will bring out a server, and want a high player count from the word GO, but the best things always come from risks. MentaL and this td guy are actin alll big now but i bet there brickin it inside u no y?, cos there pus$ys

only time will tell.

/OO1

Yeh homey i see what your saying son cause like you are the wickedness... what a twat...

MentaL always acts "big" cause he knows what his talking about... TD can act "big" because his releasing the most up to date files around and personally i dont see why they would be "brickin it" because even if they are "pus$ys" its not like someone like you can accord to travel to them and do anything isit? not with you spending all ya money buying friends...

chav...

DC was not in its prime. A server has to be stable for a sustained period of time with a regular user base for it to be called in its prime.



@ crawford - Dc did take current 1.9 server players away from their servers. There was a hell of a lot of ragezoners playing.



And noone said DC nor any other product will be coming from out team.

Your saying its closed right? and its not coming back... there for that WAS DC's prime... not saying it was bad... just saying that 80/90 users was its prime... unless of course youv havnt actually closed it, you waiting for the right time to reopen it... then of course as you say... it would have to "be stable for a sustained period of time with a regular user base for it to be called in its prime."

/Echo

 

[.ViruS]

TD's files arent released to a single server hes releasing to anyone who wants them, they just dont comply with the original DM2 licensing so lomcn doesnt allow their location to be posted
(all DM2 servers are supposedly meant to give out the client source files)

Theres no supposedly about it, the source is ment to come with or be available on request if you release an exe. Can you provide the source for your client if i asked for it? Nope becuase you are using TDs files.

Now theres nothing wrong with that becuase its a better set than LomCNs SVN but your breaking the rules and that is why Nemesis is not allowed to be linked to.

 

[MentaL]

i aint been called a pussy in a while, hehehe.....

 

[Holy]

Theres no supposedly about it, the source is ment to come with or be available on request if you release an exe. Can you provide the source for your client if i asked for it? Nope becuase you are using TDs files.

Now theres nothing wrong with that becuase its a better set than LomCNs SVN but your breaking the rules and that is why Nemesis is not allowed to be linked to.

So it would be ok if TD worked privately on his own server then his files can be linked? but if he releases just the .exe's then its not? :S

/Echo

 

[.ViruS]

If TD didn't post his .exes or release them then he would be fine if he release private without any one know then whos to say hes been releasing it?

The GPL says any binarys posted by be accompanied with the source or made available on request.

 

[MentaL]

the gpl is bull**** dumbass, because the files are not nicks, they are someone elses that got stolen............ ie.. not ownership of lomcn, nick or anyone else.

http://www.lomcn.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=47459

 

[LeoCrasher]

the gpl is bull**** dumbass, because the files are not nicks, they are someone elses that got stolen............ ie.. not ownership of lomcn, nick or anyone else.

http://www.lomcn.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=47459

And they know that. However the work the DM2 Team wrote in addition is protected under the GPL.

The DM2 teams work is the work TD stole and added too himself... without credit. If he had taken the GameOfMir source then fair dos... but he didn't.

/Leo

 

[MentaL]

I always thought it was td from 1.5 to around 1.9 working solo, so i think that changes the situation.

 

[Holy]

And they know that. However the work the DM2 Team wrote in addition is protected under the GPL.

The DM2 teams work is the work TD stole and added too himself... without credit. If he had taken the GameOfMir source then fair dos... but he didn't.

/Leo

You say TD "Stole" it but yet he still promotes the files as DiamondM2 he doesnt call them TheDeathM2, he simply works on making the private mir better... but then am i right in thinking that people who use his files are not allowed to promote them selfs on these forums the same as everyone else?

Yet DragonChronicles are allowed to promote there server without releaseing Source nor .exe's... thats a big joke...

/Echo

 

[Sawell]

I'm pretty sure the GPL is there to remind people that without LOMCN they wouldn't have the source, I guess it's up to the user to decide if the community should prosper from your knowledge or if you wish to betray the community that helped you get this far by showing your back to them. Afaik LOMCN is only interested in getting their source as close to euro as possible; not an unreasonable request, I don't think they expect you to share developments which are far-removed from the original game.

It all comes down to morals at the end of the day. It's very easy to pass stuff off because "you've worked hard on it".

