GG Cash Shop becoming P2W?

Is Apocalypse Mir becoming too P2W?

  • Yes

    Votes: 29 59.2%
  • No

    Votes: 14 28.6%
  • Other (Please explain)

    Votes: 6 12.2%

  • Total voters
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Piff1

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This is the biggest P2W server since Chronicles in terms of Exp Pots which are going to be bought the most, the problem is it's hourly... Should of done 1Day pots like on Marble / Zircon you'd find a **** loads more people would donate.

Soon as server only have the option for 1hour exp pots you know they are just trying to rape there player wallets, Eden / Zircon / Marble have all use 8/12/24Hour pots and i never felt like i was getting robbed donating on any of them server's. This hour **** really need's to go.
 

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i still cant get my head round 450+ players playing it >.<

no disrespect to the apoc team but cmon, 100% ready? website complete shortly after...

skills in game that arnt even on the website...

if this isnt an incentive for MarbleV2 or even ChroniclesV2 to see the potential of mir2 then nothing is.

PM me Jamie im up for helping with MarbleV2 ;)
 

Piff1

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i still cant get my head round 450+ players playing it >.<

no disrespect to the apoc team but cmon, 100% ready? website complete shortly after...

skills in game that arnt even on the website...

if this isnt an incentive for MarbleV2 or even ChroniclesV2 to see the potential of mir2 then nothing is.

PM me Jamie im up for helping with MarbleV2 ;)

I'd actually love to see You and Jamie work together, i agree though the files are not very polished at all, there dead parts on the screen you can't click and you will stop running mid lure if you move your mouse there, they tried to fix the Win10 chat bug and now you have to Click to enter your ID / Edit how many pots / rts etc you want, getting stuck on little twigs on the floors tiles must be ****ed on loads of maps.

Still a good server but this UC is clearly because of the massive Gap for a Mir2 server right now and the fact all the members of the team are respected on LOMCN, i don't see anything to special in these files what so ever, the thing i've enjoyed the most so far is that the Volume / Music tabs have the option to click - / + so you don't have to **** about dragging the bar trying to mute it like 10 times and that's hardly ground breaking.
 

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This was addressed, a complete mistake. Fixed already. We know how bad this is for the game. We Addressed it very clearly.

This is the biggest P2W server since Chronicles in terms of Exp Pots which are going to be bought the most, the problem is it's hourly... Should of done 1Day pots like on Marble / Zircon you'd find a **** loads more people would donate.

Soon as server only have the option for 1hour exp pots you know they are just trying to rape there player wallets, Eden / Zircon / Marble have all use 8/12/24Hour pots and i never felt like i was getting robbed donating on any of them server's. This hour **** really need's to go.

Your post confuses me? you want us to remove short "P2W" one hour buffs to put in constant buffs? Does that not make it more P2W? Everyone needs constant buffs then? Makes the server make loads more money.. I cant help your mindset, the reality is, one hour on a 40% is similar to 1 day on a 10% as most people dont level for a full 24 Hours. (my opinion)

I'd actually love to see You and Jamie work together, i agree though the files are not very polished at all, there dead parts on the screen you can't click and you will stop running mid lure if you move your mouse there, they tried to fix the Win10 chat bug and now you have to Click to enter your ID / Edit how many pots / rts etc you want, getting stuck on little twigs on the floors tiles must be ****ed on loads of maps.

Still a good server but this UC is clearly because of the massive Gap for a Mir2 server right now and the fact all the members of the team are respected on LOMCN, i don't see anything to special in these files what so ever, the thing i've enjoyed the most so far is that the Volume / Music tabs have the option to click - / + so you don't have to **** about dragging the bar trying to mute it like 10 times and that's hardly ground breaking.

The highest level is 30. You wont see all the best areas of the server until end game. We realize the beginning of the server (low level) is 1-2 weeks. The end of the server is the rest. We have implemented our best stuff towards the end.

-Apocalypse Team
 

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How do i confuse you ? Re-work your price and make the buff last 24 hours, your just raping people with that Hour exp buff, no server has done that since Chronicles, always been atleast 3 and 6 hour exp pots on, these prices are ****ing absurd i can't believe you trying to condone it. Mental as ****, some dude worked out the math to stay on a 40% exp pot 24/7 u'd be paying more than UK minimum wage how can you think thats acceptable? Knowing arabs / well off people are going to be on them 24/7 and majority of people are not in the situation to afford that.

Mean while on Marble, i was paying 1£ for a 24Hour exp pot at 15£ exp pot, which when hardcoring would last 3 days as it paused in SZ. I really think the GS price need re-thinking. Take my advice as you wish but people are all kicking up a fuss for a reason.
 

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The server is nowhere near finished we can all agree there. It’s a shambles at best.

I never understood what attracted 400 people to it anyway , there is no amazing features advertised , no amazing new spells, the items are the same the caves are the same.

Desperation for a decent mir2 I guess.
 

Sanjian

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lmfao Zedina if your going to give a negative rep at least make a post about it...



