Archer nerfed or not?

[Xx69xX]

Only AB was adjusted and this caused a bug across some of the others spells, this is what I am trying to fix.
The way Archer spells work was tweaked and I am just trying to balance them out.

Its a bug but not a bug if that makes sense

BH

Fair enough, but my AB is weaker than my 38 spells still, so if this is what ur aim was, then ur done, FireShot is now ok. Still weaker, but actually able to do some sort of damage.

Ab is hitting less than most of my FS, so the 38spell is better than the 40 spell.

Can you please make sure that FlameField at level 2 is weaker than flamedisruptor

Thanks

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this patch is the greatest patch ever! ive totaly changed my mind about it!!

tears of archers are so sweet! leave archers as they are!

wizzies have done like 3 months of crying with no decent changes! let archers wait a few months :P

if anything gets reverted i think its fair wizzies get revert back to the AceM2 standards! aswell

/Pandoria

Main crys are about AB (the rest of the crys were because it was a"bug" so ofc we let him know our frustration)

When a wizz has FF they have a right to pipe up, until then imo its not worth the conversation

 

[Kalamonde]

lol such a cry baby!

AB hits 3 times and causes 3 flinches! you expect too much!

You cant 1 hit people any more so stop crying because you have to fall back on having to use more then one spell to kill sombody!

Running around screaming untill AB recharges then you can do an EPIC one shot kill shouldnt be the way to pvp! its like archers suddenly got a ****ing head shot on sombody!

if your any decent on a archer and have some idea of what your on about you would accept this change needed to be done! and im also sure the damage maybe upped at some point! stop crying so much jesus!

and next time can you please make sure there are tissues on hand ready for the next archer nerf?

/Pandoria

 

[Nizzles]

never a truer word spoken

unfortunately when you give an actual thought out reply it gets ignored. maybe i should have just whinged like all the other people who are getting a GM response.

useless sometimes. i really wonder why i even bother.

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Nothing has been changed since then, so this is very very odd.
Might be something to do with the defense on Orc monsters

BH

it was clearly nothing to do with that. reset the archers to how they were ASAP before you lose more people. and sort out the bug on ur test server before changing AB on the one that everyone was playing quite happily maybe?

 

[Carribean]

unfortunately when you give an actual thought out reply it gets ignored. maybe i should have just whinged like all the other people who are getting a GM response.

useless sometimes. i really wonder why i even bother.

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it was clearly nothing to do with that. reset the archers to how they were ASAP before you lose more people. and sort out the bug on ur test server before changing AB on the one that everyone was playing quite happily maybe?

sadly its the way the cookie crumbles, they havent taken into account one thing u said in your post, this server is just nerf after nerf because of the criers, never actually thought out at all. they need to take a look back at the class descriptions

 

[Nizzles]

Ok thank you for info, I will get onto it



I have his kit on my GM
I have been spending most of the evening fixing this.
Thanks to the help of some players.

BH

why you are adjusting skills according to one persons kit is retarded.
like i said in my post which you havent even bothered reading... if a warrior had a sowg and the same dc items as the archer he would do unbelievable damage and would be getting moaned at. so would you adjust the entire class based on the ridiculous DC of one player?

its like Xele commenting on how wizards werent that broken when he had something stupid like 100 mc and totally unattainable items for the average player.

and its like people saying omg sins are fine - going off one example of a sin with luck 7 fateblades and mental dc.

or like me complaining that dommino with his outrageously gemmed kit was doing 80-100 dmg with soulfireballs + the 50 from his deva + 30 or so from his shinsu and havving to pretty much spam sunpots... the fact i couldnt get away or start running because of his deva and shinsu. (i dont expect you to change anything with the class but its the same damn thing youve done to archers. people moan so youve changed them)

the whole mentality of how things are being changed is just ridiculous.

archer with 60 dc struggling to hit 300 with AB lvl 1 before nerf ... with lvl 2 and twice the dc i should think they would hit at least twice the amount. and with the cooldown and fact that it can be avoided with MR i dont see the big deal? and if it does need a nerf it should be only slight. but first... it should be put back to how it was until you have figured out how to get rid of the bug. not have the complete archer population completely screwed until you sort it.

is it just me that thinks this?!

 

[Xx69xX]

People who are telling us AB is fine now are just silly.

