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koz1122

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Right where to start im going to try speak for the majority here not the minority.

First things first, all these major changes you are implementing into the game, lets start with the hp regen, boss hp buff. Not all 400 players on the server enjoy leveling/big guilds etc (you claim you dont want a two guild server but forcing our hand nerfing hp regen and buffing bosses). When people want a break from leveling its nice to be able to kill a boss with two of you, nobody actually cares about euro bosses except the odd moaner, majority have killed them plenty on every server, they should have been left alone except maybe the higher teir ones like dd/fox etc. All im actually seeing at the moment is a leveling server which can get boring pretty fast, isnt much diversity in kit as it is, granted you have new caves with couple new items aimed at 45+... mean if its slow as ive seen and highest level is a wiz on constant pots at 42, i dont even want to guess how long the average usercount will take to hit 45, and by then i can see alot of people will have left.

Secondly nerfs to classes based on opinions, you shouldnt buff or nerf classes on a few opinions, you will always have moaners who cry about their class but yet you seem to be doing in based on what you think ‘down the line’ is an average kit, i can see usercount the way its going drop to 200 in the next week.

Dont get me wrong people miss euro due to nostalgia, but in all honestly nobody actually enjoys doing it all again as hard as euro was, people want fun bosses, be able to level or kill bosses if bored of leveling and pvp. At the moment im just seeing a leveling server.

You really need to start doing votes on these ideas you are implementing, people have benefited from alot of the nerfs your doing then others are being shat on so to speak.

Wizzies cry they get 2hit happens on every server a warrior always raped wizards if they get to them. There glass cannons mean lets do an example, fastest leveling class, can kill alot of bosses with a wall/tbolt, has aoe spells, has pets vs a minor aoe class that specialises in 1on1 damage.

Taos cry they arent powerful, its a support class with what i would consider two of the most game changing spells in mir, poison and curse.

Cant comment on sins/archers as they are new but see my point, you’ll always get people crying their class isnt good enough because they want to be the best stop listening to the minority over the majority. Happens on every server and your going to slowly kill your server.

Private servers dont last forever and you clone it to much like euro people will get bored quickly. Once again like i said that majority over the minority.
 

morphios87

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Right where to start im going to try speak for the majority here not the minority.

First things first, all these major changes you are implementing into the game, lets start with the hp regen, boss hp buff. Not all 400 players on the server enjoy leveling/big guilds etc (you claim you dont want a two guild server but forcing our hand nerfing hp regen and buffing bosses). When people want a break from leveling its nice to be able to kill a boss with two of you, nobody actually cares about euro bosses except the odd moaner, majority have killed them plenty on every server, they should have been left alone except maybe the higher teir ones like dd/fox etc. All im actually seeing at the moment is a leveling server which can get boring pretty fast, isnt much diversity in kit as it is, granted you have new caves with couple new items aimed at 45+... mean if its slow as ive seen and highest level is a wiz on constant pots at 42, i dont even want to guess how long the average usercount will take to hit 45, and by then i can see alot of people will have left.

Secondly nerfs to classes based on opinions, you shouldnt buff or nerf classes on a few opinions, you will always have moaners who cry about their class but yet you seem to be doing in based on what you think ‘down the line’ is an average kit, i can see usercount the way its going drop to 200 in the next week.

Dont get me wrong people miss euro due to nostalgia, but in all honestly nobody actually enjoys doing it all again as hard as euro was, people want fun bosses, be able to level or kill bosses if bored of leveling and pvp. At the moment im just seeing a leveling server.

You really need to start doing votes on these ideas you are implementing, people have benefited from alot of the nerfs your doing then others are being shat on so to speak.

Wizzies cry they get 2hit happens on every server a warrior always raped wizards if they get to them. There glass cannons mean lets do an example, fastest leveling class, can kill alot of bosses with a wall/tbolt, has aoe spells, has pets vs a minor aoe class that specialises in 1on1 damage.

Taos cry they arent powerful, its a support class with what i would consider two of the most game changing spells in mir, poison and curse.

Cant comment on sins/archers as they are new but see my point, you’ll always get people crying their class isnt good enough because they want to be the best stop listening to the minority over the majority. Happens on every server and your going to slowly kill your server.

Private servers dont last forever and you clone it to much like euro people will get bored quickly. Once again like i said that majority over the minority.

How do you know the majority feel the same way you do? Have you asked 200+ people? If it was the majority that thought this way then the forums would be filled with posts like this one??
 

Ecexlor

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Is this what where going to see on this forum over the next week, warrior players that just what the perfect defensive and offensive character. If u don’t like the class, then change. Simple. People bitching about any class is just going to perpetuate this on going changes. I wish mages had more hp, but I chose the mage knowing the were weak. Warriors are high hp and defence, so equally should be have lower attacks. If tdb uses a lot of mana, then done use it as often. If people want to leave due to this, then leave. It’s pointless using this as a deterrent of the server survival, cos people will still play. And this goes to all the previous winging posts.
 

