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nice they look great what class they for is that colour shield for tao ??
 

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The shield thing is for TAO - although it looks like magic shield, the function is right for the skill..
 

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do they work with JoB files? very nice work if they do indeed.
 

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Well done m8
Your probably the first in europe to fix this Hehe
Grats m8
OBW make sure you dont give it to certian peeps who have held back information from day one.
No need to mention names Lol
 

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OBW make sure you dont give it to certian peeps who have held back information from day one.
No need to mention names Lol

sorry but thats funny explain how he can stop them from downloading if he releases Since he'd have to give a link out to let everyone else download it

Either you release or you dont simple as
 

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MiloFoxburr said:
sorry but thats funny explain how he can stop them from downloading if he releases Since he'd have to give a link out to let everyone else download it

Either you release or you dont simple as

Quite easy, do via msn

There is no doubt that certain peeps have withheld a lot of info from the start, and no matter how many times this was pointed out, everyone turned a blind eye.

So it is reasionable to assume, that these people who held back info, are not entitled to any help or info, on anything new we find.

What goes around comes around....
 
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n1 m8!
they look amazing
if a good server, fully translated with decent exp, with these spells in came out, i might go on a mir3 server :P
 

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ah so thats what they look like, wanted to try those out they look pretty nifty.
i could name a couple of people on here who like to hold back valuble stuff, but I wont.
 

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Quite easy, do via msn

There is no doubt that certain peeps have withheld a lot of info from the start, and no matter how many times this was pointed out, everyone turned a blind eye.

So it is reasionable to assume, that these people who held back info, are not entitled to any help or info, on anything new we find.

What goes around comes around....
Did it ever occur to you that its this attitude that stopped "Certain" people releasing in the first place?

The community is desolving, everyone is in it for either 5 minutes of fame or 5 minutes of flame.
 

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Did it occur to YOU that, thats how it all started....
Our attitude came about because, these selfish, glory hunting prats posted pictures of what they had achieved and refused to help when asked, they withheld progs very badly needed by this comunity.
If it was not for people like maulder/terrabyte and Kaori we would still be struggling.. ( A very big Thanks go to you two)
It can not be retracted now, we have a long memory of who withheld the progs and information, I for one will help anyone but there are certain names on my list who can go to hell.
 

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now now. do we really want to start this all over again. its everyones decission to release or not, most people on this forum would release, i think everyone knows how much this forum has suffered because of lack of sharing in the past. we dont need any more of it, we're not in a race. this is our community, and we shld make it as gd as we can.
 

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I wish to add that not every single person here is effected by this "im not sharing" disease currenlt sweeping the community and as in the past with 2.9 I never had any issues with helping out as many servers as possible in the effort to get a set of working files to allow the players (cos after all thats what its all about) to get a game thats as close to the real thing for free in effect.

Now to give at least two example of people who let greed take over them and now, weeks later how it has come back to bite them in the arse.....

The Mirx team (oooh scandel) - i suggested way back when we first started on the files that we shoudl work - get this - as a team to make a set of files that was mostly done. In other words pool the resources of the people who know what they are doing which would have cut the time required to churn through the files into days not weeks. Even back then though - greed came into play as people wanted to put a server up fast and why on earth would they share there work....
There was if you think about it- the perfect optionas there was a web site and so forth to enable this to happen, all that was needed was a bit of direction and somebody to control the stuff - sounds real easy to me....I started as above and worked away getting the mobs, stditems etc all done so we could move onto the NPCS and so forth....

What happened though was not quite the ideal setup you see me describe and now i see NotmeAgain asking for a team as he dont have the time or the will to carry on with this task in hand. If he/they had worked with me back then or during my translastion of 1652 files along with all the rest, he would have by now a set of files that was all english and at least 8+ quests worrks plus probably more ...

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Next up on the bench - Nightwolf (you knew this name would come up) - dare i list the constant withholding of anything and everything?? Yet is more than happy to take stuff and the post as if he wrote them? Hell why not....

First set of Server files, used Encrytion - we could not do mapinfo, he had a program to generate it - would he pass it out to us lot (the team he was on) - nope - he offered a service were people sent files and he would do them - errr - mapinfo can change a lot esp once we start to add maps or find little bugs etc... It was with this annoyance that i went off and found before it was even publicy posted on the chinese forums (still not really publiccy posted tbh) GT Server pro. Thats a server that does not use Encrytion - i posted this on MSRF site at furst to allow us to carry on with out task - then i see he posted on here "Another server I Found" - you found??? - grrrr....

