TDB not piercing defence anymore?

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Bug or permanent?
My Dc7-7 Acc+8 gear is hitting for like 1 damage or 0 damage on zuma? and wizzies with shields up?

Shouldnt it be doing 7+7???

Is this going to be the permanent state of TDB? No more defence pierce?
 

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I just think it's a problem with minimum DC, always hitting below mine.
 

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Yeah I'm hitting real low amounts no matter what kit I use. Roll on sin tbh
 

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As usual war posts get ignored, expect a nerf or summin on TDB today and a buff for wizzies yet again
 

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As usual war posts get ignored, expect a nerf or summin on TDB today and a buff for wizzies yet again

+1

I herd wizzies getting 3 clones to summon now and have 10 pets becoz there underpowered, also TDB hits to hard becoz afew ppl have 100 dc and can 2 hit a wiz, TDB needs a nerf
 

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Team?
Any reply?

Its not a moan thread, just a question ^_^ people want to make informed decisions about what character to play :)
 

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I recently started playing a wiz, and was pvp a war last night n was expecting to be dropped in 2/3 hits with shield up. Was shocked when I wasn't. I always thought tdb broke shield n did damage. I wouldnt mind if I was dropped with 2 hits after all wizzies are weak imo it should be possible to be dropped in couple hits with shield up against a war with tdb
 

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Bump for information?

Is the removal of the armour piercing aspect of TDB permanent?

Warrior will be redundant. only advantage warrior has over Sin is TDB (armour pierce) and Dash (Escape).

Please advise?
 

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All skills are been looked into. We have been busy these past few days looking into the skills that people have reported with issues, this includes TDB.
 

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All skills are been looked into. We have been busy these past few days looking into the skills that people have reported with issues, this includes TDB.

Stop mr politician, you didnt answer my question, you spoke about something else, lol.

But do you intend for TDB to be penetrating defence?
IS IT INTENDED for TDB to penetrate defence?

Its a very specific question that each individual member of the team can personally answer without referencing a future date.
Its a question that can be answered with a simple YES or NO.

Deano, I know your big on pushing for TDB to do the "proper" damage it should. But the best question to ask is in regards to defence penetration, because that is the aspect which they intentionally removed with that revision a few weeks back and I find it quite interesting that was the only part of the patch which was not mentioned in the patch notes.
 

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We intend on making TDB work the same as it did on Euro.

Make of that what you will.
 

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We intend on making TDB work the same as it did on Euro.

Make of that what you will.

Thought Sam didn't want it like euro because it was "Overpowered".

Just a quick question though, how do you plan on balencing classes when you are focusing on different versions of Mir? You said TDB was from Phili source which was wemades which assume is the KR version? then you go copying euro on other sutff and at the same time you are introducing Shanda features like Archer? How is this going to work lol.
 
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Thought Sam didn't want it like euro because it was "Overpowered".

Just a quick question though, how do you plan on balencing classes when you are focusing on different versions of Mir? You said TDB was from Phili source which was wemades which assume is the KR version? then you go copying euro on other sutff and at the same time you are introducing Shanda features like Archer? How is this going to work lol.

I guess that's why we are here.

Testing these classes and changes in a live environment to provide feedback.
 

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Thought Sam didn't want it like euro because it was "Overpowered".

Just a quick question though, how do you plan on balencing classes when you are focusing on different versions of Mir? You said TDB was from Phili source which was wemades which assume is the KR version? then you go copying euro on other sutff and at the same time you are introducing Shanda features like Archer? How is this going to work lol.
We will look at making things as balanced as we can.

Feedback from you lot as to what needs changing and why is always good. But when people say "****ing change FF it's ****ing ****" ect, that doesn't really give us much info :P
 

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Thought Sam didn't want it like euro because it was "Overpowered".

Just a quick question though, how do you plan on balencing classes when you are focusing on different versions of Mir? You said TDB was from Phili source which was wemades which assume is the KR version? then you go copying euro on other sutff and at the same time you are introducing Shanda features like Archer? How is this going to work lol.

My opinion and the opinion of the team can be different... Generally when I post I am speaking on behalf of a discussion that we have had with the team and the answer is generally a synopsis of that discussion we had...

TDB not cutting AC and being spam-able was the deciding vote of the team before the restructure... After the restructure of the teams the deciding vote for AceM2 is that this is going to be as close to euro as possible... However my stance on x1.2 over 1.5 is the same (mir2resource got it wrong).

As for the files I plan to provide an option to include an AC check if the server owners want it...

Sam