Knotty

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In fairness the vast majority of players don’t even use the forum
 

koz1122

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Dont know why you think my post is aimed about warrior nerf? It was an example. Secondly you call wizards mages, so i wont even waste my time with you. Warrior has higher defence? Enlighten me? They have more hp yeah, defence? No. Ac we do, wiz has more amc, tao has balance of both, you actually new to mir or just retarded? Lol

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This isnt wow bro and warriors arent tanks there is no hold aggro system on mir that works like wow. Warriors a melee damage class, wiz is a range damage class, tao is support.

Back on subject im not sulking as a warrior im stating your nerfing/changing stuff without enough input, my main issue was the boss changes, you made a server that was half fun become a find a group or just level server. Is pretty boring
 

Aidonlee

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There are bosses two players can kill.

Oma warriors - if you're like level 10
Bone elite - Like maybe level 15
Khazard - Might be looking at level 25
KS - If you're a wizzie and a tao at level 30, maybe even two sins.

There are multiple sub bosses all around the game which drop pretty decent items and books.
The reason people are levelling constantly is because they know, when they level they will be able to kill and be more useful during the bigger boss hunts.

Get yourself levelled up and i'm sure a guild on the server will be more than happy to recruit you and take you with them to a boss hunt.
 

Ecexlor

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Who cares if some says a mage or wiz, hardly a debate to decide on someone’s Mir credentials u clown. Yes this is not wow, but warriors are the games tank, if not, who is? But thank you for the basic Mir guidance. You are winging, like most posts are. The game has hardly had a chance, if u don’t like it clear off to another game and take ya negativity with you.
 

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Is this what where going to see on this forum over the next week, warrior players that just what the perfect defensive and offensive character. If u don’t like the class, then change. Simple. People bitching about any class is just going to perpetuate this on going changes. I wish mages had more hp, but I chose the mage knowing the were weak. Warriors are high hp and defence, so equally should be have lower attacks. If tdb uses a lot of mana, then done use it as often. If people want to leave due to this, then leave. It’s pointless using this as a deterrent of the server survival, cos people will still play. And this goes to all the previous winging posts.

All of this
 

Xx69xX

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Right where to start im going to try speak for the majority here not the minority.

First things first, all these major changes you are implementing into the game, lets start with the hp regen, boss hp buff. Not all 400 players on the server enjoy leveling/big guilds etc (you claim you dont want a two guild server but forcing our hand nerfing hp regen and buffing bosses). When people want a break from leveling its nice to be able to kill a boss with two of you, nobody actually cares about euro bosses except the odd moaner, majority have killed them plenty on every server, they should have been left alone except maybe the higher teir ones like dd/fox etc. All im actually seeing at the moment is a leveling server which can get boring pretty fast, isnt much diversity in kit as it is, granted you have new caves with couple new items aimed at 45+... mean if its slow as ive seen and highest level is a wiz on constant pots at 42, i dont even want to guess how long the average usercount will take to hit 45, and by then i can see alot of people will have left.

What am i doing: Watching Sub 40 taos solo DD. Think thats ok? Change made and no regrets on it.

Secondly nerfs to classes based on opinions, you shouldnt buff or nerf classes on a few opinions, you will always have moaners who cry about their class but yet you seem to be doing in based on what you think ‘down the line’ is an average kit, i can see usercount the way its going drop to 200 in the next week.

Watching Flame disruptor hit 180s-200s at skill level 1. Change made and no regrets about it.

Dont get me wrong people miss euro due to nostalgia, but in all honestly nobody actually enjoys doing it all again as hard as euro was, people want fun bosses, be able to level or kill bosses if bored of leveling and pvp. At the moment im just seeing a leveling server.

There are roughly 40+ new subs in the game. Stop leveling and go find them if you want more than leveling? I have ensured all levels on the server have access to these.

You really need to start doing votes on these ideas you are implementing, people have benefited from alot of the nerfs your doing then others are being shat on so to speak.

I have several people moaning at me about a spell they havnt used yet. Dont think a vote is always helpful at this stage of the game when players dont have access to information they are voting on.

At a later stage, ofc the voice of the forums will be huge. But right now its completely inconsistent due to this.


Wizzies cry they get 2hit happens on every server a warrior always raped wizards if they get to them. There glass cannons mean lets do an example, fastest leveling class, can kill alot of bosses with a wall/tbolt, has aoe spells, has pets vs a minor aoe class that specialises in 1on1 damage.

We just nerfed their hp regen increase... where have we helped a wiz not die O.o? Ill say this again here, because players not often see the basics. But the hp regen nerf is a massive buff to warriors as it makes their hp pools actually worth something now, as classes with lower pools will now actually die if they try to toe-toe warriors.

Taos cry they arent powerful, its a support class with what i would consider two of the most game changing spells in mir, poison and curse.

We have said this for 2 weeks.

Cant comment on sins/archers as they are new but see my point, you’ll always get people crying their class isnt good enough because they want to be the best stop listening to the minority over the majority. Happens on every server and your going to slowly kill your server.

Not changed any of the above, so by your standards we are not slowly killing our server then?