I just hit mobs in Orcs with an AB 11/2/2 thats a total of 15..

But it was only "slightly" nerfed in pve? lol. i was averagly hitting like 30/10/10 so 50, is my average hit on a spell that takes time to cast(in terms of not being able to hit straight after like you can with a FS) and has a cooldown. Awsome and is level 40 spell.

I for one am 100% out after seeing that 11/2/2 cant hit a fireshot with less than that, but 3 fireshots are less, makes sense. trolol

C yas All.

 

[Trokanda]

why you are adjusting skills according to one persons kit is retarded.
like i said in my post which you havent even bothered reading... if a warrior had a sowg and the same dc items as the archer he would do unbelievable damage and would be getting moaned at. so would you adjust the entire class based on the ridiculous DC of one player?

its like Xele commenting on how wizards werent that broken when he had something stupid like 100 mc and totally unattainable items for the average player.

and its like people saying omg sins are fine - going off one example of a sin with luck 7 fateblades and mental dc.

or like me complaining that dommino with his outrageously gemmed kit was doing 80-100 dmg with soulfireballs + the 50 from his deva + 30 or so from his shinsu and havving to pretty much spam sunpots... the fact i couldnt get away or start running because of his deva and shinsu. (i dont expect you to change anything with the class but its the same damn thing youve done to archers. people moan so youve changed them)

the whole mentality of how things are being changed is just ridiculous.

archer with 60 dc struggling to hit 300 with AB lvl 1 before nerf ... with lvl 2 and twice the dc i should think they would hit at least twice the amount. and with the cooldown and fact that it can be avoided with MR i dont see the big deal? and if it does need a nerf it should be only slight. but first... it should be put back to how it was until you have figured out how to get rid of the bug. not have the complete archer population completely screwed until you sort it.

is it just me that thinks this?!

Don't waste your time mate, they won't admit that they did a mistake with that nerf, so they rather ignor posts like yours, similar to the "drops issue" with the ninja nerfs.

archers can't do fk all appart from StaticShot, so they sort of destroyed that class. they obviously struggle already by tweaking all the other spells back to what they used to.

oh yeah, almost got 1 hitted by a war few days ago (left me with less than 100 HP), lvl 42 archer, that war had a mace (couldn't see more as i had to RT straight away)...i probably only survived coz archers are so OP...

 

[Nizzles]

don't waste your time mate, they won't admit that they did a mistake with that nerf, so they rather ignor posts like yours, similar to the "drops issue" with the ninja nerfs.

Archers can't do fk all appart from staticshot, so they sort of destroyed that class. They obviously struggle already by tweaking all the other spells back to what they used to.

Oh yeah, almost got 1 hitted by a war few days ago (left me with less than 100 hp), lvl 42 archer, that war had a mace (couldn't see more as i had to rt straight away)...i probably only survived coz archers are so op...

nerf warriors

 

[Carribean]

Don't waste your time mate, they won't admit that they did a mistake with that nerf, so they rather ignor posts like yours, similar to the "drops issue" with the ninja nerfs.

archers can't do fk all appart from StaticShot, so they sort of destroyed that class. they obviously struggle already by tweaking all the other spells back to what they used to.

oh yeah, almost got 1 hitted by a war few days ago (left me with less than 100 HP), lvl 42 archer, that war had a mace (couldn't see more as i had to RT straight away)...i probably only survived coz archers are so OP...

archer and the hp boost was another stupid idea, it was only the dog **** archers that were whining for more

 

[Koriban]

archer and the hp boost was another stupid idea, it was only the dog **** archers that were whining for more

I agree the archer HP buff was unneeded.

Reverting the hp buff and the nerfs to AB but say, doubling AB's cooldown might be a legitimate alternative.

 

[rayray]

I agree the archer HP buff was unneeded.

Reverting the hp buff and the nerfs to AB but say, doubling AB's cooldown might be a legitimate alternative.

kingtony hit me earlier for 150 with AB ... its lvl 2, so lvl 3 will hit for 200hp ? whats wrong with that... i dno about pve but 200hp from 1 skill is strong enough, sin doesnt land hits like that, neither does a warr ..

also means soon as theres 2 archers on screen both land a fireshot then Ab = death ( for any class other than warr )

 

[suicidal]

It's been a day lol you guys gotta relax and give the Gms time to listen to the problem and fix it. Calm down it's not the end of the world

 

[MrBump]

Seems to me all spells have had a nerf, spirit shot is dealing less damage now than before reboot.

