assassin vs the rest, pls read sam .

[rayray]

this thread its an honest outlook of pvp on server. and maybe it can help to improve it .

if need be i can post fraps vid's sam.

assassin vs archer = 80% win for assassin aslong as u can catch him. ( yeh theres a speed cap and it works some-what. but there is and always will be ppl a little faster or slower than others )

assassin vs tao = town fight = 100% win for tao due to skeley speed (they move to fast sam cant stress this enough.) / cave fight = 50/50 aslong as u can get a lure for skeleys u stand a fair chance.

assassin vs wiz = (this fight is a waste of time) a long boring fight. wiz with shield lvled u might aswel beat them with a loaf of bread... maybe it will do more damage. wiz damage isnt great atm but it never is once wiz gets FF this fight gona be 100% to wiz. atm its fc spam run run run bored run run run really bored.. then som1 runs outa pots.
( HAVE NOT PVP'D A WIZ SINCE LIGHTNING CHANGES BUT FROM WHAT IVE HEARD LIGHTNING IS DOIN AWESOME DAMAGE) so this is mayb now another class we can get slapped about by- and for the ppl sayin lightning is hard to land...just lol.. a sin steps into grp pvp attacks a tao wiz runs up beside him spam lightning ...thats not hard..)


assassin vs warrior - b4 we get into this i'd like to explain how bad a sin's defence is incomparsion... lvl 40 warrior was 700hp sin has 310 hp so thats less than 50% on top of that lvl 40 sin has 18 ac whilst warrior has 33ac (without any ac items) so technically a sin has 20-25% of a warriors defence.. now to damage... ( if are defence is 25% then surely are dps should be alot higher than there's )

flash dash - hits for 1-10 hp per hit also can take 1 shot to yellow psn or in worst case scenrio it can take up to 15 attempt's which is a joke. with a warrior yellow psned (duration 3-4 seconds max) a sin hits average for 50hp per hit on war ... so u got to land 14 hits in 3 seconds + thats not including the hp they are regening from pots)

also with flash dash doing 1-10 dps when u attempt to land it 50% of the time u will hit with tdb taking the guts of 1/3 of ur hp)

at the min 3 hits from a 40 war and a 40 sin is on his knee's(if u get yellow psned on first hit ur on ur back after the 3rd hit), also yellow psn effect works more from tdb a high dps spell that it does from flash dash...which most definately is not a dps spell.

the main problem is a warrior's tank abilty + the burst damage.. also with the way u have changed pvp it just makes a sins job harder again.

assassin vs warrior = 100% win for warrior.

any constructive comments regarding pvp on any class would be good.

flamer's fo :lol

 

[daneo1989]

Yes assassins are weak in defence but there main attacks are given at such low level.. I was fighting against a lv25+ Assassin against my level28 warrior he was flooring me in 2-4hits

 

[thereds77]

Don't pvp

 

[d1craig]

The higher level skills should make this more even. It was said from the start that sin would be weak and warrior would walk all over them at higher levels.

Dont sin sin have sneak up and crit skills. Warrior has exactly what he is using ATM lol

 

[Adv]

But assassins excel beyond all classes in PvE.

Assassins have an exclusive boss atm, in OmaKing.

You cant have it all.

x

 

[Dorf]

look sins walked away while lvling, and boss killing I might add, unfortunately drop rates so low it's not been reflected in the kits, now warrs are up to speed, expect sins to be hammered, exactly the way it was going to happen from the start, you guys have been doing near the dps of a lvl40 warrior since 2nd week of server, now people have caught up you going to cry? Well them tears taste very sweet my love, warrior to 32 is such an absolute arse to lvl, and meanwhile you see a sin at 22 caining mobs right next to you, killing 3 or 4 in the time it takes you to kill one.. all's fair in love and war..

 

[Koriban]

A lot of false information here.

Yellowpois a warr with flashdash and start doubleslashing him (assuming your kit's not **** and equal levels) he'll be forced to use sunnies.

Problem is sins thinking then can toe to toe warriors without first making them go yellow.

You do the most dps in the game by far. You're the single best boss class killer in-game. Your utility skills later on are INSANE. Swiftfeet = free MirBoots for 30secs? Geomanip... clone...

honestly. Nothing to complain about. Keep playing and wait it out - but don't expect to suddenly beat a warr in a pvp when you've levelled at 5x the pace of them for the past month of the server and they're now catching up.

 

[rayray]

Don't pvp

ok so example...im killing izt solo, a war comes in to do the same , im therefore expected to tt because a sin is more or less defenceless vs a war ? its no understatement to say that the warrior will win that fight hands down everytime.

The higher level skills should make this more even. It was said from the start that sin would be weak and warrior would walk all over them at higher levels.

so thats just how u think it should be? a sin losing to a war not because the war is a more skilled player but because there class should walk over another class that is equally lvled and kited? i guess that makes sense......if ur ****in crazy.

Dont sin sin have sneak up and crit skills. Warrior has exactly what he is using ATM lol

if a warrior isn't flash dashed he can currently outpot sin's damage @ lvl 40, with flash dash he cant out pot damage but can easily take 15 hits, in which time flash dash has long worn off...if thats what u mean by a crit spell... there is no sneak as far as ive been told just moonlight = tao hide effect, war has alot more hp to look forward to and rage and profield and as this is new server id imagine there'll b a little somthing else for them. counter attack maybe.

But assassins excel beyond all classes in PvE.
now, dont get carried away there abit better than war's for boss but still need a tao...war can solo ks easily while a sin is using 20 suns or more, yes they can kill abit faster but god damn, they have alot more trouble doing it .

