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simon01

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Dear gm,s since the sums has come in game y is it all ppl in game, after add them up every time we hit town this is silly since the wiz class cant do much. since it pops up more then 1 time. a wiz in my guild is having problems with it and cant do much she has had this happen 5x so far and its getting on a joke is there any way this could be fixed i no its stop bots but having all ppl do it in game at any level is bad.
 

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The maths questions only pop up on low level maps and in all safe zones and shops

They pop up on leaving safezone (once)
On using a shops (once)

On item pick up (low level maps)

The item pick up questions are a lot simpler then the safe zone ones

What map are you having them pop up on?

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simon01

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im not sure where she hunts but y dident you just add it for low level ppl and not ppl ho ar 38+
 

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All advice related to this is taken on board and we can always edit the system

This is the first run of the system and of course it will need changes and updates

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Samuel

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I am intrigued to know what question it is you are having issues answering?

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Every item pick up is a bit much like maybe 1/5 not every single one. New players going to be scared off by this.
 

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Getting same thing, don't mind the sums question as I log on, but im getting it as I am in numa hunting had it maybe 6-8 whilst there

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How does it work, exactly?

If people fail to answer or answer wrong, do you get a list of these people? Obviously not everyone who answers wrong or fails to provide an answer is a bot, but it helps give you an idea of who is and isn't a bot.

Maybe make it so it doesn't appear as much like d1craig says, new players will get slightly annoyed if it pops up every time they go to pick something up (I feel for them after killing an OmaWarrior!)

Take it off all together for 40+? Surely there's not that many people stupid enough to get to level40 and then bot.
 

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How does it work, exactly?

If people fail to answer or answer wrong, do you get a list of these people? Obviously not everyone who answers wrong or fails to provide an answer is a bot, but it helps give you an idea of who is and isn't a bot.

Maybe make it so it doesn't appear as much like d1craig says, new players will get slightly annoyed if it pops up every time they go to pick something up (I feel for them after killing an OmaWarrior!)

Take it off all together for 40+? Surely there's not that many people stupid enough to get to level40 and then bot.

this
 

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How does it work, exactly?

If people fail to answer or answer wrong, do you get a list of these people? Obviously not everyone who answers wrong or fails to provide an answer is a bot, but it helps give you an idea of who is and isn't a bot.

Maybe make it so it doesn't appear as much like d1craig says, new players will get slightly annoyed if it pops up every time they go to pick something up (I feel for them after killing an OmaWarrior!)

Take it off all together for 40+? Surely there's not that many people stupid enough to get to level40 and then bot.

If a player gets the question wrong 3 times or fails to answer within a set time they get kicked from the server.

Once a player has answered the question the will not get another question for 30+ minutes (we will prob extend this)

The item pick up questions are only on low level maps and again once answered will not appear again for 30+ minutes
The item pick up questions are simply single digit maths questions (0+0), (5+1) etc so players should be able to answer these fast enough to not cause an issue.

This is a system that was added to stop the bots and we are still working out the kinks with it, feedback like this is a great help and will will adjust the system to make it easier for players while still hopefully making it pointless for the bots

BH
 

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If a player gets the question wrong 3 times or fails to answer within a set time they get kicked from the server.

Once a player has answered the question the will not get another question for 30+ minutes (we will prob extend this)

The item pick up questions are only on low level maps and again once answered will not appear again for 30+ minutes
The item pick up questions are simply single digit maths questions (0+0), (5+1) etc so players should be able to answer these fast enough to not cause an issue.

This is a system that was added to stop the bots and we are still working out the kinks with it, feedback like this is a great help and will will adjust the system to make it easier for players while still hopefully making it pointless for the bots

BH
Cheers for the swift reply.

Great idea, and like you say, with a few changes here and there, it should work well.
 

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Cheers for the swift reply.

Great idea, and like you say, with a few changes here and there, it should work well.

I banned a level 43 bot last week, confirmed bot too as I kept recalling them and they would just run to the nearest monster and attack it. Normal players would just moan about being recalled.

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Samuel

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I've heard Skibadee has been stuck in safezone for 3 hours.

Lol, I do hope this is due to a bug in the code and not an inability to answer the questions.

I agree that being spammed with this will put people off and we really should make longer periods of time (twice a day wouldn't be unrealisitic in my opinion).

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Lol, I do hope this is due to a bug in the code and not an inability to answer the questions.


Sam

All of TKO are having a pub quiz style game on Team speak to try and solve them all, they think it's a great event and want to know what the prize is for getting them all right.
 

CrazyBear...

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All of TKO are having a pub quiz style game on Team speak to try and solve them all, they think it's a great event and want to know what the prize is for getting them all right.
It's Winters i'm most concerned for, this guy will be stuck in SZ forever
 

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All advice related to this is taken on board and we can always edit the system

Okay. To start.

It's a terrible authentication system and if you think it will stop bots you are sadly mistaken. The only thing you are achieving is annoying current players and putting off new ones.

I'm sorry if i sound rude but I simply don't understand what you are thinking. Computers can do maths too.
 

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Okay. To start.

It's a terrible authentication system and if you think it will stop bots you are sadly mistaken. The only thing you are achieving is annoying current players and putting off new ones.

I'm sorry if i sound rude but I simply don't understand what you are thinking. Computers can do maths too.

Computers can do maths yes, but bots can not read the text of an image loaded within a game :P
Bots can also not type an answer
The fact that there are no bots being reported by players or the system proves that that system is working

BH
 

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Okay. To start.

It's a terrible authentication system and if you think it will stop bots you are sadly mistaken. The only thing you are achieving is annoying current players and putting off new ones.

I'm sorry if i sound rude but I simply don't understand what you are thinking. Computers can do maths too.

It's an added complexity that will stop bots for an unknown period of time. It's also something that can be consistently updated and improved annoying the bot makers each time. From what I understand it was an easy enough feature to add by the new developer so if and when it's needed it'll be updated.

It'll be tweaked to minimise impact to players (as it should impact them as little as possible) and it's better than doing nothing

-edit- Just to add in my opinion automated systems like this and other bot detection systems are the only way to prevent bots on a Private Server. They don't have the ability to hire teams of observers to catch people botting manually so automated systems must be developed. It's version 1 of a system that will improved and that can only been seen as a good thing
 
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