Reason people get pissed off, you said you'll be changing AB fair enough but you've change other archer spells and said **** all about it.

RESULT EVERY ARCHER RE-ROLLS or QUITS WELL DONE TEAM!

Exactly this.

 

[Kalamonde]

Whats wrong with having nothing to compare it with??? Make it your own class... no 1 wants you to 'compare' with anything. Just want you to make it a class worth playing.

I also have another point/question. Why is it ok for a Melee class to be able to 1 hit people but a ranged not? (even though ONLY Tash can 1 hit Low geard Sins/Wizz with shield down) A Warrior with a SOWG will one hit loads of people.

Also my Feedback is totally Mature and acceptable comments. I play 3 classes, When sins got nerfed, I BARELY said anything, as I can solo bosses just cant pk warriors at all. So theres still positivity. An Archer with Amazing gear cant solo decent bosses, now they wont be able to pk much either.

Lets put it another way. On this server, Its easy to make gold, which makes life easy to have full bags of pots etc. Meaning that when I run into an archer on my Sin (with crappy health pool) I know im gunna survive, because im gunna be able to pot through it. Lowering AB only strengthens that comment.

KingTony has far less DC and 1 shot a warrior with 767 hp and no poison etc. etc. You, sir, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, spouting utter BULLSHIT and typing it in CAPS so people think they are FACTS and FIGURES.

Please ignore this user as he evidently has no utter clue about anything, people like you who **** up servers like this in the first place.

/Nyx

 

[Aluvian]

Exactly this.

Read the ****ing thread it's been said numerous times the other changes were not intentional and are being fixed at the moment

 

[Xena25]

Has spiritshot been sorted yet?

 

[ILovePie:D]

KingTony has far less DC and 1 shot a warrior with 767 hp and no poison etc. etc. You, sir, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, spouting utter BULLSHIT and typing it in CAPS so people think they are FACTS and FIGURES.

Please ignore this user as he evidently has no utter clue about anything, people like you who **** up servers like this in the first place.

/Nyx

KingTony couldnt 1 shot a warrior with 767HP. Don't talk crap.

Don't make comments unless you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Xx69xX]

KingTony has far less DC and 1 shot a warrior with 767 hp and no poison etc. etc. You, sir, have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, spouting utter BULLSHIT and typing it in CAPS so people think they are FACTS and FIGURES.

Please ignore this user as he evidently has no utter clue about anything, people like you who **** up servers like this in the first place.

/Nyx

Yea sure, cool story bro. I have the same dc as tony, and you know what iv been lying, I can kill EM in 1 hit with AB too and also I killed GMbabyhack on god mode with AB.

You just wasted 25 minutes thinking of a come back only for everyone who read it, to either ignore it, or have a little chuckle. When your ready come back with a reply that maybe people can take on bored for some positive feedback, but until you are able to see how terrible AB is, don't talk, k thanks.

 

[Carribean]

I agree the archer HP buff was unneeded.

Reverting the hp buff and the nerfs to AB but say, doubling AB's cooldown might be a legitimate alternative.

i completely agree about reverting the HP and AB but double the cool down? that would make the spell pretty crap mate it already had a reasonable cool down

 

[Kalamonde]

KingTony couldnt 1 shot a warrior with 767HP. Don't talk crap.

Don't make comments unless you have a clue what you're talking about.

I know exactly what I'm talking about as I was the 767 HP warrior; hence the nerf. I am commenting BECAUSE I have a clue. Who are you anyway, do you even play?

/Nyx

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Yea sure, cool story bro. I have the same dc as tony, and you know what iv been lying, I can kill EM in 1 hit with AB too and also I killed GMbabyhack on god mode with AB.

You just wasted 25 minutes thinking of a come back only for everyone who read it, to either ignore it, or have a little chuckle. When your ready come back with a reply that maybe people can take on bored for some positive feedback, but until you are able to see how terrible AB is, don't talk, k thanks.

like AB wasnt terrible when it was OP! stop crying!

and who said anything about EM or a GM ?

you got too used to it being over powered, Sins didnt like the flash dash change but now they have had time to get used to it! are they crying still? NAY!

sure other skills will be sorted in time aswell!

/Pandoria