 

[MentaL]

You say TD "Stole" it but yet he still promotes the files as DiamondM2 he doesnt call them TheDeathM2, he simply works on making the private mir better... but then am i right in thinking that people who use his files are not allowed to promote them selfs on these forums the same as everyone else?

Yet DragonChronicles are allowed to promote there server without releaseing Source nor .exe's... thats a big joke...

/Echo

Thats cos they got majority of lomcn staff on their team to avoid this problem....

 

[LeoCrasher]

You say TD "Stole" it but yet he still promotes the files as DiamondM2 he doesnt call them TheDeathM2, he simply works on making the private mir better... but then am i right in thinking that people who use his files are not allowed to promote them selfs on these forums the same as everyone else?

Yet DragonChronicles are allowed to promote there server without releaseing Source nor .exe's... thats a big joke...

/Echo

So not only does he steal their combined effort for his personal gain, he steals the branding too?

Working to make MIR better is a worthy goal, and one which should be promoted. However its important to consider why development of the DM2 files was started - to stop relying on a single source of whom you have no control over. Which is exactly the situation your falling back into with TD.

The GPL is there to make sure development continues and that anyone can contribute. It protects the community spirit. I'm told DC failed to provide accurate sources of their client, and thus failed the community spirit. I can believe that, and I'm dissapointed. However this should in no way degrade the severity of what TD did.

And yes. You would be correct in saying that servers which use TD files are currently not allowed to advertise on LOMCN, unless they can supply the sources of any binaries they release.

/Leo

 

[MiloFoxburr]

Relying on TheDeath will just make things as bad as when we relied on the chinese for updates..

Open Source was the only way Mir could go.. Worked pretty well for a while at least

 

[grand99]

the GMs really had no clue

What he said.
was the only active 2.3 server tho so its still a bad thing.

 

[NickAKAVexus]

Relying on TheDeath will just make things as bad as when we relied on the chinese for updates..

Open Source was the only way Mir could go.. Worked pretty well for a while at least

Honestly milo its still a success.

TD won't be around forever, soon enough people will be begging for new releases and just like the chinese it will stop.

I'll choose the source route any day.

 

[Holy]

Relying on TheDeath will just make things as bad as when we relied on the chinese for updates..

Open Source was the only way Mir could go.. Worked pretty well for a while at least

I agree we are going back into the hole chinese thing but with a difference TD does do custom release's if he believes there for a worthy cause... if someone asks him to add horse's he will problem say no, simply because there pointless in mir2...

iv asked him to add a few things for me so far and they have already been added (allow client to read up to objects.30) im not saying that TD making it a closed source is a good thing i would prefer it to be open also im saying that TD isnt going to release his sources along with DC... so why should one be punished but the other not? its not like TD is working on them for private use his .exe's are open to all...

PS not having a dig or pissed with DC i think when they do open and its been tested it will be a great server and nor am i siding up with RaGEZONE even tho i have enjoyed pretty much everyone of there servers... im just saying it is abit unfair to the people who use TD's files...

/Echo

 

[MiloFoxburr]

Honestly milo its still a success.

TD won't be around forever, soon enough people will be begging for new releases and just like the chinese it will stop.

I'll choose the source route any day.

Chinese still update quite frequently infact theres more server groups than ever now.. I know numerous ones have shanda's hero system fully coded along with some of the dual skills..

-edit- For the record DC did release there client source's (Pretty sure BH has em on this laptop somewhere) however they had to be requested which satisfied Dataforce.. Dont think BH got them compiling though something about needing somethings from there grobal2.pas file

-edit2- The above edit was directed at Holy btw

 

[NickAKAVexus]

lol milo based off dm2 source or theirs?

 

[.ViruS]

What he said.
was the only active 2.3 server tho so its still a bad thing.

lol no clue? As apposed to you:
Setting up a 2.3 server??
Making a 2.3 server for offline
Gems And/Or Crafting
2.3 Online?
1 Hit KO problem

Just a few posts taken from DM2 section, im sure theres more every where aound LomCN.

And yes DC sources were released to those who asked. I have a copy of them just unable to compile it. What do you expect from just a client source? Not aimed at milo.