[Suggestions] the real issues with warriors?

[WhiteTiger]

It's not only wiz tho isit? Taos are levelling alot faster then wars also, this was never the case, a Tao would ask a wiz or war to pair up and lvl, but on here wiz can lvl solo fast, Taos can lvl np just as fast, wars can... Oh wait not level as fast... You only have to look at the rankings to see this..

Stop beating on Taos levelling a tao solo is a killer....... you've obviously never tried it for yourself. All the taos who are high level have always been hunting with a wiz/war and are always on. Just maybe some of these people you see who are high levels put a massive effort in and that's why they are high levels.

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DeadGirl has a luck 6 WSB

oh so we have 1 reported case of a luck6 warrior wep. Compared to 30+ wiz weps and 20+ taos weps.

 

[deano13]

Stop beating on Taos levelling a tao solo is a killer....... you've obviously never tried it for yourself. All the taos who are high level have always been hunting with a wiz/war and are always on. Just maybe some of these people you see who are high levels put a massive effort in and that's why they are high levels.

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oh so we have 1 reported case of a luck6 warrior wep. Compared to 30+ wiz weps and 20+ taos weps.

Luring aload of mobs and running around in a circle is hardly a killer.. And with high sc/luck7 it's a piece of piss to kill massive amounts of mobs with PC.

And I'm not beating on Taos, it's just annoying that both casters on here have it so easy with all they adjustments they got, and the warrior class is still just left baisic plan old boring class it is with nothing great going for it.

 

[FUTURA]

Also bear in mind leveling with a warr doesnt benefit a tao or a wiz...wiz+wiz level faster, and wiz and tao level faster and both complement each other alot..usually a war and tao would partner up and still can do but a tao + wiz will level so much faster.

 

[deano13]

Also bear in mind leveling with a warr doesnt benefit a tao or a wiz...wiz+wiz level faster, and wiz and tao level faster and both complement each other alot..usually a war and tao would partner up and still can do but a tao + wiz will level so much faster.

Exactly this, the warrior is an unneeded class when it comes to levelling, wiz+wiz awsome loads of mobs, wiz+Tao awsome loads of mobs, Tao+Tao awsome both with PC, what good is a war to both mass aoe'in classes? What wiz or Tao is gna wanna level with a war killing 1by1? Or waiting for a lure when they can just lure and kill alot faster together

 

[d1craig]

How about instead of a magic party for warriors we have a reflect. Obviously this should work like slaying just abit more often I think.

 

[Skyline]

Also bear in mind leveling with a warr doesnt benefit a tao or a wiz...wiz+wiz level faster, and wiz and tao level faster and both complement each other alot..usually a war and tao would partner up and still can do but a tao + wiz will level so much faster.

This is because back in the day, it was great to have a warrior with the wizzies to do all the luring.

Now days they don't need anyone to lure as they can do it themselves, lol.

 

[Andeh]

I think certain people are over-estimating the usefulness of PC at lvl 1. it's really not that useful until it's lvl 3.

 

[Reverance]

I think certain people are over-estimating the usefulness of PC at lvl 1. it's really not that useful until it's lvl 3.

Massively, even Lvl 2 is pretty **** with the lengthy CD and Completely insanely random damage.

 

[Turrican]

I think certain people are over-estimating the usefulness of PC at lvl 1. it's really not that useful until it's lvl 3.

this, lvl 1 is poop, lvl 2 isnt great, unless u stacking luck +5-7.

the reason you all see tao lvling with PC is because pc is the only viable way for tao to do dmg, sfb is poo and with pets not scaling they deal next to no damage.

 

[Aldor]

IMO the problem with Warriors in PvP is that pretty much every skill either doesn't work or is useless. We have 2 skills to use (TDB and FS) and we only use TDB because FS is on CD. I guess Rage is useful too but it's too rare to even mention. In PvE the issue is we can't tank as well as a Wizard so we're pretty much useless against most bosses in small groups.

There's only 3 changes I'd like to see to improve the Warrior without making it OP:
1: Entrapment - Make it work in PvP (without the para function). We had Beckon in Mir3 which didn't cause any issues.
2: ProtectField - Needs to buff more AC and also grant AMC. It's shocking that a warrior is probably the worst tanking class in PvP and PvE.
3: TwinDrakeBlade - Needs to use slightly less MP, I feel embarrassed asking wizards to drop me MP pots half way through a hunt.

If it's true Assassins might be introduced soon I'd be interested in seeing what skills they get. Having been one for years in Mir 3 I know they can make the Warrior much more useful in PvP at-least. eg: I used to grip opponents to the floor while our Warriors jumped on them and ganked them.

