Is it true.

[anto]

What people arn't realising is that we don't know everything about life and the universe, think back to 100's of years ago when something strange happened today we would know the reason it why/how it happened and it wouldn't be strange to us at all, when they tried to figure it out they would have a basic idea of how it happened and they would build from that and do research and eventually find the out how/why it happens. What i'm trying to say is that the evolution theory may have gaps in it but we haven't discovered every tiny little thing about everything, so when we understand the universe and life more then we would understand how it actually happened imo.

I really can't believe that there is a god though, it's just stupid.

 

[mythonline]

tass, now what are the odds that they will go together in the right order ect? that was my point.
anto, those "little gaps" are the start of the creation in that process, if u cant prove it really happen, does it really matter if ppls proved the other steps?

 

[Kekekeke]

Your all geeks irl

Bow to me, I'm superior and i have ginger hair

 

[MiloFoxburr]

if u cant prove it really happen

Not yet..

Theres no doubt that the blanks will be discovered in time.

 

[mythonline]

yup, only time will tell

 

[anto]

Are you an idiot myth i've just said that.

 

[Kekekeke]

Shame it isn't ipixel that posted that >;-D

 

[mythonline]

ant, keep thinking ,its good to think

 

[Atomicide]

2) who said in the bible that mankind did not evolved from chimps? to god it did take a day, what suggest a process, it could be that god did watch the process and bent it to he's will.

The bible explicitly states Humans started with Adam and Eve, the first human, created by god, and that Eve was created from adams rib. Many seriously devout christians refuse to beleive anything else, up to the point where they deny the existance of dinosaurs.

Now you keep going on about life, and how hard it is to recreate and everything else. Lets assume for a second god was able to create life, and then assume god was also able to manipulate life to enact the evolution process. If this is true, then human beings are on a par with god in one respect.

We have already succesfully managed to manipulate life and its design. We have managed to genetically make a clone, and not only that, we have succesfully managed to map the human genetic code. We can cure disease, manipulate bacteria to produce drugs (example being insulin), clone other animals (as well as ourselves if the scientific community would allow it). Throught time, this "god" has never shown an ability to do things like remove disease, but humans can. Humans can manipulate life on various levels, and apparently this "god" can as well.

Using this, you can basically say, the day humans succesfully recreate life from something inanimate, is the day that we ascend to the level of "god" ourselves.

 

[mythonline]

1) i thought we discussed about how mankind first showed up, and even if man can create life, he uses common sense to do it, while the nature cant.
2) yes, it is quite known that situation that man can turn to "god", i know there are a few laws that are based on that fact, while trying to prevent it, such as not to be able to clone humans in many countries around the world.
3) well i will check about the bible later, with the original language it was written (knowing Hebrew having some advantages from time to time), i didn't made it up that theory that god and science can walk together, so i am pretty sure i can find something like that there.

 

[Bacardi]

The Bible is in two distinct texts. The Old Testement and the New Testement. The old covers creationism and the establishment of the religion. The New covers Jesus Christ, the ressurection and the rest of the story. Quite a few people I know to be Christian have serious doubts about the Old Testement. The New testement holds a little more weight. Dont think of the Bible as one book. Its a collection of accounts from dozens of people spanning thousands of years. And as with everything, much is down to interpretation.

 

[Atomicide]

1) i thought we discussed about how mankind first showed up, and even if man can create life, he uses common sense to do it, while the nature cant.
2) yes, it is quite known that situation that man can turn to "god", i know there are a few laws that are based on that fact, while trying to prevent it, such as not to be able to clone humans in many countries around the world.
3) well i will check about the bible later, with the original language it was written (knowing Hebrew having some advantages from time to time), i didn't made it up that theory that god and science can walk together, so i am pretty sure i can find something like that there.

Religion (God) and Science cannot go together. Even in the new testamant, with the ressurection of Christ, and we know people cannot be ressurected. Life in itself is a very flawed and very unstable thing, look at it like this:

Two people decide to build towers from blocks. One person just places the blocks randomly one on top of the other (Evolution Theory) and the other uses complex mathermatical theories, planning, and careful implementation (Creationism [God] Theory)

Both are able to create a tower, but the tower created at random will be unstable, and need an loads and loads of tweaks, adjustments and rebuilding. This sounds far more like evolution that the other option. If someone was going to create life, don't you think they would shape it the way the want it to work? We destroy other life, the planet, the environment and so on. We have incredible dependancy on things like water, oxygen an atmoshpere. In simple, we are entirely full of flaws and loopholes that even we, as simple being would remove if we could.

 

[Peart]

Building on that, if we were created by an intelligent being then why are there pointless, sometimes dangerous flaws in our bodies themselves?

Consider our blind spot. Why would God give us that? Why would he design a creature in his own image, and give him a pointless little imperfection that could only ever cause harm?

 

[mythonline]

1) i am not Christians, my religious is very different from it, we don't believe in the 2nd "part" of the bible. the bible, at least the old one, is not saying that the bible was all written by one man, it is known to be written by many ppls.
atomicide, maybe the Christianity believe that they cant, we believe it can, i am just not the right person to explain all of that, as i never really learned completely the subject.
peart, i don't' know how god think, what i know in the tower of bible, that the problem was that they wanted to build it to fight god, not that they built it.

 

[RedDragonX]

Why dont you just phone God and ask?

 

[kud125]

1) i am not Christians, my religious is very different from it, we don't believe in the 2nd "part" of the bible. the bible, at least the old one, is not saying that the bible was all written by one man, it is known to be written by many ppls.
atomicide, maybe the Christianity believe that they cant, we believe it can, i am just not the right person to explain all of that, as i never really learned completely the subject.
peart, i don't' know how god think, what i know in the tower of bible, that the problem was that they wanted to build it to fight god, not that they built it.

what happened to number 2?

 

[Atomicide]

what happened to number 2?

Basically, it means he's a Jew. Jewish people don't beleive that the new testament has occured.

 

[Damian]

Even if we did find another habitable planet, we would never
have the resources to reach it :fthrower:

 

[Pyraine]

This thread began as an extremely interesting thread, by about the third page you all started repeating yourselves.

I have come personally to the conclusion that there are several definitive attributes that apply to both strictly religious people and scientifically minded people.

For starters they are all so god damned ignorant. They are given a factor that disproves something they are taught and they simply disprove it with one of their own personal theories. Which unless you have studied the bible intently or have a PHD in science, is not actually worth anything.

Secondly, they are both beliefs, but the person who came up with these theories, what is to make these scientists anymore reliable than those who wrote the bible? To further my point, and yes, I am being pedantic, do you know these scientists personally? How do you know that they aren't lying to you? Have you conducted their experiments personally? Science is just as much a religion as christianity.

Science is your way of explaining things.
Christianity is their way of explaining things.

They are all, simply beliefs.

You're all morons to think that your way of thinking is the only way.

 

[Tass]

Thread killer

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