Drugs

[~Webby~]

Urban i said aint AS harmful if manufactured correctly so dnt say dnt b stupid read wot i said. And obviously thy aint as bad as cowboy drugs.

Edit - i cudnt giv a fk wot my country say im my own person i can do wot like, not sayin i am a drug abuser.

 

[Vannaroth]

Drugs are for losers who cant find any otehr way to make themselves feel good.

 

[Blaminator]

drugs are bad

mmkay

 

[Solitude]

Fact: More people end up in hospital each year from alcohol related conditions than those who use Marijuana.

Soft (or 'Recreational Drugs') aren't that bad as long as they're taken in moderation. I've smoked Dope and Skunk, and I use it on a regular basis (usually 3 or 4 days a week).

As for harder drugs such as LSD,Amphetemine,Cocaine,Heroin. Anyone stupid enough to try these deserves to suffer the consequences.

Make Marijuana legal? Yes, it would bring control of the drug into the hands of the government.

The key to anything in life is in Moderation, too much of anything can kill you.

Now before you jump up and say "drugs are bad, mmkay" just consider that smoking kills more people in a week than Marijuana kills in a year. Want to make something illegal?

--Solitude--

 

[Sawell]

Fact: More people end up in hospital each year from alcohol related conditions than those who use Marijuana.

Soft (or 'Recreational Drugs') aren't that bad as long as they're taken in moderation. I've smoked Dope and Skunk, and I use it on a regular basis (usually 3 or 4 days a week).

As for harder drugs such as LSD,Amphetemine,Cocaine,Heroin. Anyone stupid enough to try these deserves to suffer the consequences.

Make Marijuana legal? Yes, it would bring control of the drug into the hands of the government.

The key to anything in life is in Moderation, too much of anything can kill you.

Now before you jump up and say "drugs are bad, mmkay" just consider that smoking kills more people in a week than Marijuana kills in a year. Want to make something illegal?

--Solitude--

All of your stats are silly, because they're based on the amount of people taking drugs... which is considerably lower than those who smoke or drink (because smoking and drinking is legal).

EDIT: And by the way, the main problem with Marijuana is the addictiveness of the 'high' you get, 5 people I know have started with Marijuana, and all 5 moved into higher grade drugs. Because the high you get from Marijuana gradually lowers and has less effect, and the drug taker looks for something with a little more kick. Not because they're stupid like you suggest, but because they're addicted to the feeling.

All 5 claimed they would never move on to higher grade drugs btw.

 

[Richens]

Some types of weed actualy prevent cancer, thus making you live longer..

And dont call people ****ing stoners you ****ing geek

man your super cool, keeping going, hopefully you'll die before you hit your 30's.

As for harder drugs such as LSD,Amphetemine,Cocaine,Heroin. Anyone stupid enough to try these deserves to suffer the consequences.[/QUOTE

So true.

And also people arn't ADICTED to any high. They just enjoy it like you enjoy masterbating ya freaks.

 

[Sawell]

Some types of weed actualy prevent cancer, thus making you live longer..

And dont call people ****ing stoners you ****ing geek

As for harder drugs such as LSD,Amphetemine,Cocaine,Heroin. Anyone stupid enough to try these deserves to suffer the consequences.[/QUOTE

So true.

And also people arn't ADICTED to any high. They just enjoy it like you enjoy masterbating ya freaks.

Not that your opinion really counts, as you're a stoner.

But yes, you are addicted. Part of the reason why you are defending an illegal substance proves this, you're in denial. Go rehab, stoner.

 

[ipixel]

Not that your opinion really counts, as you're a stoner.

But yes, you are addicted. Part of the reason why you are defending an illegal substance proves this, you're in denial. Go rehab, stoner.

ROFL.

The stoners and druggies wont win this arguement.

You say more people are in hospital for drinking and smoking and so forth, these dont alter a persons personailty and behaviour in the long run, drugs do.

Just because you smoke you dont become an entirely different person, and alchohol only has a short term effect.

 

[Solitude]

Sawell, heel boy. Addiction is like smoking, you HAVE to gave a fag or you go crazy. With smoking dope it's not that you HAVE to have a joint to get high. It's that you WANT the high. You can quit dope anytime you want. It contains no addictive substance, unlike alcohol and cigarettes.

 

[Solitude]

Smoking, you decrease your physical fitness levels. You become irritable if you havent had a fag in ages.

Drinking, you drink and drink and drink. You end up weighing less than the pint your holding, no one will talk to you because you reek of booze. You spend every day in the pub with other alcoholics, none of you speak to each other - you just drink.

