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its a shame most of the wizzies have already quit/rerolled.. I gave up at 32 on my wiz, could already tell they was nerfed bad.. FC hitting 30's is a joke and shield lasting 2-3 hits. lol.
just a though but your basing shield at level 1?
 

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Wizzys look like they got it easy in PB in you ask me.
How so? I've tried PB and it's not as easy as you think due to CrossBowOmas and WingedOmas being a pain!

If we're missing something please enlighten us lol :P
 
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TheMasterGee

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How so? I've tried PB and it's not as easy as you think due to CrossBowOmas and WingedOmas being a pain!

If we're missing something please enlighten us lol :P
Yes ranged omas >.<

I thought shield was always a 2/3 hit thing, like each hit takes an amount of time off. I know other servers played with it of course to get it close to god mode.
 

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Bump!

A response from BabyHack or someone from the team would be great, just for some reassurance that Wizards are being looked at, thanks :)
 

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I am still looking into it.
The problem with stuff like this is that if you change one thing you unbalance the other.
I have been testing a few things on my local server.

BH
 

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I am still looking into it.
The problem with stuff like this is that if you change one thing you unbalance the other.
I have been testing a few things on my local server.

BH

Good to know, thanks for the response! :)
 

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I am still looking into it.
The problem with stuff like this is that if you change one thing you unbalance the other.
I have been testing a few things on my local server.

BH

the problem is if you dont change wizzies very soon then you get people not playing the class at all.

you could give flame disruptor 150 damage right now for a wiz with 30 mc... do you know how much that would unbalance it towards archers/warrs/taos? it wouldnt. you dont have to do anything drastic. but you need to do something asap. because theyre absolutely totally broken.

they should be a priority. then you can sort it so that bosses are worth killing again instead of changing normal mob drops so theyre better than half the bosses in the game.
 

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was testing spells and damage and Fireball hit harder than FD,FC,Vamp, Icestorm i'm sure that the first spell you get in-game should NOT be more powerful than these.

im going to hit 40 then re-roll because. tbh were is the point? feel free to try and get me to change my mind, no really I welcome it!
 

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I am still looking into it.
The problem with stuff like this is that if you change one thing you unbalance the other.
I have been testing a few things on my local server.

BH

No one is asking for wizards to be "buffed" up like you have for other classes.

We would just be happy for them to be as they are meant to be. On this server they are so weak.
 

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Least BH has said he is looking I to it :), be interesting to no what he's gonna do to wizz, last class to be "buffed" lol
Warr - constant tdb
Tao - deva aim
Archer - hp buff
Ass - think they had a hp buff early server?
 

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Now i've gotten to a level where for me fighting should be more a part of the game, unless in a group its no fun, theres no element of chance or skill for a wizard, sure i can survive a long time but i have no real chance of winning against any class other than another wiz.

i hardly play now because of how weak the wizes are and i dont have the time or the want to re roll as another class
 

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like many others - cba with how bad wiz are here
weak spells, no ff drops, poor mc tiers in circulation.

had months to make a change but still nothing.
i expect this weekend will be another heavy user count dent

re rolled archer to 30 but really cba - the goals dont feel worth the grind now i have invested so much time in to wiz already.

maybe your 'testing crack team' are responsible for this? certainly posted my thoughts on letting everyone test, and certainly posted my thoughts for wizard changes. seems to fall on deaf ears which i suppose is better than having some hissy fit 'dev' bawling his eyes out over minor criticisms.

feels like the staff have given up on it a bit?
 

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like many others - cba with how bad wiz are here
weak spells, no ff drops, poor mc tiers in circulation.

had months to make a change but still nothing.
i expect this weekend will be another heavy user count dent

re rolled archer to 30 but really cba - the goals dont feel worth the grind now i have invested so much time in to wiz already.

maybe your 'testing crack team' are responsible for this? certainly posted my thoughts on letting everyone test, and certainly posted my thoughts for wizard changes. seems to fall on deaf ears which i suppose is better than having some hissy fit 'dev' bawling his eyes out over minor criticisms.

feels like the staff have given up on it a bit?

Have you not been around and reading all the changes I have been working on, including looking into wizards.
The team is far from not interested and if anything have been working harder on stuff since I have been pushing them

The problem is changing a whole class is not something that can be done straight away, its takes time, it takes balance, it takes testing (I was not around for the old tests)
It is being worked on, I have not left my laptop since 7am this morning and have been solid work on the server, as has Sam

BH
 

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Glad to hear and see that things are happening. But please remember that wizards until this server are the class everyone wanted to play because they just walked all over everyone else except maybe a good high level high sc tao. No one ever dared to shaft them until here. So please dont make them the same as they used to be.

