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Perebble

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Give TD a break for God's sake.

If he wants to help out on a low exp server, let him do it.
All of you that are saying he stopped progression, no, people gave up because someone advanced further than them and expected their work to be handed to them on a plate. That's pretty much where this community is now... sitting back and waiting for someone else to do all the work for them. It's why we're getting nowhere.
Honestly, I don't care for private Mir any more, because, well frankly, there's so many ****s that put other people down when they try to help the community.

Half the people in this thread need to sit down, shut up, and try to do what TD has done for the community.

And Bon, if you don't like the fact he's only interested in helping on low exp servers (what I see as less than x8), **** off and play something else.
 

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Why some people defend TD I do not know ...

Can you read???

CAN YOU READ????

Hes clearly stated multiple times that he doesnt have any intention of working on the files any longer ...

IE : Hes not doing **** for this community and would rather take the source code to his grave

All the people defending him must not have a CLUE on the principles that Open-Source projects rely on ...

YES , he can codes better then he fvcks ...
But NO... No he cannot create a decent server because his narrow mindedness only allows him to see the kind of server suitable for Him ... hence usercounts of 15 ...

And all these people saying Highrates ruin Mir ...

1 "Name" smashes everything that your arguement consists of :

MirRevenge -

The server that kept 2.3 alive ...

Now MiGHT is also starting to pick up speed ...

50usercount in 2 weeks-ish ... good stuff ...
 

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Why some people defend TD I do not know ...

Can you read???

CAN YOU READ????

Hes clearly stated multiple times that he doesnt have any intention of working on the files any longer ...

IE : Hes not doing **** for this community and would rather take the source code to his grave

All the people defending him must not have a CLUE on the principles that Open-Source projects rely on ...

YES , he can codes better then he fvcks ...
But NO... No he cannot create a decent server because his narrow mindedness only allows him to see the kind of server suitable for Him ... hence usercounts of 15 ...

And all these people saying Highrates ruin Mir ...

1 "Name" smashes everything that your arguement consists of :

MirRevenge -

The server that kept 2.3 alive ...

Now MiGHT is also starting to pick up speed ...

50usercount in 2 weeks-ish ... good stuff ...

Your forgeting about the biggest successful Mir Sever...

Euro Mir, Low Rate, very successful. Its successful because items on there have a meaning, SwordOfWarGod is a item you love, on a private server, its handed to everyone and everyone ends up with 1000 dc which ruins everything.

Stop being a fool, he's helped more than you have or ever will.

/Ash
 

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He actually does help though, if he didn't play the server there would be 1 less person. It isn't all about the people who make the servers, it's also about the players.

Some people happen to like High Rate servers, I for one will only play high rate because I enjoy them. Why is that such a problem? Yes lol SOWG might not be rare, but then you've got a "insert name here" weapon which has uber stats and is just as rare as a SOWG. The only difference between high rate and low rate is that you see "congratulations on your level up" alot more. Boss mobs are made harder so the stats kinda balance out.

Yes TD might of done alot more than any of us, but why does that suddenly give him the right to tell us what we should and shouldn't play? He's gladly updating RageZone, which may be a low rate server, but they also run a high rate server too therefore both the low rate and the high rate have access to the updates.
 

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Ritek said:
He actually does help though, if he didn't play the server there would be 1 less person. It isn't all about the people who make the servers, it's also about the players.
Oh no, one less person. Some servers don't go up for the public's enjoyment. Some are there for people's friends and family, just the public have the privilege to play. LOCMS comes to mind. That's probably the longest running server after P69, and it averages what? 3 players? If you're lucky.

One idiot that takes stuff for granted won't be missed.



Ritek said:
Yes TD might of done alot more than any of us, but why does that suddenly give him the right to tell us what we should and shouldn't play? He's gladly updating RageZone, which may be a low rate server, but they also run a high rate server too therefore both the low rate and the high rate have access to the updates.
Point out where TD said people shouldn't play high rate servers.
 

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Oh no, one less person. Some servers don't go up for the public's enjoyment. Some are there for people's friends and family, just the public have the privilege to play. LOCMS comes to mind. That's probably the longest running server after P69, and it averages what? 3 players? If you're lucky.

One idiot that takes stuff for granted won't be missed.

1 person less would soon turn into 2, 5, 10, 20....
If 3 family members want to play a server for fun thats upto them.

Point out where TD said people shouldn't play high rate servers.

He wont be updating the files for high rate servers, so all the low rater servers are going to have all nice new updated files while high rate servers get **** all, same old boring files JUST because TD doesn't like them thats just selfish imo.

No1 will want to play high rate servers, they will just get boring so people will either stop playing servers or get ****ed over and have no choice but to play low rate. Which is EXACTLY what TD wants.... no more high rate.

You need to take your head out of his arse and take a look at the big picture.
 

