Important Reboot today at 1:30PM - various balance changes

GimmeAKitKat

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As much as all this is flattering, unless you can actually provide examples ozzie its a bit pointless. To my knowledge, ive not 1 hit any high level wizzies through shield recently. Trust me, id remember. And which better kitted warriors have i floored recently? Genuinely curious as again i'd remember this.

I don't want to get into a anything further specifically on you, but there are plenty of high end warriors like Woodie, Mirtiger etc who I regularly watch go toe to toe with you and see them swinging their full ranges between 20-30's and 200's, where you always seem to hit 100's+ with a luck 1 Weapon, and I know personally theres just no point in me being on the same screen as you, iv never took a hit from you and not lost upwards of 2-3-400 hp or more. Im not trying to imply outright that you cheat, it may be a side effect of your ping which not only seems to be low but often seems to be in the minus's. Ping needs capping.

Like I said though, the point is that you are far from the standard warrior in anyones estimation, and constantly using you as the only example of warriors damage and survivability is nonsense, and often leads to **** updates going wrong. As it does when Inoob is used as your sin counterpart , Lkira as the wizzy etc. using the top 1% is retarded.
 

kickey

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so sins hitting true speed 8 is not a bug, why is this being changed? if the issue was stun lock why not just fix that...
sins have been bugged for 15months with aspeed7... 15months!

people are complaining about recent nerfs, sins have been under a constant nerf for 15 months...

p.s Tai piss off.

It's not often i argee with...well this cry baby.

But...there is and always will be a first time for everything!

This should have been left how it is.

imo Very poor work from the GM's, anything else that has been added to the game was ALWAYS been given atleast a few weeks to try it out.

If it failed it got removed or adjusted.

Again very poor work.

I think I mentioned earlier that fixing the stun lock would take longer than we'd like. This is a temporary revert of key (and in our opinion necessary) changes purely so the server can continue as it has while we go back to the drawing board and get it right. We don't believe keeping the changes as is would be beneficial for the server in general.

any ETA on when this gonna be sorted? this month ,next month , 3 months time ?
 

ILovePie:D

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How is BackStab it is not OP 1 hiting ppl ??? u fking bellend u only cry cos u jump on wiz and thei cast Blizz on them and un TT(die) u daft****

Backstab isn't ingame yet, so we're unable to comment.
 

NewHope

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They tried something, it didn't work. Instead of bringing them down for trying to make the game play better for everyone overall how about putting forward suggestions.

Spell delays would be good.
Shoulderdash is a good one, i remember Depress being able to continuously SD you until you died from being unable to move.
This was about 7 months ago, has this been resolved?

Resource costs increased, especially on Wizard spells.
I've seen some wizards become gods with FF, perhaps a % of Max Mana use rather than Xmp would be good.
Same with other powerful spells for all classes?
 

ziiid

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Hi all,

As you all know yesterday reboot changed some things pretty drastically. The changes when combined don't make for an experience we expected.

So we're making the following changes for now

- FlameField Damage Calc reverted
- ASpeed changes for classes reverted
- DoubleSlash animation slowed down a little to prevent it flinch locking (It's still faster than pre yesterdays update)

We'll go back to the drawing board on some of these as we continue to tweak and balance the game

Thanks for your patience, reboot will take 5-10 minutes and you will need a new client from patcher

Cheers,
Milo

-edit- Corrected time for reboot

Since Sins were speed 6 before will they be approx speed 7 after this reboot? Am I reading it right that you intend it to be speed 8 but you need to fix flinching first? Curious though why this is such a huge deal? When you have warriors and Wizards that 1 hit people (zero counter play) and somehow this is a problem. Nice to see you will revert the changes back to Wiz (the second tankiest class in game) able to 1 hit groups of people and warriors (the tankiest class in game) will continue to out dps sins and 1 hit people. Well done this makes a lot of sense.

If your gonna keep sins continuously can you look at fixing flash dash and dark body... have not broken skills may help.
 

ziiid

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And it is not OP u ****head?

Err Wizards stand on the other side of the screen and do the same thing??

Archers can jump and arrow barrage you for 700damage in 1 hit??

Warriors can dash you get a stun and also 1 hit you??

What version of Mir do you play?
 

CantTouchThis

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I do understand your frustration ozzie. Believe it or not i do hit **** plenty of the time - one minute i'll hit 200+ hits three times in a row, then i'll hit 20s and 30s for four hits, then a 380 FS. I have also been on the receiving end of what youre talking about - cnmortal has done the same to me with luck1 and it does look odd.

I also agree about using the top 1% from each class, but at the same time its necessary to counter the arguments about warriors, because they too focus on the top few %. I do also think a huge part of the problem is that there arent many top-tier sins at the moment, ie lvl 48-50 in hundreds of millions worth of kit, whereas there are quite a few warriors (mirtiger, alfiee, citrix, ivegotaWoodie) that instantly spring to mind who have got awesome kits.
 

Corbu

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Err Wizards stand on the other side of the screen and do the same thing??

Archers can jump and arrow barrage you for 700damage in 1 hit??

Warriors can dash you get a stun and also 1 hit you??




If u TeamOfShit(Exploiters) can moan an cry on form so wizz get nerf so can i.

CD on dash let wizz have BDA longer CD on SS nerf FS and TDB(on sin to).
 

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Err Wizards stand on the other side of the screen and do the same thing??

Archers can jump and arrow barrage you for 700damage in 1 hit??

Warriors can dash you get a stun and also 1 hit you??

What version of Mir do you play?

Actualy it's pretty hard and you need a lot of luck and skill to jump next to your target and AB


PS: after you jumped with decoy you cant hit for 1 or 1.5 seconds , you have to be stupid to stay still for 2 seconds when you fight ,for an archer to jump near you and do that be a bit more serious please :)
 

MoeSart

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Jesus people on here are such drama queens, and any attempt at creative input seem to be people wanting massive boosts or ridiculous nerfs to skills. Only minor adjustments need to be made. The rest is how good you are at your class
The reason you are getting owned by People of said classes is because they are better at their class than you are at yours, or they have a much better kit, or both. Maybe use the time you'd be complaining to figure out how best to counteract their methods?
Theres definately people around, not complaining, who have managed it. So have a go yourself.

Intended as a happy suggestion, nothing else
 

noisound

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Jesus people on here are such drama queens, and any attempt at creative input seem to be people wanting massive boosts or ridiculous nerfs to skills. Only minor adjustments need to be made. The rest is how good you are at your class
The reason you are getting owned by People of said classes is because they are better at their class than you are at yours, or they have a much better kit, or both. Maybe use the time you'd be complaining to figure out how best to counteract their methods?
Theres definately people around, not complaining, who have managed it. So have a go yourself.

Intended as a happy suggestion, nothing else


Finally someone understands.