Craftable Skills

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Craftable Skill Books?

  • I like this idea

    Votes: 99 69.7%
  • I dislike this idea

    Votes: 43 30.3%

  • Total voters
    142

TheRealSphinx

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There has already been a poll about shop spells. people voted no.

This was a before drop rates changed currently and now the population is growing... (cause ppl wanted during the vote time rare dropsrates) reason for a repoll...
 

FaithKING69

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LMAO mostly i see TKO spamin "NOO ITS BAD IDEA"

Reason its simple. They geting all boses. They got h lvl skils.

They are scared i evry 1 get all skils cos get ass raped.

I hope this guild leave server if skill crafting get in game.

Im solo hunting all time and have 0 chance to get all skils i need.

Owning all skils shud be basic thing not fking somthing rare. Evry 1 shud enjoy char with full set of skils.
 

FTM

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LMAO mostly i see TKO spamin "NOO ITS BAD IDEA"

Reason its simple. They geting all boses. They got h lvl skils.

They are scared i evry 1 get all skils cos get ass raped.

I hope this guild leave server if skill crafting get in game.

Im solo hunting all time and have 0 chance to get all skils i need.

Owning all skils shud be basic thing not fking somthing rare. Evry 1 shud enjoy char with full set of skils.

im not TKO and also say no its a stupid idea just sort drops out. if they are that eager to get skills in make them drop more regular dont spoon feed people keep the game interesting.whats going to happen once everyone has all there skills lets craft items now because people are complaining that they dont have top end items weps ect ?
 

lancelot1

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im not TKO and also say no its a stupid idea just sort drops out. if they are that eager to get skills in make them drop more regular dont spoon feed people keep the game interesting.whats going to happen once everyone has all there skills lets craft items now because people are complaining that they dont have top end items weps ect ?
Who said anything about spoon feeding? He can make it 200 items from PSC, 200 from BDD, 1 from ScorpionKing, 1 from GhoulKing and 150 from PB for, say, Curse.
 

Turrican

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There has already been a poll about shop spells. people voted no.

Actually, 116 was in favour over 105 who wasn't, but at the time this wasn't a big enough gap to implement such a dramatic change.

but clearly the community is divided on what they want too see done with spells.
 

FaithKING69

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Spells are not same as items. Spells making game balanced in point skill. Items making ppls stronger if they hunt boses. So u want make ppls hunting boses 2x stronger than solo players?
 

lancelot1

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Spells are not same as items. Spells making game balanced in point skill. Items making ppls stronger if they hunt boses. So u want make ppls hunting boses 2x stronger than solo players?
Who are you responding to?
 

Vagrant

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Have the books drop more often but introduce the manual/translation system like mir3 had with books.

You pay a fee to translate the book so it can be used. adjust the rate of success to suit amount of players on server.

thats a good idea i always liked the skills system in mir3

I think change can be intimidating.
I don't think the possibility of crafting skills is such a bad idea.
And why shouldn't every Wiz have FF and every Tao have Curse? Would it be OP? If so, why isn't it OP when just 2% of the players have these spells?

I'd say go ahead, make the changes. There will be imbalances, but this server is a work in progress, the Team will make tweaks and try to head back towards a balance.<br>
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You can never please everyone. Some complain that the game is becoming stale and needs changing. Then suggestions like this come along and everyone shuns them before giving them a chance.<br>

All these different views of forum users are a bit mad and confusing for me to get my head around!<br>