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if high rate servers want to have up to date source code, they could help to advance work on the unleashed project. but that would mean that they would have to be fairly dedicated to their project and not just trying to release a server in half a week like many do...

the big picture is that TD doesnt like HR servers thats his choice, its his coding and his time that he is putting in. you arent going to change his mind so you may as well stop complaining, if you think he is being unfair then accept that as a fact. moaning about it isnt going to help... so go do something pro-active and work with other files...
 

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the problem with all the low rate servers is theres nothing to drive you to level up but like td said if he can add new stuff that will make people want to level for it then it maybe worth a try .
 

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the problem with all the low rate servers is theres nothing to drive you to level up but like td said if he can add new stuff that will make people want to level for it then it maybe worth a try .

High rate servers have somethint to drive you to level?

-That being what? Level 200 on a server with the same armour as every other level 200 on that server because the hosts have had to make so many kits that they made them all the same.

-Low rate servers are more rewarding in when you level, its all about spells i find, thats why 1.4 has died as much as it has.

-Combine good feel of gameplay and up to date spells to euro mir and further, then you will have a winning combination. Along with a good host willing to put the effort in.

/Ash
 

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Ritek said:
1 person less would soon turn into 2, 5, 10, 20....
If 3 family members want to play a server for fun thats upto them.
That's not gonna happen. People have been playing private servers for 5 years now... "one" person comes and goes all the time, but there still seems to be around 500 people that play on European hosted private servers.



Ritek said:
He wont be updating the files for high rate servers, so all the low rater servers are going to have all nice new updated files while high rate servers get **** all, same old boring files JUST because TD doesn't like them thats just selfish imo.

No1 will want to play high rate servers, they will just get boring so people will either stop playing servers or get ****ed over and have no choice but to play low rate. Which is EXACTLY what TD wants.... no more high rate.

You need to take your head out of his arse and take a look at the big picture.
So in short, you can't show me where he stated people shouldn't play high rate servers, because he didn't.

People can still play high rate servers, nothing will change with them, just low rate servers will be better. Well, would, if you ****s stopped crying and let TD do what he wanted.

Sit down.
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Basically if td cant be bothered to do the same for high and low rate then he should do any of it as far as im concerned limiting it to low rate is hurting the community rather than helping it....flame away.
 

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tbh i couldnt give a flying **** what TD does to the files aslong as he does something and keeps them updated for servers out there that are allready using them.

He took the time to go on the svn and do the updates which the lomcn team didnt(did but gave up updating) the man deserves a pat on the back not a slagging off for what hes doing to the files.
You people seem to think he owes us something well he doesnt , hes made the files as good as euro files but still a bit bugged here and there but we can live with that .
TD if you read this just do what you want to the files you allready have anyway so why not just continue to do so and if in the future you decide to release and sources then good but untill then feel free to do what you want but keep us in the loop if you do release anything extra .
 

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I personally think like I've said before in the thread that it should be made for the whole community not just the selected few.
But really, us saying this isn't going to change his mind and just any updates to the files are great.
 

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tbh i couldnt give a flying **** what TD does to the files aslong as he does something and keeps them updated for servers out there that are allready using them.

He took the time to go on the svn and do the updates which the lomcn team didnt(did but gave up updating) the man deserves a pat on the back not a slagging off for what hes doing to the files.
You people seem to think he owes us something well he doesnt , hes made the files as good as euro files but still a bit bugged here and there but we can live with that .
TD if you read this just do what you want to the files you allready have anyway so why not just continue to do so and if in the future you decide to release and sources then good but untill then feel free to do what you want but keep us in the loop if you do release anything extra .

Totally disagree, Just because he doesnt like hr doesnt give him the right to make them go without while the lr get all the benefits, he may have done a lot to the files but to issue this sort of "proposal" is just retarded.
 

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Totally disagree, Just because he doesnt like hr doesnt give him the right to make them go without while the lr get all the benefits, he may have done a lot to the files but to issue this sort of "proposal" is just retarded.
Do you understand what he's even doing?
It's not like he's personally gonna make any high rate server worse than it already is.
He's going to make low rate servers better than they are.

Your high rate crap will still be there so stop crying and let him do what he wants already.
 

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Do you understand what he's even doing?
It's not like he's personally gonna make any high rate server worse than it already is.
He's going to make low rate servers better than they are.

Your high rate crap will still be there so stop crying and let him do what he wants already.

Go flame someone who cares, the fact is low are as good as high rate if there made properly, the fact of the matter is the only problem of high rate is there not reliable so mt view still stands he should not bother doing any if hes going to not give hr the benefits lr will get.
 

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Go flame someone who cares, the fact is low are as good as high rate if there made properly, the fact of the matter is the only problem of high rate is there not reliable so mt view still stands he should not bother doing any if hes going to not give hr the benefits lr will get.
My view is that you should keep your views to yourself before you make yourself look much more of an idiot. High rate servers are not reliable because the makers don't give two ****s in maintaining it.
 
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