Smoking Blow, you get with your m8s. You smoke a joint or two. You have a laugh, you **** about. You go home, your fine.

Like I said earlier, the key is in Moderation.

 

[ipixel]

you can apply that theory to anything, but you forget some people cant moderate themselves.

Weed is addictive, i have a mate who cant go a day without a joint.

 

[Sawell]

Course not, you just suffer from:

# Problems with memory and learning
# Distorted perception
# Difficulty with thinking and problem solving
# Loss of coordination
# Increased heart rate
# Anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks

And to conquer that you go and have another joint, and you keep doing it, and keep doing it, decide that stat you are in is nice, then it wears off after a while so you find other alternatives that make you even more off your head, then you die.

The debate over the addictive capacity of marijuana continues, so you would have to leave it down to opinion.

But I call even WANTING and having a joint at anti social hours, during work, during school, when you are with family... a serious problem. And no, it may not be relevant to you yet, but it will be.

And just to clarify, there are different meanings to the word "addicted"

1. To cause to become physiologically or psychologically dependent on a habit-forming substance: The thief was addicted to cocaine.
2. To occupy (oneself) with or involve (oneself) in something habitually or compulsively: The child was addicted to video games.


I'm talking about number two, as there is no hard core evidence of #1 yet.

 

[Wittin]

you can apply that theory to anything, but you forget some people cant moderate themselves.

Weed is addictive, i have a mate who cant go a day without a joint.

I've been smoking weed for a good few years now, and I've gone weeks without a spliff, just to prove to myself I can do it. And I can!

However, Sawell makes a valid point that weed does lead onto harder things, myself being an example of this, however I must disagree on the reason you put forward for people moving onto harder drugs, weed still gets me stoned, therefore I still do it regularly, it's not a case of replacing weed with harder drugs, it's a case of doing harder drugs for the higher states of euphoria.

Drugs have ****ed up my life, now I'm mentally addicted to quite a few of them, therefore I'm not going to stop unless I really want to, and quite simply I don't.

You all seem to think that drugs are all about image, or not giving a **** about your life, but I do! What you seem to forget is the sheer pleasure of it. I often find myself ashamed to tell people about what/how many drugs I've done, simply because I'm not proud of it. I'm still in college, moving on to my A2 subjects next year.

I can also see some of your views, I've seen a few of my mates in situations I wish I hadn't. Drugs arn't glamourous.

Of course it's only going to be the users of the drugs defending them, because they are the only ones who actually know what it's all about. You can claim to know everything about a drug, but you don't untill you have actually tried it. The feelings given to a user by a drug cannot be put into words, for those who haven't tried them, it's simply incomprehendable.

You may look down on me because of my views, many have, but I am passionate about them.

 

[Skyline]

Course not, you just suffer from:

# Problems with memory and learning
# Distorted perception
# Difficulty with thinking and problem solving
# Loss of coordination
# Increased heart rate
# Anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks.

All these are also caused from drink.

The fact is, all drugs are the same as drink.

There all a drug, they all **** with your head, but drugs are the most harmful.

i have no problem with ppl smoking weed- i dont do it my self. But you do go higher in the drug levels, same with drink. You can go out, start with lager, then move to a spirit and soft drink (whisky and coke, redbull and vodka ect), then onto shots etc etc.

Now with dope/hash/blow/weed what ever, you start with that, maybe not in the same night, maybe days, weeks, months, years after, you try something else, like whizz, coke, heroin, smack, ecstacy, pills... ive seen it in my best mate, who would never take any drug, suddleny started smoking weed on a night out, then e started with whizz, then he started on pills, and i witness the other week him buying some cocaine...

Thats about the 6th person i know do it.

@Sawell - sorry due i fked ur post up, i pressed edit by accident ><

 

[Eskimo]

lol doctors don't give you weed dip**** 'Here smoke this weed it will make you better.'

ROFL.

They give Cannabis plants to the people under the affect of MS (Multiple Sclerosis) as apparently it calms they're behaviour down. My friends dad had MS and he had thousands of Cannabis plants in his house. "Buzzing" they were.


P.S] Don't know if anyone had already said about Doctors giving it out for MS, I only know Pixie said about them giving it out for mental illnesses. I can't be bothered to read the whole thread.

 

[Richens]

Course not, you just suffer
# Problems with memory and learning
# Distorted perception
# Difficulty with thinking and problem solving
# Loss of coordination
# Increased heart rate
# Anxiety, paranoia and panic attacks

I find it helps you thinking and problem solving, but it also varies with what bud you smoke. Iv'e have loss no noticeable coordination, my heart rate hasn't increased (i actualy go to the Gym 3-4 times a week). I have had no problems with learning (smoked weed since 15, im 16 now, 17 in august) got 2 A's 5 B's 7 C's 1 D' (RE) but im Athestist so i dont care tbh.