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We would just be happy for them to be as they are meant to be. On this server they are so weak.

How do you know how they were meant to be? There was no balancing ever on euro it was almost a p server. Only way you could know how they are "meant to be" is to have played chinese/korean server. We heard rumours that wiz had been toned down even then. The Korean stats redmoonsword and ff much weaker and other wiz spells reduced also.
 

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Have you not been around and reading all the changes I have been working on, including looking into wizards.
The team is far from not interested and if anything have been working harder on stuff since I have been pushing them

The problem is changing a whole class is not something that can be done straight away, its takes time, it takes balance, it takes testing (I was not around for the old tests)
It is being worked on, I have not left my laptop since 7am this morning and have been solid work on the server, as has Sam

BH

i have read probably 50% of things on here over the past month or so (down from about 90%), and can see you have been keeping people informed and majorly reworking the drop files - which is a good thing - and encourages me to log in to play. once i have logged in the wiz feels the same though.

of course changes need time and testing, but i was mostly suggesting a reduction in mp cost of spells - to hunt longer - and make places like lostship/bdd places to sink 1+ hour in to with a decent sized group lvling / clearing to krs.

like many others i will keep an eye on things and be keen to play once it seems appealing again. it does have long term potential still because of the way it is being run i might add
 

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Glad to hear and see that things are happening. But please remember that wizards until this server are the class everyone wanted to play because they just walked all over everyone else except maybe a good high level high sc tao. No one ever dared to shaft them until here. So please dont make them the same as they used to be.

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How do you know how they were meant to be? There was no balancing ever on euro it was almost a p server. Only way you could know how they are "meant to be" is to have played chinese/korean server. We heard rumours that wiz had been toned down even then. The Korean stats redmoonsword and ff much weaker and other wiz spells reduced also.

Wizards were and never will be OP because they can always be floored easily 1/2 hit they supposed to be glass cannons huge damage but very high risk due to having the LOWEST HP OF ALL CLASSES. On this server they are more like a glass water pistol firing weak bursts just annoying ppl ignore it cos its so so easily potable with normal HP pots which by the way regen way way too fast, u would need to buff spell like flame disruptor at least Double its damage to even not have ppl outpot it...
 

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you guys realy need to give up trying to convince them to change or fix wizzies, sam wants you to tame pets and t bolt if you want to solo! he wants every spell you have to use 80mp+ for crap damage!

archer skills are too much the same as wizzies spells for them to be buffed since archers have to have the higher single hit damage! fire shot will have to do more then flame disrupt since archers are the single target dps

i said in beta wizzies will be broken! they still havnt done a thing to change them since the rest of you caught up and noticed they are broken on here, they wont do a thing to fix them and i dont think he knows how to with archers ingame and being so close to them! he wont change cast speed or AOE mp usage and i doubt he will change the damage! talking him into upping lightning damage was hard enough (your welcome i got you wizzies one OP spell :P )


i refused to play a broken class ages ago! you wizzies need to reroll and not settle for playing a broken class because you love the class! they dont care!

Delete wizzards from the server and let wizzies choose a new class to be! will we notice wizards not being around anymore? doubt it since they dont have much use anymore :P

/Pandoria
 

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you guys realy need to give up trying to convince them to change or fix wizzies, sam wants you to tame pets and t bolt if you want to solo! He wants every spell you have to use 80mp+ for crap damage!

Archer skills are too much the same as wizzies spells for them to be buffed since archers have to have the higher single hit damage! Fire shot will have to do more then flame disrupt since archers are the single target dps

i said in beta wizzies will be broken! They still havnt done a thing to change them since the rest of you caught up and noticed they are broken on here, they wont do a thing to fix them and i dont think he knows how to with archers ingame and being so close to them! He wont change cast speed or aoe mp usage and i doubt he will change the damage! Talking him into upping lightning damage was hard enough (your welcome i got you wizzies one op spell :p )


i refused to play a broken class ages ago! You wizzies need to reroll and not settle for playing a broken class because you love the class! They dont care!

Delete wizzards from the server and let wizzies choose a new class to be! Will we notice wizards not being around anymore? Doubt it since they dont have much use anymore :p

/pandoria

pan for gm!!
 

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in the top 25 of server... over 9 are wizzards.. every single server you play wizzards always level the fastest iv not seen 1 decent wizz pvp on any server bar xele dont think iv seen her moan about wizzys as she hits 200+ with lighting and the new buff on frost crunsh Evilwoman hits 133+ with it..