Private servers dont last forever and you clone it to much like euro people will get bored quickly. Once again like i said that majority over the minority

I dont know who you are ingame, but i can clearly see you have not explored the server at all which suggests your not likley to be above level 33 yet, as the euro part of this is about 50% of the game, we added several new caves, several new bosses, LOADs of new sub bosses etc.
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Responded in bold. Not really sure what else to say here O.o

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koz1122

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Not winging at all? Dont care about pvp/war changes that will get ironed out, mir doesnt have tanks you noodle, mages can tank as much as warriors with level3 shield up. Your just one of them players who sees the oh i have 140hp on my wiz vs a 600 hp war means hes tank. Wrong babycake.

I was stating this needs more things to do, its a euro clone with some items added after 40 thats it, the gm’s are active and trying fair play but they shouldnt listen to noodles like this guy who calls a wiz mage and claims im buyist about a class yet he clearly defends his class.

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Thanks for replying dan, i agree with your tao point but that isnt because of anything other than green damaging to much aswell as stopping regen, theres alot of bugs with taos on crystal files.

Green overrides mobs, so if ur fighting for boss and tao keeps it green he gets the last hit/drop.

If i remember you’ll also run into issues with curse on these files. Its like i stated i dont expect to solo dd im talking about **** bosses like ec khaz kh etc
 

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Not winging at all? Dont care about pvp/war changes that will get ironed out, mir doesnt have tanks you noodle, mages can tank as much as warriors with level3 shield up. Your just one of them players who sees the oh i have 140hp on my wiz vs a 600 hp war means hes tank. Wrong babycake.

I was stating this needs more things to do, its a euro clone with some items added after 40 thats it, the gm’s are active and trying fair play but they shouldnt listen to noodles like this guy who calls a wiz mage and claims im buyist about a class yet he clearly defends his class.

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Thanks for replying dan, i agree with your tao point but that isnt because of anything other than green damaging to much aswell as stopping regen, theres alot of bugs with taos on crystal files.

Green overrides mobs, so if ur fighting for boss and tao keeps it green he gets the last hit/drop.

If i remember you’ll also run into issues with curse on these files. Its like i stated i dont expect to solo dd im talking about **** bosses like ec khaz kh etc

Did not touch any bosses other than BDD/MTK/BL/OK, and this was because players were saying how boring and easy they were.

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koz1122

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Ill talk to you in disc when i get a chance then you’ll understand what i mean hard to come across via typing.
 

Ecexlor

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I’m sat wondering why you think the GM’s should listen to me? Well because they cannot, as I have never; winged, moaned, cried or made any suggestions before. Oh and I’m not saying that you ain’t impartial at all, I just think u like to keep the fourm active with your constant moaning.
 

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A handfull of players who geeked it killed (solo/duo) most bosses on the clock, and after 1 week or so when other ppl began to do so, they said it was too easy, so the others wont catch up in terms of items and ****. Ok, fine.

Damage: TDB is currently without fail the most overpowered skill in the game at present. I am watching warriors run around in 2 gale rings and very basic warrior gear hitting 70sX2 thats 140 damage.

I can make a vid to show u how you're DEAD wrong here if u'd like. I will use what u just described, and hit lvl3 tdb's with 1-2 sec between them to see the dmg. Idk from who u come with those numbers tbh.
 

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A handfull of players who geeked it killed (solo/duo) most bosses on the clock, and after 1 week or so when other ppl began to do so, they said it was too easy, so the others wont catch up in terms of items and ****. Ok, fine.



I can make a vid to show u how you're DEAD wrong here if u'd like. I will use what u just described, and hit lvl3 tdb's with 1-2 sec between them to see the dmg. Idk from who u come with those numbers tbh.

Will be discussed tonight in the discord discussion at 5:30pm. If i get back in time i will try and get some evidence together, but i am pushing to get home at 5pm at the moment let alone before, Ill do my best.

-Apocalypse Team
 

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Will be discussed tonight in the discord discussion at 5:30pm. If i get back in time i will try and get some evidence together, but i am pushing to get home at 5pm at the moment let alone before, Ill do my best.

-Apocalypse Team

You don't need evidence, you just need to calm it down on the massive changes. Who's supervising the changes? Steve Buscemi?
 

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A handfull of players who geeked it killed (solo/duo) most bosses on the clock, and after 1 week or so when other ppl began to do so, they said it was too easy, so the others wont catch up in terms of items and ****. Ok, fine.



I can make a vid to show u how you're DEAD wrong here if u'd like. I will use what u just described, and hit lvl3 tdb's with 1-2 sec between them to see the dmg. Idk from who u come with those numbers tbh.

u cry on fourm on every single of game i told u before how strong tdb was and he test it holy do u think ur better than him
 

koz1122

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Its all good kori, not all of us want to be in biggest guild on server and push our way to victory with half the usercount in one guild, same kori just different server. I like how you change class due to what files servers running, on crystal your always the wiz which is the biggest benefactor on these files x
 

Jambo

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I think it's a ****ing joke that you have allowed people to farm these **** euro bosses and bow you've upped them and made pot regen slower. So now the casual players like me have been ****ed over. Round of applause! This server will die soon enough if you carry on the way you are. The sooner Jamie releases his new server the better.