Im not jealous at all, i hope Apoc does bloody well

you just dont like how i said i would be a part of a server with jamie.... what a tool you are :)
 

zedina

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lmfao Zedina if your going to give a negative rep at least make a post about it...



Im not jealous at all, i hope Apoc does bloody well

you just dont like how i said i would be a part of a server with jamie.... what a tool you are :)

Some one sad that fishing project had not same success as Apocalypse. ;)
 

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How do i confuse you ? Re-work your price and make the buff last 24 hours, your just raping people with that Hour exp buff, no server has done that since Chronicles, always been atleast 3 and 6 hour exp pots on, these prices are ****ing absurd i can't believe you trying to condone it. Mental as ****, some dude worked out the math to stay on a 40% exp pot 24/7 u'd be paying more than UK minimum wage how can you think thats acceptable? Knowing arabs / well off people are going to be on them 24/7 and majority of people are not in the situation to afford that.

Mean while on Marble, i was paying 1£ for a 24Hour exp pot at 15£ exp pot, which when hardcoring would last 3 days as it paused in SZ. I really think the GS price need re-thinking. Take my advice as you wish but people are all kicking up a fuss for a reason.

Couldn't agree more, the pricing structure excludes average people and gives those with bigger wallets the advantage.

No normal person is going to pay £4 for a 1 hour EXP potion unless you've got money to burn.

IMO and this is just my opinion, EXP potions should be as follows:

£1 = 10%+ EXP 24 hours
£2 = 20%+ EXP 24 hours
£3 = 30%+ EXP 24 hours

With the timers being frozen when logged out or in SZ. Might see a reduction from the tier of players who have cash to burn, but the average player would be more likely to donate.

Desperation for a decent mir2 I guess.

100% this, the community are craving a decent Mir 2 server that's not P2W, low rate and has a genuine Euro feel. This server has potential as all do, lets hope its not a quick cash grab and fully developed like Chronicles or to a certain extent Marble.
 

zedina

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Small suggestion : Copy Zircon GameShop, its one of the coolest GS i ever saw (price-buffs)
 

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Small suggestion : Copy Zircon GameShop, its one of the coolest GS i ever saw (price-buffs)

I always felt the cash vs gains were quite good in Zircon, wouldn't want to see all of the stat boosts that went on there though the difference between someone running all buffs vs a regular player was insane (especially when considering companions)
 

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yes big difference between players. They can keep buffs only weekends and lower duration, 1 hr- 2hr - 3 hr.. no 24hrs thats bs. have buff events have working ppl get a chance to catch up, evenings and weekends. the point here is fair and balanced server give everybody an equal chance, it will keep your server healthy as long there is competition. how can i fight a level 40 next week🤔. It took years to get 40 in low rate servers, gradually slow it down, let people grind it will keep your server longer.
 

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This was addressed, a complete mistake. Fixed already. We know how bad this is for the game. We Addressed it very clearly.

So let me ask, how does one purchace a new mount ingame, once the quest one gets to 0?
Or any of the accessories. As i haven't see a vendor anywhere yet.

Or even meat, as I'm sure no-one wants to harvest 50 deer per day for that daily, just for a piece of 1000/20,000 meat.
 

Seanofsmeg

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Not even playing the server so completely unbiased opinion is your gameshop needs work - You are probably raking in the cash and if that's the main focus then cool but if its to create level playing field I would re-visit it.

The above opinions I think are spot on of something similar to zircon as I thought unlocking like perm buffs of +1 here and there went a long way and was something to work towards that felt purchasing didn't break the game but were affordable and worth while and I didn't envy others that had them or thought person X is going to be overpowered than me no point in playing.

The amount you charge for a 1hr increase is quite a bit. I don't know if the above post is true about unlocking mounts in dungeons but if so in my opinion is a bad move as your creating an instant divide between what somebody can and can't do in your game based on donating.
 

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You’ve proved in your own post that what they are doing is correct... if idiots want to buy 1.2/1.4 pots for 1hr and the server team are making enough money to continue... then that is fine.. if they change it to 12/24 hours basically everyone has to pay that to keep up as it will entice more people to lvl quicker and keep up and the server will last 6months.. look how long chronicles has been open!! Open your eyes look at the bigger picture
 
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You’ve proved in your own post that what they are doing is correct... if idiots want to buy 1.2/1.4 pots for 1hr and the server team are making enough money to continue... then that is fine.. if they change it to 12/24 hours basically everyone has to pay that to keep up as it will entice more people to lvl quicker and keep up and the server will last 6months.. look how long chronicles has been open!! Open your eyes look at the bigger picture

I couldn't of worded it better myself.
 

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The thing that i don't like is sooner or later the xp pots will go from "optional" to "mandatory" and if you aren't using them you shouldn't bother to play because you're gonna fall too far behind. I do believe something needs to change about that but i'm not the one to solve it. I didn't play zircon for long but i did like the hunt gold thing from it maybe that could be useful here
 
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