I think I have just fixed your Archer class - thoughts?

[Mystickiller]

Too much put into this. Simple fix is revert the changes and change how much crit % effects ab. Its really sad with 98dc to hit with lv3 ab and see 3-0-0 lol.
Fireshots spam for near 300 but ab can't even be casted at range and be worth it. I'd rather use archery.

 

[ILovePie:D]

I agree with most of that muffin.

I do not think the archer should 1 hit anyone without some form of build up.
If 5 stacks is completely impossible after tedting in an organised team fight then perhaps adjust it to 4 or even 3 to gain the max buff.

Anyone thinking an archer should be good at 1 on 1 or outnumbered pvp should consider where an archer stood in any war, it wasnt front line..
Legolas was an exception

Just consider what was broken.
Ranged class appear anywhere on screen and 1 hit 4 of the 5 classes.
That just cannot happen its so overpowered its just silly.

Anyways difference in opinion is healthy. Some good pros and cons from this one.
Regarless of if itll be "the fix" itd be a very nice addition.

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Pie, i agree specing kit is important, but needing a full respec because 1 char has learnt 1 skill with no other requirement is abit OTT.

I mean no offence by this but luk7 is another issue entirely. 100% max hits should not be achievable and should that broken aspect not be present ingame i don't think many people would fear you in your full AGIL kit.
The point I'm trying to make is that a full respec is not viable for 99% of the players. and would not be half as effective without luk 7.

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*as many people would fear you*
still some

If I was to switch to Blades of magi, instead of fates, it'd still be DC93 in full agil.

I have a great MR kit set up too, which doesn't set back much DC. As I have a nice PR kit too.

People cry for a nerf, simply because they want to run around in their highest spec attack gear, and expect not to be hit hard.

 

[muffinpie]

I agree with kit specing ive got a few anti poison items just for fights and certain bosses, aswell as always carrying a tiger necky and if i want i could make 3 mr gems with marbles i have in my store right now, the point is its not very hard or expensive to get the marbles to make the gems to do this people are just too lazy to do it, i think my anti poison kit has cost me about a mill in total (not including my antipoison armour mystickiller gave me),

 

[KylerStern]

If I was to switch to Blades of magi, instead of fates, it'd still be DC93 in full agil.

I have a great MR kit set up too, which doesn't set back much DC. As I have a nice PR kit too.

People cry for a nerf, simply because they want to run around in their highest spec attack gear, and expect not to be hit hard.

I cant argue with that mate lol, 93 DC in ful agil is just insane, I don't think i have 93dc in full dc.
perhaps a full respec is viable for people with enough gold to do it and not lose out on any killing potential but 80% of the server dont have the gold to do it.

using you as an example has broken any argument i can put so i bow out in gracious defeat.

skill is still cool though and will/would be a nice addition =)

 

[Nizzles]

might be a good idea to put items with a bit more defence in the database. not like dc 7 with ac 0-1. maybe dc 5 with amc 3 and ac 2 and make them a little more commonplace so theyre worth gemming etc. theres not really much of a mix of stats in gear without gemming. it would be nice to see some new items introduced and made available from the current bosses. no need to make new caves. just make a larger item database to make hunting the current tiers more fun.


the item sets all seem old and outdated for the skills available. thinks like hwan sets are just not used much as theyre ****. yet these items are rare.

revamp things like redflower sets so that the stats are better and the bonus is actually good.

and make completely nw sets and items. and don't make them all super rare... make certain bosses drop their own dropfile aswell as the current dropfile. so each boss drops its own unique set items.

 

[ILovePie:D]

I cant argue with that mate lol, 93 DC in ful agil is just insane, I don't think i have 93dc in full dc.
perhaps a full respec is viable for people with enough gold to do it and not lose out on any killing potential but 80% of the server dont have the gold to do it.

using you as an example has broken any argument i can put so i bow out in gracious defeat.

skill is still cool though and will/would be a nice addition =)

As Blu mentioned, the MR/PR gems/marbles are dirt cheap, so it wouldn't be hard to add to kit. You could easily try for +2 or +3 on boots / belt / armour without sacrificing attack power. The kit's i've created, i've done over time. At one stage I had 9x DC3 agil braces, all in progress for more DC.