I wont list the rest of the stuff as it will go on too long - latest one is he has a exe which uses a smaller font - obiously hexed - i asked for this so i could find the hex and publish it - so everybody can reduce there font size and I can carry on working with other stuff (as above) but still to this day the words ring out.....

"My mate wrote it and told me not to release it.."

I dont see this sharing in operation - I have posted Utils, hex codes and passed on via MSN complete sets of files to people or via my forum. Sorry for the long rant (again) but from my eyes - people only start to help/share when they start to see others push out something they are after - I said it back on MSRF - this Greed of there will come back to bite them on the arse - and i was not wrong..
 

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howie said:
Quite easy, do via msn

There is no doubt that certain peeps have withheld a lot of info from the start, and no matter how many times this was pointed out, everyone turned a blind eye.

So it is reasionable to assume, that these people who held back info, are not entitled to any help or info, on anything new we find.

What goes around comes around....

Once again they'll still fall into the wrong hands or not reach everyone

You want the community to have em but not a select few so how do you reach the community via msn you cant so instead your doing the excat same thing as the people you want to not get these files

Like i said either you release to everyone or not at all Releasing to people on msn is the excat same thing as not releasing @ all simple as Why? because not everyone will get thus the community in general wont get em

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I dont see this sharing in operation - I have posted Utils, hex codes and passed on via MSN complete sets of files to people or via my forum. Sorry for the long rant (again) but from my eyes - people only start to help/share when they start to see others push out something they are after - I said it back on MSRF - this Greed of there will come back to bite them on the arse - and i was not wrong..

Demonic i respect you quite alot because of what you've done with the 2.9 files and indeed the JOB files but i still feel that what your doing now (Releasing to a few on msn and your own forum(Which i assume is private?)) is the excat same thing as say nightwolf

Im sure nightwolf released to a few of his friends etc which is what your doing right now

Not saying your greedy or nothing because your not But your anger @ a select few is causing you not to release to everyone and that makes you as bad as the people your angry at
 
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Bah i was just about to say that Milo lol, as he said those people could just make a new msn, or ask someone else to get them for them. Now would you just stop argueing its Dem's release and if he wants everyone to get it, then they will.

/Miles
 

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Not all the skills added yet - so pointless pushing em out - my forum is not private, open to all as it goes... I agree there is anger and i can see it in my posts - ill take a breather to clear my head i think then come back and push some stuff out...I am hoping by then people have done more with the files, by which i mean NPCS and so forth so they are ready to add in new stuff. I feel maybe people are neglecting the basics in favour of eve candy. My NPCS although they are all english def need more work to get the english right and the names it tell you to go to for quests right..

So no fear - all will come - there is no rush for these spells just yet - there high level spells anyhow and i will soon add more - might as well get as many done as possible really,..
 

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Demonic said:
Not all the skills added yet - so pointless pushing em out - my forum is not private, open to all as it goes... I agree there is anger and i can see it in my posts - ill take a breather to clear my head i think then come back and push some stuff out...I am hoping by then people have done more with the files, by which i mean NPCS and so forth so they are ready to add in new stuff. I feel maybe people are neglecting the basics in favour of eve candy. My NPCS although they are all english def need more work to get the english right and the names it tell you to go to for quests right..

So no fear - all will come - there is no rush for these spells just yet - there high level spells anyhow and i will soon add more - might as well get as many done as possible really,..

Demonic your forum aint private right? Its just ive never seen it been posted on lomcn maybe i missed it or something

Your right NPC's are the most important part no point having new skills if the npcs are all chinese

Of course theres no rush theres no harm showing off with the intention of releasing later Hell i do it with some of the mir2 stuff i find

However it was Howies attitude that annoyed me more "The release to a few attitude" Its stupid and helps no one @ all
 

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Well i did not feel it right to add my forum on my sig as that to me is advertising - Ive added to my profile and people found it - so not intentionally private in that sense. I post much the same anyhow on here over time as i find stuff so your not missing much to be honest. It served back then (when we first ahd the files) as a way to restirct the dev of the stuff initially so we could iron out the crap and then I opened the section to all that comes along.

I have said and it still stands (most know this), i dont really want to run a public server along with all the hassles that come with that - I ran one before, which was good i think but i much preffer to push forward the envelope as it were on whats possible on mir3, then other people can run and dedicate there time to providing a server for other people to play on while i get on with more stuff in the background. Once i have tweaked the NPCS so that more quests works etc - then ill push out the files so people can start to get servers online and tweak them so even more works...

Actually - its the people who are both developing and putting a server online that want to hold back - understably as they want there server to be better which is wierd if you think about it - as nobody makes any money from this - so who cares?