/Aldor (level 46 Warrior after 2 weeks, still resisting the urge to re-roll Wizard so I can PvP and kill bosses).

Edit: Also being at war with my opponent makes PvP so much harder. Having my char "lock-on" to SonOfaDog only helps him. Whereas with shift-click I can run circles around him <3. I'd love an option to turn this function off.

 

[WhiteTiger]

I think certain people are over-estimating the usefulness of PC at lvl 1. it's really not that useful until it's lvl 3.

Totally agree with this.... It takes ages to kill a spawn of vipers with PC.. ive got 74sc luck6... Sometimes PC doesn't even hit and it lasts for what 3-4seconds?.... Finally somebody posting other than a warrior with blinkers on.

 

[PackardBell]

Easy for you to say :P what about us poor folk who dont have 10,000 dc haha :P

i was same as you mate, is about how much you want it or not.......i think you have PC + NET + 2 HANDS as me....... so what stops you?

So what about your post about wiz/tao being way OP? Now your here saying wars are fine, make your mind up, and like some1 alrdy say not all of us run around in 100+DC with high luck..

get it right plz, war is fine, is the wiz/tao who to be abit changed so they cant hit wars when they dash or PURE RUN

thing u not got the super speeds on this server to reach wiz/taos and kill them fast doesnt mean wars are wrong

 

[DeadGirl]

The only real issue for me is because mobs are so quick on here and flinch less than other servers it means us warrs take more damage then normal. Thus making it harder to level solo especially in places such as vipers.

Saying that, I'm level45 and I'm a really slow leveller so it can't be all that hard to level a warrior.

This, but still going to say again, leveling a warrior is easy until 47/48. It's not untill i hit 48 that i can't be assed leveling anymore. (still am now and again, need to get 50) Feel sorry for any wars who feel leveling is hard 43+ XD.

DeadGirl has a luck 6 WSB

Indeed, going for 7 today/tomorrow . I thought i heard someone else say in game they had a +6 wsb? May be wrong though.

 

[Skyline]

There's a Luck7 DSword, few luck 5 Maces (One which took me about 7 benes) and think I've seen one +5 WSB.

 

[Easie]

wish it was that easy for a wiz still stuck on +3

 

[Kai]

i was same as you mate, is about how much you want it or not.......i think you have PC + NET + 2 HANDS as me....... so what stops you?

No offense but simple statistics shows that your gear is at the 100th percentile, which means that your 'war is fine' viewpoint is irrelevant to any proper decision making process.

And lets be reasonable here, why are you calling out someone when every server you have had the 100th percentile gear...There is no secret to why you have the gear. Please be reasonable its a big picture thread.

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There's a Luck7 DSword, few luck 5 Maces (One which took me about 7 benes) and think I've seen one +5 WSB.

Lots of +5, and I think I know of three +6's now since we are talking on this thread. But they do have a point still, there are piles of luck 7 weapons only a few tao (I believe) and lots of wiz. No idea why though, seems odd. Used piles of bene's myself and still luck 5.

 

[DeadGirl]

No offense but simple statistics shows that your gear is at the 100th percentile, which means that your 'war is fine' viewpoint is irrelevant to any proper decision making process.

And lets be reasonable here, why are you calling out someone when every server you have had the 100th percentile gear...There is no secret to why you have the gear. Please be reasonable its a big picture thread.

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Lots of +5, and I think I know of three +6's now since we are talking on this thread. But they do have a point still, there are piles of luck 7 weapons only a few tao (I believe) and lots of wiz. No idea why though, seems odd. Used piles of bene's myself and still luck 5.

Just luck i think, used 18 to get from 4 to 6 (but i cursed 3 times in a row on 4, not long before that)

 

[Kai]

Just luck i think, used 18 to get from 4 to 6 (but i cursed 3 times in a row on 4, not long before that)

Share some luck tbh :P

 

[demonical]

My opinion is warrs are fine except in pvp against ranged classes. The fact u pretty much hit everytime with spells against a running target along with pets that hit and move much faster then an official server makes it near impossible to fight 1. Also u only need to take 2 steps before u can run instead of the usual 4 makes it worse for warrior. Unless its been changed since I last played these were the only thing that bugged me.

Regarding the luck I have heard that luck chances have been effected by the dc the wep has on some private servers meaning wizz has a lot higher success then a warr. wether this is the same on here I dnt know it could just be bollocks tho.

 

[deano13]

It's been said over and over sort the spell lock bug. That'll be a good start when it comes to pvp, only way to hit and stop a running war should be an AOE skill, once landed and you've stopped the war from running should you be able if lucky to land single target skills, but then not lock once hit, same process once wars has dashed/started running