patch 0.9b

[stephens_l]

FW plays a crucial role in this. You shouldn't be able to kill a warr who's running and potting just by just FD's. However if u stay behind ur fw's and make him charge in to get u, this will change I assure u. Obv as a wizzard, you should be higher lvl than most warriors u're fighting, which in this particular case, you're not. So idk if it's wise to say that a lower lvl/kitted wizzard should be able to kill a higher warrior that is not a complete n00b at playing the game.
It's even an unwritten rule of pvp between wiz and any melee class, where the wizz should only cast 1 fw for obv reasons.
But no1's stopping you to place more thn enough fw's just to make sure.

No one's disputing that mate. As I posted above I use FW and FD.

As I also mentioned I used the same tactics against Casper and Tango who are of similar level to me. Both sins and the main difference between the two was skill.

Casper landed many more hits on me due to the tactics I mentioned above. Tango just RTed or TTed when I got a multiple streak of ranged hits and fw on him. The main reason was due to the fact he didn't use his escape skills / move his char in the same way tha5 Casper did, not because there was anything wrong with FD or my overall damage.

I have only killed tango once, Why? Because the first time he attacked me in PB he charged in without any rts or tts in bag (prob assuming he could just floor me with flinch in a few hits), when I got a series of hits in due to decent aim he Just didn't have the skill to escape like Casper has. Subsequently, I haven't been able to kill him since because he just rts when I get a good streak in / if he doesn't manage to catch me.

What they seem to want is the damage to be lowered to the exent where they dont have to worry about dying so can spend more time on the attack rather than figuring out how to avoid / attack/ avoid / attack. (In my opinon).

 

[WelshSteel]

As for your point that I should take 5 pets that are slow as **** and take at least 40 mins to get from fox cave and another 40 plus mins to level (but can be easily avoided or killed by someone like TD in 2 or 3 hits each?).

This alone is more than enough evidence to show you aren't bothering to maximise your potential in a 1v1 scenerio, lets for now forget the fact that the guilds usually with the most active wizards are the most dominant, for obvious fricking reasons. You're playing an mmo, sit down.

 

[Binary]

[video]https://streamable.com/1fodq[/video]

Holy moly! Is that warrior in a decent kit?

I still cant believe of all the positive changed we made this is the main topic :P

-Apocalypse Team

I really do pity server owners.
Hey, we changed a bunch of **** people complained about. Oh ****, even more complaints.

 

[stephens_l]

This alone is more than enough evidence to show you aren't bothering to maximise your potential in a 1v1 scenerio, lets for now forget the fact that the guilds usually with the most active wizards are the most dominant, for obvious fricking reasons. You're playing an mmo, sit down.

This alone is proof you haven't read the thread properly. You are just shouting off your mouth. Being a block head right..?

Levelled up red frogs can be killed in two or three hits by someone like TD, tango or Casper...

Why would I spend that long getting them for next to zero effect in PVP. Especially when they are slow as **** to boot.

Before you pipe up about Vamp, i said before if that's how vamp is then it should be nerfed. Why haven't I tried it? Purely cos of the fact kori in our guild said that when he tested it..it was rubbish.

Just for arguments sake, let's say I use this in a PVP. How exactly will standing still vamping a warr or sin for stupid regen help me win a PVP?

Not to mention we can't see either of their gear. Your comment only proves that you are a bit dense and not actually reading what has been wrote, rather than just throwing insults with nothing to back them up.

Anyway, that's the only reason i didnt "maximise my potential" as you put it. I have used and levelled every other wiz pvp spell up to 39.

I suggest that you sit down instead.. Gobby bugger. Lol.

 

[FNG]

stupid killerman, try play archer see if u have auto atak. where people run around ur auto attak miss all the time and the damage is so **** .. so stop talking ****. look at the ranking . u can see archer top 20 are like lvl 33 and other class top 20 are all lvl 40

 

[<SOSO>]

Holy moly! Is that warrior in a decent kit?

Yes Binary, all kit used by both players. No sun pots were used also as u can see, only medium pots (on auto-pot).