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People always complain and some are happy when change comes, look at other games, loads of people dont agree and moan when teams make different decisions but at the end of the day people still play
Sam try posting this on Facebook page since it has more members and take a vote? Before anything like this should be added try asking as many people who play as possible.
Taking a vote is in politics, constructed posts and people's opinions it what matters, not votes....what if 3 guild leaders have 50 members each and guild leaders tell said members to all vote NO, that will just influence the server team....and tbh posts like yours, about why people shouldnt have skills would make me add this to game
Everyone with curse and flame field and arrow barrage will just kill the server and yes it's a personal opinions isn't what people want to know each other's opinion on the idea?<br>
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So your opinion is that only a few people can have access to skills and throw the spells your mentioning so they will be way OP than the rest? where is the fun in that?
because everyone uses lomcn? Cause 30 people out of 300 matters? Mir has always been about drops you wanna craft books of play another mmorpg<br>
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People want it too easy get a grp and camp a few bosses like Mir always has been?
Mir Chronicles has evolved more than any mir that i've ever seen and we both played loads of servers that had easy gain of books, and even on official servers people had access to most of the skills
Whether people have payed for skills already is an invalid point. Stuff will never be the same price tbh. Word of warcraft for example.. items are only good for a pretty short time until new ones come out so people get messed over by that all the time and it's fine. I don't think ti toeing over certain **rich** people should even be an issue. <br>
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I like this idea, because it gives poorer people a chance rather than the rich getting all they want and the poor getting nothing
lol people in wow dont get rich because of new items, i got 2mil gold on achievment and i didnt make it because of the new items that come with proffesions, the true gold you make by farming and selling materials, also comparing ecomy of wow that has 7,5m players with chronicles that has like 500 ? thats a really bad example
This is another aspect to me wanting people to have access to their skills... One we have put a lot of effort into many aspects of the game which arn't used...<br>
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The newer skills would make killing mobs easier, and killing mobs easier would see more hunts in places like JT/LS (in my opinion)...<br>
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Specially when we introduce new temples + new skills...<br>
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Sam
Well in my opinion (being a WoW player for 8 years now) everyone should experience the new skills,thats why you work hard to get x amonth of level to get access to new items and spells, and since of the new tech and new spells your putting in game people should have the option to build different combination of skills

P.S. Reply to quotes are not really in order i've been afk for a few hours and too many reply's :P, also for those who tried to read right away just corrected my post some wierd color error from forums :S
 
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Xx69xX

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I dont really think voting should be taken into consideration just feedback from the people should matter, but like my quote down to xx69xx, whats the point of having this new files,new tech, new spells if people dont use them ?Just so they will stay in the db and be in drop files with the chance of 1/1000000000 and i think im close to the correct chance since it isnt dropping...


So the spells exist in game for just 1-2 people to have ?Whats the point of having new tech and having new spells if they dont drop ?

im not quite sure how you have taken my opinion, but i tihnk you have understood it incorrectly.

My point is clear, and states that; if a big guild is getting all of the high end books dropping, they will not sell out of the guild, and i think this is FAIR play. They have very little reason to sell. They dont need gold, as the only function of high gold is to buy items. They kill the biggest bosses, so dont often need to buy items as they have them drop for them.

On the other hand i speak about how other players need to obtain these spells. and although im not the biggest fan of creating these spells, i think every one needs a chance to obtain them.

I wouldnt mind seeing other bosses drop high end spells

But ofc it would be a little silly seeing 42 spells drop from a WT often.

Most of all though, i do believe it important that these spells do not rush into the game and become junk. They still need to have high value, they just need to actually have a value. As it stands because only one guild seems to be getting them, they are still invaluable.
 
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Vagrant

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im not quite sure how you have taken my opinion, but i tihnk you have understood it incorrectly.

My point is clear, and states that; if a big guild is getting all of the high end books dropping, they will not sell out of the guild, and i think this is FAIR play. They have very little reason to sell. They dont need gold, as the only function of high gold is to buy items. They kill the biggest bosses, so dont often need to buy items as they have them drop for them.

On the other hand i speak about how other players need to obtain these spells. and although im not the biggest fan of creating these spells, i think every one needs a chance to obtain them.

I wouldnt mind seeing other bosses drop high end spells

But ofc it would be a little silly seeing 42 spells drop from a WT often.