Weed also helps you express yourself in ways you never believe you could of.

Try it, then come back and you will find your opinions are total rubish. It's not adictive, and thats from experience.

This is the last post i do on this thread, because i believe the conflict within this thread is ripping people apart.

Spread love, not hate.

Peace.

 

[Wittin]

I find it helps you thinking and problem solving, but it also varies with what bud you smoke. Iv'e have loss no noticeable coordination, my heart rate hasn't increased (i actualy go to the Gym 3-4 times a week). I have had no problems with learning (smoked weed since 15) got 2 A's 5 B's 7 C's 1 D' (RE) but im Athestist so i dont care tbh.

Weed also helps you express yourself in ways you never believe you could.

Try it, then come back and proove your opinions. It's not adictive, and thats from experience.

This is the last post i do on this thread, because i believe the conflict within this thread is ripping people apart.

Spread love, not hate.

Peace.

Correct, weed smokers are generally more creative and imaginative. I must also agree that I haven't noticed any coordination loss from smoking weed, infact, when I'm stoned my reaction times are actually faster. I would imagine this is because of the increased levels of focus cannabis brings. I however have noticed a huge drop in my fitness levels over the last year or so, I would probably put this mainly down to cigarettes though.

I've met people in my life that seem to think that when you take a drug, you entirely loose your mind, regardless of what drug it is. Ok, fair enough this maybe the case with acid, or higher doses of other phychodelic drugs, but it just shocks me to see how the media have inaccurately portrayed drugs in general.

I like the way you closed your post, I often feel discriminated against because I do drugs, people like to point fingures and say 'Your the bad man', just so that they can feel good in themselfs, whilst on the other hand I'm doing drugs to feel good in myself, the key difference is, I'm not trying to put someone else down. What I'm trying to say is that neither side of the arguement is right, I think if people are against drugs then they simply shouldn't do them, and not try to impose their will on others. If I want to throw my life away, then let me do it, because I'm ****ing loving it!

Hope you see where I'm coming from.
<3 goes out to you!

 

[Sawell]

Yes because we all know the scientists are all against people who take weed, and aren’t there to try and help and work out for you and us what the effects are, they want to kill you and make you bleed.

You are obviously right Richens.

Get real, there's some of that paranoia coming into play, you like that? Like it good? Yeah? ooh?? Yeah? Go get some more? Go get some! Yeah! DAMN YEAH! The scientists are out to get you, and there is no where to run!

Everyone just hates druggies, we don't care about them, we don't want to try and help them.. that's why we don't setup rehab clinics, and don't give money towards people who make themselves homeless from it, and set up groups to try and fight it.

Get real, we do care... it's quite obvious from our posts, reading between the lines that we'd rather you didn't smoke weed, why do you think that is? Dig deep, it's not because we're jealous (otherwise we'd do it) and it's not because we have big ray guns behind our backs waiting to shoot you when you admit that drugs are illegal for a reason.

 

[illumin8]

I find it helps you thinking and problem solving, but it also varies with what bud you smoke. Iv'e have loss no noticeable coordination, my heart rate hasn't increased (i actualy go to the Gym 3-4 times a week). I have had no problems with learning (smoked weed since 15, im 16 now, 17 in august) got 2 A's 5 B's 7 C's 1 D' (RE) but im Athestist so i dont care tbh.

Weed also helps you express yourself in ways you never believe you could of.

Try it, then come back and you will find your opinions are total rubish. It's not adictive, and thats from experience.

This is the last post i do on this thread, because i believe the conflict within this thread is ripping people apart.

Spread love, not hate.

Peace.

m8 i have tried it all.

You defend drugs because you keep taking them i have witnessed people in my family deteriorate because of drugs and because of that i will never take them again or never encourage someone else to take them.

Like pixie said if you need drugs to enlighten your life then you are a sad person.

 

[Pyraine]

'Drugs' in general suck, mushies have ****ed up a few of my friends mentally, but they deserve it for taking them and i hold no sympathy for them

Canabis however, is a whole different story and i think you can't judge it till you've tried it, it's illegal because if it was legal, people would probably do it in mega high dosages, then it is bad, but controlling it and not getting too monged is a relaxing and enjoyable experience, and it also makes constant intense levelling on a game (which is usually boring) seem reaally fun, ROSE for example