 

[Aries]

A lot of drama Over 1 spell that was slightly over powered. a ranged spell should not be hitting as hard as it was (damage compared to average health pool), a sin would take 3 hits from a wizz to die unless spamming suns. people like to talk about balance but often forget there are other classes apart from their own.

Over all from what i've seen the classes seem to be getting more balanced.

 

[good]

legend of of wizzards

 

[Drakay]

[video]https://streamable.com/1fodq[/video]

This is concerning!

Toe to toe, 9x TDB’s and I’m sure tiggy runs about 70-75DC, yet it took 8 hits before the wiz even went below half HP.

 

[deano13]

This is concerning!

Toe to toe, 9x TDB’s and I’m sure tiggy runs about 70-75DC, yet it took 8 hits before the wiz even went below half HP.

And yet wiz are weak xD

 

[MuRkDRaZ2018]

And ppl say tdb is fine?

 

[ibby]

Wizzies in melee pvp is fine, firewall and FD is your main, the only reason why you find it so hard is due to them spamming sun pots, guarantee this as every pvp I come across on sin or wiz, they have a full bag of suns or some ****, suns op need a cool down, then you’ll see ppl die more

 

[LightBringer]

Kudos on the changes if they work.

I really like the 3 wide bridge on OmaCave (is that the only change to the map?)

 

[Koriban]

Just gnna be honest here.

FD is probably too strong still, and Lightning still too weak. Swap these two, done. Everything else seems fine besides both Tstorm and FlameField. These spells are hitting 20's to 30's, I just FlameField an oma and it lived. FF especially appears to be not working properly, not taking base MC into account, idk. Look into it please. I'd be fine with every spell nerfed into the ground so long as FF is decent.

Additionally I think changing winged omas this late into the game is a devastating change that needs reverting. I and every other wizz (let alone other classes) have benefitted so much from only having to deal with Crossbows. To change this now is a massive piss take to those who've just reached or just beginning their PB grind. Had it changed day 1, we'd have been fine. Too late to change this now. The top tier wizzies don't even go there anymore to level as there's better places, give the casuals their hunting grounds back.

As for suns, they do not need a cooldown or PvE content becomes a farce and un enjoyable completely. What needs to happen is a limit set to how many you can carry in your bag, period. Make it 10, 15, 20, whatever. This stops people from taking bags of suns and never dying.

 

[dannyiiii]

I'm a level 38 wiz and how any other wiz can sit here n say we do no damage and die too easily is beyond me. as soon as you get shield it's game changing.

Vamp needs removing in PvP, Sunnies need a 2 sec cool down. any wiz that disagrees with this is purely a cry bitch n ain't used to low rate wizzys.

Winged Omas defo need reverting back. tomany gained piss levels here, unfair on new comers or casual players.

as for everything else, decent work keep it up.

 

[stephens_l]

It only seems like drama bcos I was biting back against people throwing insults because my (and a few others) opinion was different to theirs.

I'm happy for everyone to disagree, a forum is for discussion and for people to air their views but don't throw hate just because someone's view is different to yours. Ultimately, if people come with facts, figures and evidence I'm sure the server owners will take that on board.

 

[stoner123]

This is concerning!

Toe to toe, 9x TDB’s and I’m sure tiggy runs about 70-75DC, yet it took 8 hits before the wiz even went below half HP.

i would love to hear a GM's opinion on this... @xx69xx?

 

[Jambo]

I think the GM's are doing a good job with balance but to change winged omas now is crazy. revert it please..

 

[Veora]

What's the damage difference between a sin and a warr in the same gear? I know sins output way more damage but haven't seen any data on how big the damage gap is between warrs.

 

[Xx69xX]

i would love to hear a GM's opinion on this... @xx69xx?

my opinion is, we need to change this. Not because a warrior should smash a wiz, but because TDB should be cutting through shield at least 1 of the two hits.

This needs to be looked at, as a wizard shield up or not, should not able to tank a warrior/sin, they should survive with shield up but not toe to toe. The flip side, did lots of testing and as soon as the dc increases on a warrior (not by thats much either) it does really make a difference, so its a fine balancing act we will work on asap.

-Apocalypse Team