Most of all though, i do believe it important that these spells do not rush into the game and become junk. They still need to have high value, they just need to actually have a value. As it stands because only one guild seems to be getting them, they are still invaluable.
Yes i know what you mean, they will keep the books in the guild because either one of them will make another character or give it to a guild friend so others will not have power over them
 

NewHope

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Remember the little guys!

Sam

Only the little guys are left.

I think it's a decent idea. W

hy not just implement OKS like euro Mir, have top tier books drop there and let the fights ensue.
 

Xpara

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worst idea yet, like guc said every tao with curse, every wizz with flamefield.. it's a bad idea, and i am one of the people who have payed out **** loads for my books and to craft them even if it wil be hard to craft them is a **** in my backgarden. Just cause lower tier players like the ones agreeing in this thread cause they don't hunt the big bosses to get the high tier spells, doesn't mean they should be craftable they should be lowered in rates and dropped a tad more often considering iv killed the bosses on this server over a hundy times and not got fk all to show for it.

Fck off you got banned for cheating, ya opinion on anything and everything is worthless. sit down like a good boy wag ya tail and try not to lick ya own balls.

Ya just another scrub mongrel howling at the moon.
 

Stoney

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This thread really saddens me as giving people access to all there skills and they are going to get bored. Skill book drops are one of the most important things about Mir, that rare skill book drop is better than any item you could wish to get. Being a Wizard I know what its like to not have my top skills I'm useless at the moment but it still doesn't mean I want to be given access to crafting my skills. Do this people will stop to hunt bosses and all become safezone warriors because thats all they have left todo. We all miss the old OKS area because of the fights. The drop rates of books were just jacked and because none have still dropped we dont know if they are still jacked.
 
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Woodiex3

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yes please put in. EVERY character should have the chance to obtain there skills,
or should we just allow the few that have them be god characters.
 

Jicaa

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All the people saying book drops is what Mir is all about clearly has no idea.

Having access too all spells would only increase enjoyment, not decrease it, unless you enjoy being left behind until the server shuts down.

If chronicles had 2 servers online, one with all spell access and one without, I can tell you now that the one with spell access would have more users then the one without.
 

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All the people saying book drops is what Mir is all about clearly has no idea.

Having access too all spells would only increase enjoyment, not decrease it, unless you enjoy being left behind until the server shuts down.

If chronicles had 2 servers online, one with all spell access and one without, I can tell you now that the one with spell access would have more users then the one without.

This is my thought process precisely.

Sam
 

ziiid

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As mentioned in the OP I think one of the biggest benefits is that this would allow GM's to much more easily balance out the classes.
 

CitRix

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All the people saying book drops is what Mir is all about clearly has no idea.

Having access too all spells would only increase enjoyment, not decrease it, unless you enjoy being left behind until the server shuts down.

If chronicles had 2 servers online, one with all spell access and one without, I can tell you now that the one with spell access would have more users then the one without.

Completely agree, what are these spells in game for if the majority of us can't use then due to poor drop rates?

There's nothing to be gained by not having them in game. As GM's you're doing a lot of work into trying to balance class because people are moaning, but how can you balance classes before everyone has access to game changing skills? It just doesn't make sense
 

TheRealSphinx

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All the people saying book drops is what Mir is all about clearly has no idea.

Having access too all spells would only increase enjoyment, not decrease it, unless you enjoy being left behind until the server shuts down.

If chronicles had 2 servers online, one with all spell access and one without, I can tell you now that the one with spell access would have more users then the one without.


Agree on that ~ server will progress forward and ppl will grow with full spells activated now or later doesnt matter... - the unbalance btw. Spells / Classes can be fixed but thats beloved community another story...

The ppl who moan here about it are proud users of them and dont wanna let others to obtain them thats a fact how most the mir community are.

I play 1h-3h daily enjoying the sun the work and the time with kids outside. So potentially i have 24x 10000 less chance then some1 who sit at home jobless and dont do anything else then playing...