Assassins have an exclusive boss atm, in OmaKing.
well thats just a pile off crap if i ever heard it. 2 sin + 1 tao is the grp kills this boss mostly because its most efficent ... not because 2 war's and a tao cant do.. they can do it easily but they dont.

You cant have it all.

x

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A lot of false information here.*<<<<<<<***<**<
only false information here is this comment above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yellowpois a warr with flashdash and start doubleslashing him (assuming your kit's not **** and equal levels) he'll be forced to use sunnies.

Problem is sins thinking then can toe to toe warriors without first making them go yellow.
yo say without turning them yellow... even if the warrior is yellow that sin will be hauling ass gettin away from the warrior in 3 hits max where as the warrior can take 14 hits EASILY while yellow psn without any ac kit b4 he has to sunnie, not to mention that yellow psn has long worn off...

You do the most dps in the game by far. You're the single best boss class killer in-game. Your utility skills later on are INSANE. Swiftfeet = free MirBoots for 30secs? Geomanip... clone...

the spells are all sweet and dandey , but when warrior has rage? he will deal more damage ... also profield he will take less damage also if counter attack is in he will also reflect damage- basicly if a sin looks at a war he's dead.

 

[deano13]

This is hilarious... Sins are always going to spanked by a warrior end of story. Yes lower lvls sins out dmg/lvl wars, once 32+ there's no chance at all a sin can beat war. Unless the war is complete and utter ****.

 

[neptuneshaun]

this is another PvP question being asked (from what iv read). Warriors are tanks and can take damage and at higher level can give damage. Sins have low health due to being able to hit quicker with less requirements as most comes from the skills you have and the skills you develop as a player. Wiz PvE is the same. you need to think PvE more than PvP as that is what the games intended for.

 

[rayray]

This is hilarious... Sins are always going to spanked by a warrior end of story. Yes lower lvls sins out dmg/lvl wars, once 32+ there's no chance at all a sin can beat war. Unless the war is complete and utter ****.

this is whats happening currenty .... why should it stay that way? since when does mir have a class that beats another class 100% of the time..........



@neptun - thats fair enough to say about a wiz until lvl 42 there more of a support class for pvp than dps, but once ff is obtained there instantly beast.

a sin has no option but to be a dps class as it has basicly no defence or hp thing is it has **** dps atm if a warrior can outpot damage from a sin same lvl and same kit then that shits just wrong. no to ways about it . yes with flashdash the damage is upped but its only upped to the extent that the warrior cant take 20hits without sun poting- he's still gona drop u in 3 hit n laugh about how fail u are.

 

[CableDude]

I have seen sins under level 33 make level 40+ warriors RT in dungeons, they do good damage but they can't go head to head with a warrior in a hold shift battle. Use the mobs, use your hide skill and you might have more success against warriors.

If you think a warrior can outpot a sins damage then you don't know what you are talking about. A warrior might be able to turn around and smash the sin before the warrior dies but if you are slow, a couple seconds is all it takes.

 

[rayray]

I have seen sins under level 33 make level 40+ warriors RT in dungeons, they do good damage but they can't go head to head with a warrior in a hold shift battle. Use the mobs, use your hide skill and you might have more success against warriors.

i dont what **** u been smoke bro but thats some serious **** ur talking

If you think a warrior can outpot a sins damage then you don't know what you are talking about. A warrior might be able to turn around and smash the sin before the warrior dies but if you are slow, a couple seconds is all it takes.

i dno what im talking about ? sure. so earlier on i took a 40 war from guild to contest room. without useing flash dash he is able to outpot my damage mayb not permnately but for atleast 35hits which is 70 hits if u count double slash. with flash dash he can take 15 hits b4 he has to move or sunny, got to take into account dash is instant escape .

 

[stagg]

xD im a sin only reason i made a sin was i thought u got the skill from euro (repuls spell) yea sins get fire burst but it dont even do -1 hp even wizz repuls dose a few -
so annoying 1bye 1 on mobs taos have pets wars have 1/2moon (dunno about dsurge) wizz well .. they wizz as for pvp after i was lev 33 n got owned bye a 19to i gave up lol .. run up to warr's and just start hacking like he a chessnut tree archers kill b4 even on screen and tbh not come up against a wizz xD

 

[Samuel]

Increased light body agility...

We did some pvp tests and the extra agil gives sins a good chance pvp with a warrior... This plus swift feet is a deadly combo.

Sam

 

[Ezrolith]

Increased light body agility...

We did some pvp tests and the extra agil gives sins a good chance pvp with a warrior... This plus swift feet is a deadly combo.

Sam

 

[TheDayIDie]

How come you increase assassin's tank ability but decrease every other classes ability to dps?

This seems to me biased, assassin I think were a fairly balanced class. An assassin is not about toe to toe dps. They are about stealthing about and picking off people / mobs 1v1 by surprise (hence the high dps and stealth).

 

[rayray]

How come you increase assassin's tank ability but decrease every other classes ability to dps?

This seems to me biased, assassin I think were a fairly balanced class. An assassin is not about toe to toe dps. They are about stealthing about and picking off people / mobs 1v1 by surprise (hence the high dps and stealth).

what is this Stealth you speak off O_o ... is none on here

 

[Blizzard]

Sins don't get to go completely invisible as the spell is intended so you don't think they should balance that with something else? It seems if enough people spit their dummy out stuff gets done.

 

[reecew]

Sins don't get to go completely invisible as the spell is intended so you don't think they should balance that with something else? It seems if enough people spit their dummy out stuff gets done.

yes they do get a invisible spell its lvl 46 sin spell makes you invisible to players.

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