You would spec accuracy to hit bosses 100% of the time, over some DC, no different really.

Skill is a great idea yeah, but AB can stil be buffed

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might be a good idea to put items with a bit more defence in the database. not like dc 7 with ac 0-1. maybe dc 5 with amc 3 and ac 2 and make them a little more commonplace so theyre worth gemming etc. theres not really much of a mix of stats in gear without gemming. it would be nice to see some new items introduced and made available from the current bosses. no need to make new caves. just make a larger item database to make hunting the current tiers more fun.

I doubt anyone would even gem them? Dep can get 90+ AC in an AC kit (nothing special). It'll be like soul rings, for taos.

 

[Nizzles]

As Blu mentioned, the MR/PR gems/marbles are dirt cheap, so it wouldn't be hard to add to kit. You could easily try for +2 or +3 on boots / belt / armour without sacrificing attack power. The kit's i've created, i've done over time. At one stage I had 9x DC3 agil braces, all in progress for more DC.

You would spec accuracy to hit bosses 100% of the time, over some DC, no different really.

Skill is a great idea yeah, but AB can stil be buffed

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I doubt anyone would even gem them? Dep can get 90+ AC in an AC kit (nothing special). It'll be like soul rings, for taos.

im talking about not having a particular ac/amc kit tho. should be abe t have a mix of all required stats

 

[ILovePie:D]

im talking about not having a particular ac/amc kit tho. should be abe t have a mix of all required stats

Slotted items on here make it easy to achieve this. Slotted expel rings, give some nice extra amc, while retaining DC. Slotted bronze/steel gloves etc. Few gems and you're away

 

[Xx69xX]

iv not read all the other posts, but this idea is really good and really realistic... it however could become unblanaced vs a wizard without flamefield or a tao as the archer would never have to move. Everywhere is it would be fair. perhaps make it remove on 2-3 flinches too? This would balance that issue out. Warriors/sins hit 2-3 hits in seconds with the Aspeed ingame so wouldnt be an issue there either..

Just my thoughts added.

 

[Nizzles]

Slotted items on here make it easy to achieve this. Slotted expel rings, give some nice extra amc, while retaining DC. Slotted bronze/steel gloves etc. Few gems and you're away

Thats all well and good. Slotted expels though... Ha. They're level 25 items. How about some higher level items. Maybe a higher level expel ring with 2-5 mac and 1-4 of all the stats. At level 40+ why are we relying on level 23 gold bracers and 25 expel rings to get amc? And that's just an example. Ps I'm not asking for these items to be common

 

[ILovePie:D]

Thats all well and good. Slotted expels though... Ha. They're level 25 items. How about some higher level items. Maybe a higher level expel ring with 2-5 mac and 1-4 of all the stats. At level 40+ why are we relying on level 23 gold bracers and 25 expel rings to get amc? And that's just an example. Ps I'm not asking for these items to be common

Wearing said lvl 23+25 items, and other AMC items, gives very good defense against attacks though. The AMC on Orca shows this, wiz/taos barely hurt, even without a tiger necklace. The more items you add into the drops, the less likely the items you want to drop, will appear. Adding defense onto your kit, should sacrifice your attack.

As I mentioned, having slotted items on here, means you can get potentially +6 DC, and still add 3 of each defense (if you're ballsy enough). So your expel ring is now DC1-7 AMC0-7 AC0-3. AMC2-6 DC0-7 Gold Brace. That's pretty OP, and still using low tier items.

 

[Nizzles]

That means I have to mine for hours for gems to fail constantly. Could take years... And servers dead.

 

[Babyhack]

Maybe just an AC or AMC ring, no attack stats, there are AC braces already

Then players have a choice between a defense kit or attack kit

BH

 

[Fatosh]

op indeed

 

[Carribean]

But AB got a ninja nerf when Tash was hitting for 700...

Tash also had close to 130 DC. Which is 30% more than Niz's DC

I see no problem now, reverting AB back to how it was

haha funtimes

 

[Nizzles]

Arrow barrage still ****ed yet plenty is being altered with blizzard and met strike....

 

[Babyhack]

Arrow barrage still ****ed yet plenty is being altered with blizzard and met strike....

Relax its being looked into

BH

 

[Nizzles]

*relaxes* just bumping. don't want you to forget about it do I!?